Won't it be funny that Alastor actually tries to fight against Charlie later on and Charlie ******* wrecks him, without having to actually hurt him at all?
Considering how both of them performed against Adam, I highly doubt Charlie can fend off Alastor's attacks using her speed; she needs her true demonic form to stand a chance in the fight.
Emily didn't use her transformation to outspace the MOL Laser, Charlie also saw the thing
A mesma Emilly que foi capturada pela Vox quando não estava em sua capacidade máxima. Adam serve como um parâmetro muito melhor para comparar Alastor e Charlie; enquanto uma Charlie transformada mal conseguia reagir a um Adam casual, Alastor — em sua forma base — desviou de ataques de um Adam enfurecido a curta distância.
Y eso que importa?
In a fight? Obviously.
I'm pretty sure Viv described the Al one as a prequel comic when it came out.
Fair enough. Would be cool if someone has that statement.
yes alongside with what we accept as canon now
"Would it be funny if this thing that'll never happen happens for my agenda cuz my goat has no feats?"
How could you guess?
Or cuz he's stronger, faster, more experienced, cooler, makes watching the show more bearable unlike charlie, but sure. go with favortism
"Stronger and faster" Emily is faster than him (or comparable to him either way) and Charlie is clearly not that far away from Emily at all.
"Emily is faster" why is he lying? 1st, we have a shot of emily flying basically on par with shok.wav and W!Al so they're relative. 2nd, We accept Adam's a blitz tier above W!Al so FP!Al is aboslutely violating in speed.
Her Best feat is being equal to Adam, the guy Lucifer toys with in base. She's not as strong as he is. Also, it was while transformed and rage amped. Do you honestly think she's gonna go into that state on the fly?
A shark that can tussle with the strongest sinners and is a bio-experiment. Don't downplay Al's experience cuz you know your goat gets rocked
I'd never watch this show if it weren't for this guy so more power to you
1. Oh yeah, Adam, the same guy who got caught by Charlie while he was fighting against her?
She is holding back, she is always holding back.
A shark with no combat experience what so ever, pure power it is.
AuchI'd never watch this show if it weren't for this guy so more power to you
thought you were talking base charlie?
right, she's holding back against the guy who murdered her best friend, genocided her people for nearly a decade, and was about to hit her father, something we see made her very frightened and angry.
a shark that's relentless and extremely agile and has higher ls than him.
i mean, I've said before i onyl got into this show cuz Charlie Morningstar being mountain level puzzled me and i had the urge to know everything i could so i had to watch it eventually.
Charlie still fought more than AL did.
This is the superman thing again "holding back is a weakness" what's this, Invincible?right, she's holding back against the guy who murdered her best friend, genocided her people for nearly a decade, and was about to hit her father, something we see made her very frightened and angry.
What does the Shark have infinite stamina?
Nah your goat is a ******* monster yet they try to paint him as a good ******* person (i don't care that some of them have to be more specific than others, almost everyone will shit on Charlie 1000 times more than even say that Adam was bad).
Al at least got hits in on Adam, Charlie needs a surprise attack to do jack shit and the minute Adam decides to get at all serious, he dunks her like a basketball to the point she needs daddy to save her. Alastor got away on his own.
The point is she's got negative reason to hold back. In case you forgot, her literal first reaction to seeing Adam in heaven was to groan and go "Not this guy..." she hates his guts BEFORE he murked one of her friends and nearly killed another.
It's got better stamina than Ch*rlie!
Is not even a Mark situation where she gets beaten up to the inch of her live in every fight.
Oh yeah sure, Adam got serious (angry) and instantly cut him and leave a permanent mark to the infinitely fragile ego of this guy, not bringing any angelic weapons to the fight?why would you do that?
Charlie doesn't need statements for holding back, it is clearly that she is holding back and a lot.
Actually nop, i looked at the profiles, Shok.wav has above average stamina while Charlie has superhuman stamina.
Is that actually true? I only really see people try and paint Adam as a good person more than Alastor?
I was reffering to Adam in this "goat" label.
you can't assume a character is hold back with zero statements of such, especially when the feat in question is meant to show Charlie's true power, something that's been teased the whole series, and she had every single reason not to.
Mark has to hold back immensely to not cause environmental damage. Otherwise his ass would be leveling countries. Nobody has to worry about environmental destruction in Hazbin.
Damn, Alastor has an ego? Who woulda guessed? You say this like Charlie is a good person, and she's not, being nice is not the same as being kind.
Fixed that for you. This is the sort of thing we need statements, not assumptions for.
ooooh, we want to go by solely the profiles now? Well in that case, Base Charlie is a 9-b fodder who would get folded like this by any of the cast besides Pentious
Yeah then why didn't she kill them when she had the chance?because she had every reason (and justifiable enough) to do so.
if bad people can't be goated, your goat is far worse
and moments earlier she was shown willing to stab him with a regen negating trident.
Man stop lying, i watched the show too, he holds back because he doesn't want to actually hurt or kill people, not because of environmental destruction.
