Solo Leveling High 3-A

[PHANtomFELdway]

The size of it is irrelevant to whether it's a pocket reality or not..pocket reality manipulation is just the ability to manifest, travel to, and manipulate a personal world.

that’s not what eternal rest is, nor is that what pocket dimension manipulation is on this site

Also, I have yet to even mention the amount of outliers and inconsistencies you'd have if you treat Sung Jinwoo outside of the Monarch's Territory as High 3-A. That would retroactively make all of the Monarchs High 3-A (As they were able to fight with Jinwoo), the Titans High 3-A (they're equal to monarchs),

Titians are not equal to Monarchs, i don’t even know why you are bringing that up when like 2 days ago you said the titians are fodder. They got their asses beat easily by rulers.

Also (One of the statements is literally talking about monarchs when it says infinite power) regardless monarchs scale to the absolute being and the destruction of all of existence . Obviously they would scale to high 3-A currently. Until they ultimately scale higher once the cosmology is established.

and also make National Level Hunters High 3-A (They were able to fight the Monarchs). Which would trickle down to the point that you could argue everyone relevant in the verse is High 3-A. Despite the fact that none of these characters ever perform feats or have statements above tier 7-6.

The Frost Monarchs ultimate attack in the novel was turning himself into a blizzard.

I find it absurd that you still don't understand what an avatar/vessel is. The Monarchs and Rulers manifest on Earth through human avatars. If they could use their true forms without consequence, there would be no reason to rely on avatars in the first place.


The series explicitly states multiple times that they are weaker while using avatars than they were in their true forms during the war. I can recall at least three separate statements confirming this alone. Their feats and statements in their true forms are way different from what they show through their avatars.



On Earth, their best feat is shaking the entire planet. There are also statements that they could destroy the planet but deliberately refrain from doing so because Earth is being used as a trap for the Rulers.

And while in their true forms you have statements and feats like

The Absolute Being created the world, and created the Rulers to protect it and the Monarchs to destroy it. The context clearly refers to the universe,and even confirmed by Antares explicitly stating that he was born to destroy everything in existence. You also have Antares shaking dimensions with his roar.


Rulers killed the Absolute Being. And Following your own logic that characters who fight each other are on the same tier that would make the Rulers on the level of a being capable of creating multiple universes.

There are also multiple statements about Ashborn possessing the power to destroy everything the Absolute Being created. "Everything" refers to all of creation. And Antares is comparable to Ashborn at least.


Then just as supporting evidence you have 3 statements of infinite power.


All of this is from the main series alone with absolutely NOTHING from ragnorock.



Ragnarok helps even more by stating that the Monarchs were created to destroy everything the Absolute Being had created, also explicitly states that the Monarchs require human vessels because descending in their true forms would cause the universe itself to collapse under the weight of their power

Have statements stating the shadow monarch possesses the power to erase all of existence and return everything to nothingness and another statement that says Antares roar shakes dimensions (which he already does in the main series)

And that's still leaving out a bunch of supporting evidence.

I find it funny asf that you think fighting someone automatically places both characters on the same level. By that logic, getting completely overwhelmed by an opponent somehow scales you equally to them, which is obviously not how power scaling works.(which is literally what happened to like anyone that fought the monarchs)

 

[Phoenks]

Titians are not equal to Monarchs

"Each Titan possessed powers equal to that of higher-existences"

I find it absurd that you still don't understand what an avatar/vessel is. The Monarchs and Rulers manifest on Earth through human avatars. If they could use their true forms without consequence, there would be no reason to rely on avatars in the first place.


The series explicitly states multiple times that they are weaker while using avatars than they were in their true forms during the war. I can recall at least three separate statements confirming this alone. Their feats and statements in their true forms are way different from what they show through their avatars.

It literally does not matter? The avatars are what would be scaling to Jinwoo since he is able to be hurt by them. If you are saying Jinwoo is High 3-A, then the Dragon Monarch, for example, would be High 3-A even as an avatar. He was nearly killed by it.

 

[Mbpoops]

H3-A insect monarch H3-A beru

Agree fra

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

H3-A insect monarch H3-A beru

Agree fra

We only saw at the end of 218 - 220 jinwoo true form everything else is a avatar within reality. SO FEATS WITHIN true death/eternal rest shouldn't be negated by the weaker fundamental reality.

Only time we saw a full power antares is on 246 and at the beginning of igris side story everything else is weakened or an avatar.
AS per stated in the original series a monarch needs a host cause the world cannot handle a sovereign.

Which is confirmed via ragnorack by the monarchs ,as we witness apostles who are straight up foundationaly weaker then monarchs which are capable of collapsing a world and the infinite interdimensional wall. Due to their very existence.



so monarchs > gaps
monarch > walls.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

"Each Titan possessed powers equal to that of higher-existences"

Higher existences aren’t just monarchs and rulers.bruh. Spirits are for example. Dragons are,apostles are, angels are (angels aren’t rulers) unless you think the millions of angels are all equal to monarchs (which in that case monarchs would have been destroyed in the war) anyone that can remember erased timelines is a higher existence

It literally does not matter? The avatars are what would be scaling to Jinwoo since he is able to be hurt by them. If you are saying Jinwoo is High 3-A, then the Dragon Monarch, for example, would be High 3-A even as an avatar. He was nearly killed by it.

Jinwoo is quite literally suppressing his true power. After becoming the Shadow Monarch, he possesses both a spiritual body and a physical vessel. Monarchs and Rulers are fundamentally spiritual beings, yet Jinwoo deliberately operates through a human body that functions as a shell.

every battle he fights on Earth is while using that vessel, meaning his full power is never actually used (rulers say even a small amount of his power can affect the world let alone his full power). Neither Jinwoo nor the other Monarchs demonstrate High 3-A levels of power while on Earth because their abilities are inherently restricted by their physical vessels.if I was arguing that then I would not have said they were different tiers in the first place.(They can temporarily push their vessels to the maximum output they can withstand,exceeding the vessel’s capacity to hold their power, which causes it to break down overtime,however if they use even more power after that ,the vessel's soul instantly shatters and is erased before it can sustain that level of power for even a second. As the energy within a monarch is powerful enough to outright erase things from the very fabric of existence. And was even working on Beru)

It's only within the Dimensional Gap that Monarchs fight in their true spiritual forms, allowing them to draw on their real power instead of the heavily restricted output of their physical vessels, even though the Dimensional Gap itself still actively nerfs them.

Not to mention, your argument that the vessels themselves would be High 3-A doesn't make any sense. Monarchs can deliberately exceed their vessel's limits by forcing out more of their own power. If the vessel were already capable of containing their full High 3-A output, there would be no risk of it breaking in the first place.

By your logic, a vessel that's supposedly already High 3-A would still be capable of outputting even more power beyond its own limit, which effectively means it can produce "more than infinite power", which is just an obvious contradiction. The entire purpose of a vessel is that it imposes a cap on the Monarch's power, and exceeding that cap destroys it.

 

[Legacy30]

Tbh Idk if I will even do it because I tried making page for Suho but got super bored of reading it.

Stunned by the trademark sleep spell, cryin