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@Versus I realize you weren't into NNT back then, but like the other topic this was already discussed extensively. We were given a seen significantly after the actual darkness energy had ended and there was a massive cloud of vapor, which Nakaba drew the exact same way as the vapor caused by...
...Why did you make a new thread when we were already discussing this in the other one?
Regardless, your first point is wrong. The Supreme Deity created the graces and gave them to Tarmiel and Sariel. Tarmiel and Sariel state that the Domain of God is "created by our graces," not by the...
@Peter
That would mean the Commandments never directly interacted with the Archangels, but they did. King and Gowther even withstood (albeit poorly) attacks from someone stronger than Tarmiel/Sariel, and they're weaker Commandment tiers.
@Demon Again, the topic of Ocean's AP was already discussed to death back when the original thread happened months ago. It was agreed that because Ocean is not just a hax power and that Tarmiel also uses it for direct attacks, it does not make sense for a casual application of it to be...
@Versus
Tarmiel and Sariel state literally that the dimension was "created by our Graces."
As for Galand, his CO form tanked Tarmiel's big Ark sphere with no damage, lifted it up, and slammed it back down on Sariel. Base form was able to tank a smaller Ark blast from Tarmiel's head and was...
@Versus
That white border is the sky. That's the horizon, where we can no longer see the ocean.
@Gargoyle
I remember Raven calced a Low 6-B feat as well
Like I said above, that's what a horizon is. Our view of the ocean ends because that's the horizon. If you still have problems with that issue the person to take it up with would be Raven.
@Versus
That's not an argument. Scan doesn't look like that because we're seeing from a completely...
@OP
If you check the actual blog post your horizon problem is completely addressed. We see out into the horizon from the cloud itself, which formed at the top of a tornado.
@Scaling concerns
All of this was addressed in the last thread already. Like, multiple times.
Yeah there's zero point in calcing that. Might be impossible to properly calc anyway since it doesn't even seem like it was a fireball-type of explosion