...okay now this is probably the worst take ever (or not, i have seen worse to be honest).
This feels like Sanji's situation again (but different, since Sanji is...well, you know) but trying to say that a character isn't kind, when they tell you and show they are is...a bit of a flask.
She is not even fighting against anyone and she never tries that, she outright considers using her powers in any way that stomps on others mean, she didn't fought against Vox at all, she was sorry for even attacking the exorcist.
Yeah sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooh, we want to go by solely the profiles now? Well in that case, Base Charlie is a 9-b fodder who would get folded like this by any of the cast besides Pentious
To add to this: You know the arm? Yeah, it's got four major veins that love to piss blood out when poked. That shit can kill someone in ten minutes or less.
My goat is SIMON THE ******* DIGGER.if bad people can't be goated, your goat is far worse
Fine
With that physiology and the regen?i don't think that would have killed him even if it didn't heal, because we know that getting stabbed or cut by this doesn't cause you to bleed out (Vaggie)
If you drop a building on someone, they almost always die. Seriously.
Fodderlie apologized for trying to murder someone! She's soooo kind!
My Hazbin GOAT is Husk, and he's not exactly a kind person. I also don't kid myself into thinking he's anything higher than a mid-high tier in scaling.
Fixed that for you. Niffty is not a good source here.
The difference between Fodderlie and Sanji is that Sanji legitimately has points where he shows to actually have some give a **** outside of his tendencies. It's why he half-murdered Absalom. Fodderlie's best moment is uh... forgiving Pentious, I guess.
So still, headcanon. We are not in the pilot anymore. We can say that Fodderlie isn't a god-tier.
But he never did any of that, are you serious?
But the fact that you say that she isn't kind is genuinly infuriating, you know she didn't do it with the intent of harming anyone, actually WHY DO PEOPLE IGNORE THAT VOX INTENTIONALLY WANTED TO **** UP WITH HER?
Yeah you are right, because he is a jerk (not like the bar isn't that low).
Why?just tell me why?because she told her in a very clear japenese that only the audience can understand, and she openly declares that the sinners are trash and assholes, yet she says that Charlie is kind (which is as reasonable as you can get).
You say that as if Sir Pentious didn't become the sole reason that she was able to proof that the hotel works.
No, it isn't, the fact that she is the richest ******* character in the whole show (behind Lucifer and the Seraphims) and she barely even uses her wealth or her authority in any capacity, shows that she is holding back a **** ton.
drinking water
Quick! Zoom in! Enhance!
Ah, perfection! Fodderlie Morningstar's tiering with everything except a pitchfork and being bloodlusted.
Mark's season 1 point is mountain level. And we know for a fact in that verse that when you get past being fodder, AP=DC. This is why there's a 5-C DC feat in season 4.
Hence why she, of course, didn't use literally anything else other than Vaggi's spear.
Is The Joker a good source of information? Nope. Being insane is automatically a point AGAINST me trusting what someone says, espeically when the one they're talking about proves stuff against it.
And mind you, is heaven a much better place? Oh yeah, Sir Pentious tried to kill himself. She did him no favors.
Fodderlie does actually try to use that authority, like against Valentino, the thing is she is so fodder that even Angel Dust can go against her authority. Shit, Vox went against Fodderlie's authority successfully in an afternoon.
Hey you're the one who brought the profiles up, you want to use one aspect you gotta use all of em.
Country level technically, because the meteorite was going to destroy the country.
She had a failsafe to stop the train, she was even going to use it to stop the train when Angel just gave up, everything was under control (until well, VOX).
Joker could be a good source of information actually, it just depends on the circumstances.
Leaving a big context hole over here: Sir Pentious wanted to kill himself because he wasn't around his friends, but then later on he was shown enjoying being there because Emily gave him some golden eggs.
Vox literraly went against everyone's authority, that is not a anti-feat for Charlie, is a Vox upscale.
Failsafes can fail. It's why you don't even point a gun at something you are not willing to destroy, or have your finger on the trigger. Safety can quickly become not so safe because one thing ****** up, so to avoid the risk you don't even introduce the risk into the equation.
Yeah I wonder how the girl who personifies "**** up, apologize. **** up, apologize" being kind could be wrong.
The only reason he even went for it was because him wanting to see his friends again was given the equivalent of a huge "Nevah gonna happen" by everyone he was talking to. He still wanted to see his friends post-eggs and needed to jump up and down and spend like a month convincing Sera with the threat of a ******* death ray pointed at Heaven for her to greenlight him making shit to contact Hell.
He did that for his rivalsexual lover more than he did Charlie let's be real.
Nah it's an anti-feat for everyone who's not Vox.
Not even that, i used the example of the cushion because it was all a setup for something, she instantly decided to turn it off once the whole thing didn't work.
Because she literraly is pretty much the only ******* character in the whole show who is actually good and is trying to do something good?
I still don't think he couldn't go down there, not because he wasn't allowed, but because he was unable to go there.
Now this feels like a gross oversimplification of Sir Pentious actions, he clearly did this for his friends too, not just for Cherry.
Okay let me see:
