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Zenless Zone Zero Discussion Thread

that sunbringer design dawg 🥀🥀🥀
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that sunbringer design dawg 🥀🥀🥀
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looks like shit ngl
I've never seen the ball dropped harder holy shit what the ****
Never seen a character lose their aura so fast
Not you guys too......
I'm already so sick with this negativity yesterday and seeing all of yours response on her design make my enjoyment on this game got disturbed more lmao
 
Not you guys too......
I'm already so sick with this negativity yesterday and seeing all of yours response on her design make my enjoyment on this game got disturbed more lmao
for the record i'm not trying to doompost for the sake of doomposting, i think i have a lot more positive thoughts on the game overall compared to a lot of other people on social media platforms but i think the design is just straight up bad 😭

from leaks we know that this isn't technically the "original sunbringer" as she seems to have pulled a vegapunk and split herself up into a bunch of different bodies, so i don't want to cast full judgement yet giving things might end up changing in the future but i would be lying if i said that having such a hyped and built up character's design turn out like that isn't at least a little disappointing
 
Look, power to you if you like it but I think the design of every split Sunbringer is potentially a massive downgrade from the OG. Lindverne is still tentative.
 
Look, power to you if you like it but I think the design of every split Sunbringer is potentially a massive downgrade from the OG. Lindverne is still tentative.
i actually don't mind dracaene's design too much but i'm just really not feeling eldreda's at all. we'll have to see how lindverne's full design looks and we'll also have to see what they decide to end up doing when sunbringer eventually becomes playable (whether they want to make her a "trio" character with the three sunbringers or if they want to make them separate characters or if they want to make them all fuse back together into OG sunbringer, who knows)
 
i actually don't mind dracaene's design too much but i'm just really not feeling eldreda's at all. we'll have to see how lindverne's full design looks and we'll also have to see what they decide to end up doing when sunbringer eventually becomes playable (whether they want to make her a "trio" character with the three sunbringers or if they want to make them separate characters or if they want to make them all fuse back together into OG sunbringer, who knows)
Man this is making me realize how much I've been slacking off with ZZZ lately, because what the hell is a "Lindverne" and "Eldreda"...... and I rember the 3.0 trailers (+ IGN DLC) so huh

Anyway when does the Umamusume come out
 
Man this is making me realize how much I've been slacking off with ZZZ lately, because what the hell is a "Lindverne" and "Eldreda"...... and I rember the 3.0 trailers (+ IGN DLC) so huh

Anyway when does the Umamusume come out
Naw fr I’ve barely touched zzz. I keep up with leaks but I think I’ve only logged onto the game 2 times in 2 weeks.
been playing cyberpunk and dying light.
 
Naw fr I’ve barely touched zzz. I keep up with leaks but I think I’ve only logged onto the game 2 times in 2 weeks.
been playing cyberpunk and dying light.
I think I just logged in once like 2-3 weeks ago to waste like 20 pulls I had saved up for Silly and that's it😭

Atp i'm scared of using my Harumasa if i do log in again
 
i've just been doing my dailies as per usual, although 3.0 releases later tonight so i'll go through that when it comes out

i don't mind the "dry periods" in between version updates personally, it makes ZZZ feel a lot less high-maintenance than other gachas i've played so i can usually just log in, do my dailies and be out within like 10-15 minutes
 
currently working on an updated billy profile atm, any thoughts?
The speed section needs re-arranging.
To be fair, this is mostly a problem with the travel speed in the verse right now, since we don't have feats calculated for a lot of the characters. Billy would presumably somewhat scale to Nekomiya Mana, who overtook a train that was slowing down as it entered a tunnel. "Superhuman travel speed, higher with motorcycle" would probably be fine, unless someone has a better suggestion.

Masked is pretty sure we never concluded the discussion about the Sons of Calydon's motorcycles, which Billy's would presumably scale above. Masked had the idea that the motorcycles would probably scale above the surfboards in Tales of Midsummer Dreams, since Lucy says this:
We've perfectly recreated that rush of riding through the Outer Ring in this surfing experience!
It's not a perfect justification by any means, but they are presumably the same modifications they make to their motorcycles, since that's what they have experience with.

The slowest surfboard is "Superhuman, up to Subsonic" (Cruising speed of 97 km/h with a top speed of 183 km/h, or 26.9444 m/s to 50.8333 m/s)
The fastest surfboard is "Superhuman, up to Subsonic" (Cruising speed of 122 km/h with a top speed of 230 km/h, or 33.8889 m/s to 63.8889 m/s)

However, Masked would like some more input on this.
 
The speed section needs re-arranging.
To be fair, this is mostly a problem with the travel speed in the verse right now, since we don't have feats calculated for a lot of the characters. Billy would presumably somewhat scale to Nekomiya Mana, who overtook a train that was slowing down as it entered a tunnel. "Superhuman travel speed, higher with motorcycle" would probably be fine, unless someone has a better suggestion.
yeah billy kinda just has a lot of different speed values so i'm not really sure what the best way to word it all would be. he has the baseline hypersonic+ value, with faster reaction speeds thanks to VV and then just vaguely higher when transformed. and then higher travel speed with his motorcycle

Masked is pretty sure we never concluded the discussion about the Sons of Calydon's motorcycles, which Billy's would presumably scale above. Masked had the idea that the motorcycles would probably scale above the surfboards in Tales of Midsummer Dreams, since Lucy says this:

It's not a perfect justification by any means, but they are presumably the same modifications they make to their motorcycles, since that's what they have experience with.

