The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[ProfectusInfinity]

Speaking of, any DC fans, since there's a Sentry v Superboy-Prime soon... I've noticed that we have a note for the later to not scale him to Darkest Knight, etc, etc. But did it ever change, and did he showed this level of power after all? He does seem to be able to shatter reality in thw latest comics at least.

There were discussions about changing that and upgrading him on the DC thread, but I don't remember anyone addressing the note.

 

[Executor_N0]

What do you think should be done about it?

I don't know. This is more of a community problem of having to figure out a solution that many can agree with for enough time (After all, how many times has the entire cosmology been revised by mostly just swapping an interpretation that was already known, but not accepted, but then became more accepted when more members favoring it started to appear?). I don't have a horse in this race other than hoping to see less destructive communities (This goes beyond battleboarding as well).

If anything, I think it could be good to just be aware of the actual circumstances when making these decisions that sometimes overwrite the stories (Which become a necessity no matter what with franchises like this one). Sometimes I see users acting as if there's "only one truth" or "if you think differently, you're wrong", and I don't see how that is useful to anything other than creating heated debates that sometimes go too far into a destructive direction.

Having a favorite version of the cosmology and preferring to study the material that favors it is fine; this is how many religions were founded in the real world, but being aware of the material that doesn't fit could be helpful, if anything, to simply disregard it in the long run instead of having to constantly come up with explanations for why it could fit.

Like, there's a lot in Ayodele's Storm that doesn't work with the current accepted cosmology here, even on a foundational basis (How much of it is the story changing scope or Ayodele not being truthful about the direction he wanted to go from the start is beyond our knowledge as far as I know), but some of it is also present in many other comics by other authors as well, so ignoring it is a more general on-going effort (Until the point in which most of the major active books contradict past accepted parameters and I think that is when there's a big push to change the cosmology).

 

[AcidSilver]

Like, there's a lot in Ayodele's Storm that doesn't work with the current accepted cosmology here, even on a foundational basis (How much of it is the story changing scope or Ayodele not being truthful about the direction he wanted to go from the start is beyond our knowledge as far as I know)

A Marvel writer not caring about and/or respecting established cosmology and powerlevels in order to make their chosen character look super cool as they effortlessly beat everyone who poses a threat to them? I've totally never seen that before.

cough cough Starlin's Thanos cough cough Orlando's Wanda cough cough Ewing's Storm cough cough

 

[MrKerf]

Don’t disrespect Starlin’s Thanos. Starlin was at least a good writer and artist, and Thanos Saga has this cool old school vibe about it.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanos was a massively amoral, nihilistic, supremacist, hollow, boring, and casually genocidal Villain Sue power trip that systematically banalised everything spiritually good and holy into a personal absolutely ego-focused obsessive totalitarian power grab. I personally absolutely could not stand either him or his writer to a far greater degree than the other mentioned examples, who at least featured characters with some degree of ethics.