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Dashio_Tessai

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    should shadow have all the abilities of shadow mind? shadow basically fused with him and accessed his powers
    Dashio_Tessai
    Dashio_Tessai
    Oh I just replied to this on that Goku matchup of yours. Check it out.
    Robo432343
    Robo432343
    Thanks

    Would Shadow liberating innumerable planes of existence scale him higher?

    I was also thinking shadow should have immortality type 7 because he became an immortal spirit after he died with the world
    Dashio_Tessai
    Dashio_Tessai
    That feat does increase his Historical Importance Index if he are to go by how this thing is earned in the first place: the more people's lives you influence with your actions, and also the more dramatic your influence is in their lives, the more Historical Importance Index "points" you acquire. Liberating innumerable planes of existence from Titan's tyranical rule surely would have a great impact on all the people of these nations who were all forced into submitting to Titan against their will.

    Going by the description of Type 7 Immortality, there are reasons why it doesn't fit the bill with Shadow's spiritual state of being in Itu's and Marcus' Plane:
    Characters who cannot die due to technically being already dead, often overlapping with other forms of immortality. This includes characters who can keep existing as spiritual entities upon dying.
    By himself he doesn't have the ability to keep existing as an immortal shadow spirit after dying with the world. It is blatantly seen in Marcus' Plane when General fights against Shadow and Bolo that both of them are named "Captured Spirit" and defeating them would "set the captured spirit [them] free", causing them to fade away and pretty much move on from this life. Depending on who you ask in the community they will either tell you that the moment they died with the world Bolo had his soul captured by Shadow's Descendant and Shadow had his soul captured by May, or that both Bolo and Shadow had their souls captured and imprisoned by just Shadow's Descendant (which is more consistent with his feats in the last chapter of the game).

