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Welt Yang Vs Anti-Spiral (Honkai: Star Rail Vs Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)

Nighting4l33yes said:
So I looked up some things on that sandbox and other sources. I highly doubt this guy has actually natural godly regen. The scan and the justifications show one of the characters saying "This is the "super spiral universe" where thought is given form". So he was specifically talking about the properties of that specific realm. Additionally, his body was apparently obliterated and had to be remade by others 7 years later so idk how this can even count as godly regen.
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yeah no ur yapping, he regened instantly when boota destroyed him tought body, idk where did u get 7 years LMAO. he can regen himself with will and spirit alone lol
 
Maniaunavailable said:
3) his bfr is instant and can only by escpaed by having 11D stats, simon needed to absorb the cosmology himself to escape it. what his bfr basically does is a trap to confine victim's consciousness into infinite possibilities by materializing the multiverse, generated by the divergence of the time axis at the moment of perception instant to instant and replacing it with infinite universes, so welt cant escape this, even if he has 12 HDE he can't actually escape it.
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Doesn’t Welt resist this by like 4 layers
 
Maniaunavailable said:
multiple things for anti spiral: Same case as acheron: 1) Spiral dosnt have a mind body soul or substance do liley dosnt have a body, so half of the haxes here are useless. IM2 for both could make it fair ig but size alone will kill welt and half of the cosmo (as we using super gramezoma). 2) The gramezoma is equal to the super tengan toppa gurren laggan, which: Exists in and as large as galaxies/universes inside Anti-Spiral's realm, with its true size being impossible to calculate. Is created as a Quantum Body by "layering/stratificating" the multiverse. Contains a Super Spiral Universe within itself. 3) his bfr is instant and can only by escpaed by having 11D stats, simon needed to absorb the cosmology himself to escape it. what his bfr basically does is a trap to confine victim's consciousness into infinite possibilities by materializing the multiverse, generated by the divergence of the time axis at the moment of perception instant to instant and replacing it with infinite universes, so welt cant escape this, even if he has 12 HDE he can't actually escape it. So that's 3 wincons for him

so my vote is spiral
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Spiral FRA
 
welt's wincons dont involve any mind or body manip and anti spiral doesnt have resistance to transmutation

he doesnt start in gramezoma

welt has 4 layers of resistance to the multiversal labrynth
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Doesn’t Welt resist this by like 4 layers
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ig his bfr would be infinte layers, because its literally doing infinte times, but guess what I HAVENT ADDED IT YET 😭. the CRT would go like this:

BFR (Infinite Layers; Via Multiverse Labyrinth, which manipulates the quantum cosmology interpretation to trap victims' consciousness, forcing them to perceive infinite possibilities that will spawn infinite universes instant to instant. Anyone who is capable of recognizing possibilities won't be able to escape, and their Spiral Power will be)

I need time 😭
 
Mbpoops said:
welt's wincons dont involve any mind or body manip and anti spiral doesnt have resistance to transmutation

he doesnt start in gramezoma

welt has 4 layers of resistance to the multiversal labrynth
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assuption is his strongest form, and also it wouldnt make sense to have welt vs his avatar lol
 
Maniaunavailable said:
ig his bfr would be infinte layers, because its literally doing infinte times, but guess what I HAVENT ADDED IT YET 😭. the CRT would go like this:

BFR (Infinite Layers; Via Multiverse Labyrinth, which manipulates the quantum cosmology interpretation to trap victims' consciousness, forcing them to perceive infinite possibilities that will spawn infinite universes instant to instant. Anyone who is capable of recognizing possibilities won't be able to escape, and their Spiral Power will be)

I need time 😭
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can you send the cry for infinite layers and why isnt this on the profile
 
Mbpoops said:
can you send the cry for infinite layers and why isnt this on the profile
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I havent sended the CRT because am working with cipher, AS has more than 7 haxes that arent there, thats why I said don't use him for VS because has has CM2, CM3 and HGR not adressed yet
 
Character version: The strongest canon version of a character is used, that we have listed. The strongest version being defined as the one with the highest tier; if there are multiple versions with the same tier, then the most recent version.
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He probably just starts out at his strongest since it doesn't seem to specify anything such as key's or what not. I assume the "that we have listed" portion would technically include all his states on the profile since the profile does mention these states even if it doesn't give them different key's

Though please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
 
TheKingStrategist13 said:
He probably just starts out at his strongest since it doesn't seem to specify anything such as key's or what not. I assume the "that we have listed" portion would technically include all his states on the profile since the profile does mention these states even if it doesn't give them different key's

Though please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
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Look what the OP says regarding what Anti Spiral starts in btw
 
Maniaunavailable said:
BFR (Infinite Layers; Via Multiverse Labyrinth, which manipulates the quantum cosmology interpretation to trap victims' consciousness, forcing them to perceive infinite possibilities that will spawn infinite universes instant to instant. Anyone who is capable of recognizing possibilities won't be able to escape, and their Spiral Power will be)
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Not seeing any layer here.
 
Maniaunavailable said:
yeah no ur yapping, he regened instantly when boota destroyed him tought body, idk where did u get 7 years LMAO. he can regen himself with will and spirit alone lol
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is this wrong then? you didn't address how the sources straight up say it's a realm effect and thus isn't replicable outside of it.
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
it exists as justification for his own abilities as well. besides, the clip shows this happening inside his BFR dimension. not in the real world. besides, this might as well JUST be immortality type 5 and not hgr.
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nia regened his info for a week, which AS obv scales to
 
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