The slowest surfboard is "Superhuman, up to Subsonic" (Cruising speed of 97 km/h with a top speed of 183 km/h, or 26.9444 m/s to 50.8333 m/s)
The fastest surfboard is "Superhuman, up to Subsonic" (Cruising speed of 122 km/h with a top speed of 230 km/h, or 33.8889 m/s to 63.8889 m/s)

However, Masked would like some more input on this.
this makes sense to me, though the SoC would probably need to have their motorcycles added as equipment in a separate CRT. idk if we'd consider them as standard or optional equipment
 
yeah billy kinda just has a lot of different speed values so i'm not really sure what the best way to word it all would be. he has the baseline hypersonic+ value, with faster reaction speeds thanks to VV and then just vaguely higher when transformed. and then higher travel speed with his motorcycle
Since you're going to be adding several abilities for Starlight Billy, especially since he's a Rupture Agent, you might just want to make Starlight Billy a new key.
It'll help with the many different speed values as well, as you wouldn't have to word it all at once, instead appending the "Billy's Starlight transformation is stated to be a comprehensive upgrade to his overall combat performance, increasing all of his physical capabilities" to the end.

There's a lot of different formatting options. Masked will leave it to you to decide which you prefer.
Superhuman travel speed, higher, up to Subsonic with motorcycle, with Hypersonic combat and reaction speed, MHS reaction speed with VV
Superhuman travel speed with Hypersonic combat and reaction speed, MHS reaction speed with VV, Superhuman, up to Subsonic travel speed with motorcycle
etc.
 
Got a few nitpicks. Why we scaling his striking strength to building level? Billy is mostly a gunslinger. 💔
i was just going off of how it's currently listed in his existing profile, but yeah that's fair. i feel like having it lower in base and having it be higher in starlight is a fair compromise, given he exchanges being a primarily ranged fighter for being more melee/CQC oriented when he transforms

i think going off of masked's suggestion and separating base billy and starlight billy as separate keys probably makes the most sense, and then i can just give them differing striking strength values that fits the respective forms better
 
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for the record i'm not trying to doompost for the sake of doomposting, i think i have a lot more positive thoughts on the game overall compared to a lot of other people on social media platforms but i think the design is just straight up bad 😭

from leaks we know that this isn't technically the "original sunbringer" as she seems to have pulled a vegapunk and split herself up into a bunch of different bodies, so i don't want to cast full judgement yet giving things might end up changing in the future but i would be lying if i said that having such a hyped and built up character's design turn out like that isn't at least a little disappointing
Tbh that's the fault on how they fully hide OG Sunbringer design in the first trailer which cause people expecting her to be designed like a badass general but I get the sentiment, at least the one here and in discord server I'm in are way more tamer compared to what I seen on other social media
Look, power to you if you like it but I think the design of every split Sunbringer is potentially a massive downgrade from the OG. Lindverne is still tentative.
i actually don't mind dracaene's design too much but i'm just really not feeling eldreda's at all. we'll have to see how lindverne's full design looks and we'll also have to see what they decide to end up doing when sunbringer eventually becomes playable (whether they want to make her a "trio" character with the three sunbringers or if they want to make them separate characters or if they want to make them all fuse back together into OG sunbringer, who knows)
If Eldreda animation really good (as it should be for a VH) then we might be able to accept it but I hope she will grew up to the folks slowly lel
Look I get it, gooner game makes gooner design, fork found in kitchen, but what was so wrong with keeping her as is
Also you accidentally answered your question smh 🗿
Tho the the VH trailer that fully hide her design like I said above also factoring it too
 
Ive been told none of you care about high tier scaling and thats fine

I just find it extremely funny that zzz is the strongest hoyo verse game
 
agenda or with real proof?
Im being so deadass when i say this.

For humans struggling through the long dark night, life is an endless torture.
Good and evil, love and hate, hope and despair... these eternally opposing concepts are like shackles wrapped around the soul, forcing humanity to tear at each other in endless cycles, never finding peace.
Yet before all concepts were born, before all oppositions formed, there existed a primordial "One."
They are the beginning of all things and the end of all things. They hold no good or evil, for They are good and evil itself. They know no joy or sorrow, for They embody every emotion.
They will erase the boundaries between "you" and "me," letting all independent consciousness flow back into the great stream of "Unity."
In Their world, without individuals, there is no selfish desire. Without conflict, there is no suffering. Without choice, there can be no mistakes. All souls shall break free from their chains, returning to the primordial, absolutely equal, eternal peace.
They have no fixed form, for They are the form of all things. They have no fixed voice, for They are the resonance of the universe.
They are the storm, and also the calm. The end, and also rebirth.
"Abandon your futile struggles, lost children."
"Your suffering ends here."
"Return to Their embrace..."
This is at worst 1-A but you could even argue H1-A+ type 2
 
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