    tl;dr Shadow's immortal, spiritual state of being after his death is not dependent on his own abilities, but Shadow's Descendant having captured his soul and imprisoned it, not allowing Shadow to truly die and instead cursing him to live amongst the living as a spirit up until he was defeated / "set free" by General / Descendant. Setting Shadow free also causes him to pretty much die for good considering he fades away and is never again seen after that point, so him being an immortal spirit only refers to the fact that he cannot die of old age [Type 1 Immortality] (he even fought many, many clones of Shadow's Descendant by the time he fought General, and should be comparable to Captured Spirit Bolo who waited around 2000 years to finally come face to face with General, and would've still waited more years up until General would find and set him free).
    Hey again, so i noticed the shadow energy blog you had made and in particular I noticed this
    how exactly do they exist as minds cause depending on how it works they could get ae1
    Dashio_Tessai
    Dashio_Tessai
    The blog is something I would need to go over again, but what i had in mind there is: Shadow in SF2 had his soul drained and his physical body ripped apart (due to the high AP of the SE emission he got hit by). There's not much going for him outside of his mind and will (as claimed by Titan) and this Shadow Energy "body". Shadow may end up not being actually incorporeal for the reason that it is unknown if he would die or keep existing as a mind if his Shadow Energy body somehow got erased (or absorbed as it would've been the case if he lost to Titan). There is, however, one sighting of him literally existing as a mind while separated from his Shadow Energy body, but that happens in the non-canon Underworld storyline, where Hoaxen's got a special move that can rip the minds out of people's bodies. If Shadow gets his mind ripped out after a second or so he is visibly seen going back into his body.
    Shadow Mind is quite simple really. The "mind" is a little cloud of Shadow Energy essence with sentience. What's special about this Shadow Energy is the fact that it is abstract in nature, as it is just that, an essence. I remember once on this wiki some people suggested the addition of Essence Manipulation as a power, as they claimed the essence was something more abstract than a mind or soul (and maybe even concept), or at least in the same "abstract" league as those three, but different from them. Even Google defines "essence" as something "abstract". Anyways, Shadow Mind's main problem after it broke free from the Sphere in Chapter 4 was the fact that it lacked a physical body to actually interact with and harm people. It was just that small Shadow Energy essence cloud. This is the reason why it even entered one of the companions' body to begin with - to take control over them and manifest itself using their ''physical" body. Later on during Chapter 5 Descendant faces Shadow Mind again, only this time Shadow Mind managed to drain its host's strenght over time and thus had the ability to have its own physical Shadow Energy body. If we are to go by this whole "Shadow Energy essence" thing then SF2 Shadow very easily falls into the same case as Shadow Mind, seeing as how Titan describes his Shadow Energy body as an "essence" as well. Because Shadow lacks a physical body and this SE body of his is an "essence" aka abstract he was unfazed by walking though a place that is void of space and time without literally dying.
    As for the Shadow Beasts, well, they are not in fact incorporeal as they have never been described as being made out of essence Shadow Energy. I'll have to remove them from this blog thingy. I really hope this is not too confusing, but ask me anything if you got questions.
    deonment
    deonment
    yeah they very well could qualify for ae1
    So reading a few of the new profiles you made I found a few issues with them that kinda make them harder to read imo, for example on any profile that mentions Historical Importance Index has mechanism right next to it which really isn't needed, it just clutters the page and makes it harder to read, getting rid of that mechanism and it reads much better and easier on the eyes, so in this, I want to basically tell you that 1) this needs fixing and 2)how to fix this and how to make this stuff better
    So I will be going through the new profile and talking about sticking points in them that I don't like
    So in lynx's arena profile
    His Shadow Energy attacks infect the target with terminal shadow disease
    Change the s in shadow disease to be capital
    Should Shadow Energy be used by somebody, they get an obsession with using it too much, to a harming extent
    this should probably be harmful
    any mention of lunatic psychopath,
    change it to going insane, and also get rid of the type 1 madness cause that more relies on chemicals and bio hax than this which just corrupts the mind from what I remember, and also add on memory since it makes them unable to remember what they are doing
    Incorporeality (While in Shadow Form, Lynx is nothing more than a disembodied shadow)
    Better to have this as
    Incorporeality (While in Shadow Form, Lynx is a living shadow)
    And also add on Elemental Intagibilty while you are at it
    Inorganic Physiology (Type 2) and Self-Sustenance (Types 1, 2, 3) (While in Shadow Form, Lynx lacks a biological human body)
    Remove the biological part of this
    His Shadow Energy attacks make people start to act weird
    Remove the start here
    Resistance to Biological Manipulation (Resists the side effects of Shadow Energy upon the human body such as suffering from hair loss and having a pale skin)
    Remove the a next to the pale here
    Resists being awfully afraid of the shadow beast that is the Emperor
    Remove the Awfully here
    Resists going crazy from looking at the shadow beast that is the Emperor. Resists going crazy while in Shadow Form
    Replace both crazies here with Insane
    Physics Manipulation (While in Shadow Form, Lynx can perform powerful special shadow moves that break and defy the very laws of physics and can interact with the Shadow World, which has laws of physics different from those of the real world
    Remove the special next to shadow and remove very from next to laws
    For assassin, master and the rest of Titan's bodygaurds just clump the resistances into one thing like this
    Resistance to Disease, Empathic, Fear, Mind, Poision Manpulation and, Transmutation (Can resist the Gate of Shadow's effects
    Dashio_Tessai
    Dashio_Tessai
    Most of the words here I just took word by word from the dialogues in the game. Oh and about the type 1 madness that comes from the Rescue Operation quest event in which a pipe conducting shadow energy blew up and was leaking this substance in the Dynasty. Azuma claims that this substance can cause hallucinations (if you physically come in contact with it such as touching or breathing it i assume). Some people did get these hallucinations and Azuma describes them as "lunatics" and "phychos". I decided to give it type 1 as well because the hallucinations are what make people mad, but the hallucinations themselves can only be applied on the enemy via a poison-type attack. Do you have perms that allow you to edit these pages yourself? If you do, feel free to update them whenever you see something not right about them.
    deonment
    deonment
    K that makes sense, but i dont since the pages were locked by ant, nvm was just not logged in
    Hey there, so I noticed you were making new profiles for shadow fight, that we're looking better than the ones you made before, so I have a question, are you planning on making an update to the rest of the cast with this new formating or what?
    Dashio_Tessai
    Dashio_Tessai
    At some point for whatever reason i had a crackdown on the perks if i should leave them on his SF3 self or not. I came to the barebones conclusion that "if they dont appear in his SF3 fights it means he does not have them". Later down the line I remembered how Dante from DMC doesn't use his time slow in DMC 4 or 5 even though he had it in 3 and it was never explained why he doesnt use it in gameplay in 4 and 5, but people (at least on this site) still left time slow as an available ability in his 4 and 5 keys. When I go over SF3 Shadow again ill return the perks on him for this same reason. Enchantments obviously go away since they are bound to equipment he doesn't have in 3, but perks are supposed to be talents he has learned from fighting experience and thus are bound to him. Oh and also there are way more perks out there that are currently not listed on his profile and are from previous versions of the game.
    deonment
    deonment
    NIce, and thanks for responding
    Dashio_Tessai
    Dashio_Tessai
    No problems. If you got more questions just ask whenever you want
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