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Come on, mate.
What's with the negativity?
Someone gives an opposing view, so they're "wanking"?
Universal is more of a conventional standard for a being such as Odin and Surtur.
Also, people do realize that if he only destroyed Yggdrasil, it would be an even bigger feat, right? Yggdrasil itself is much larger than the entirety of the Norse Realms combined.
Jane's latest feat should comfortably upgrade her to Multi-Solar System level.
Surtur and Odin are both Multiverse level.
Surtur's flames were destroying the Nine Realms of Yggdrasil, Odin casually nullified the flames. Dr. Slovang already corroborated that the Norse Realms are entire...
PC Superman has been MFTL, for a while now. I'm not sure why the matter is being so discussed as if this wasn't already a thing.
Several of his feats include:
-Outracing the New God, Lightray. And Lightray is fast enough to encircle Apokolips several thousand times in a few minutes, and...
What do you mean "calm down"? I was ever cool about about the situation and reasonably debated it.
Blitzing Nova and and keeping up with The Runner are highly impressive, actually.
And if you wanted more speed feats, I'll be happy to supply them for you.
Surfer being regularly matched by those slower beings is evidently P.I.S.
"According to Marvel". Surely Marvel must've referenced that, right?
And are all the combat speed feats I listed for Surfer fodder? Obviously, not; all the beings I've shown Surfer against are MFTL.
It doesn't count as P.I.S unless the character is doing something blatantly out of their character tier, otherwise Silver Samurai would easily be Planet+ doing to being capable of handling Mjolnir for a while.
What the?.....
Why would it be disregarded as "P.I,S", exactly? Surfer temporarily matches Runner's speed. And let's not act like Surfer doing that is utterly unreasonable. Surfer has also been capable of outracing and reacting to Aeigis and Tenerbous, who are both Galactus-level Proemial Gods.
Norrin blitzing Nova.
Nova #13, Norrin again blitzes Nova.
Nova #14, Norrin does it yet again.
Norrin can also keep up and react to the Runner, who I think needs no introduction on his speed.
Ironically, the Surfer loses the above fight not because the Runner demonstrated superior...
Obviously we're not going to use Tom Breevort's word on a matter correlating to Marvel's characters. He's just an editor, the people whose words we should consider legitimately are the writers own; who have constructed the entirety of Marvel's lore. Surfer has multiple MFTL combat speed feats...
Why is Silver Surfer's combat speed idiotically tiered at "Massively Hypersonic"?
Silver Surfer has MFTL combat speed feats, moreover, Thor has MFTL speed feats, as well; so I don't see the comparison there.