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Low Tier Marvel Comics Speed Revisions

Iron man scales to underwater namor, but iron man’s one of the stronger upper mid tiers, nearly all of the justifications for him being upper mid tiers are either him stomping upper mid tiers or holding his own against variable herald tier characters, so I doubt anyone else scales to him
To my understanding, it depends on how much power Iron Man has.
 
It's weird compared to the original one who has a much higher value.
Anyways, I think you need to do the circle like you did in the others it doesn't actually seen like thats the sun's diameter since the circumference of the sun is still "getting bigger".
Done, though it didn't change much.
 
What currently needs to be done here? 🙏
 
What currently needs to be done here? 🙏
Impress said she'll look over the feats below to see if she agrees with them.
  1. Mar-Vell flies to space (mach 3,316.46)
  2. Carol Danvers flies to space again (mach 6,121.5)
  3. Namor and Mar-Vell fly to space (mach 6,650.5)
  4. Carol Danvers flies to space (mach 8,130.8)
  5. Super Skrull flies to space (0.0107 c)
  6. Carol Danvers flies to space with a nuke this time (0.0125 c)
  7. The Model 4 flies around the Sun (0.024 c)
  8. Mar-Vell flies around the Sun (0.061 c)
  9. Rouge flies to the Moon (0.065 c)
Basically, the debate is:

1) Whether combat speed and flight speed are comparable, Suig and I argue so based on these instances.
To quote us:
"there are numerous instances of characters in this tier reacting to their flight speed"
"Mar-Vell flying in space while dodging attacks from Super Skrull who was after him"
"I also noticed, on Emma Frost's profile, she seems to react to and intercept Black Bolt flying at her from behind in Inhumans vs X-Men #5."
"I can also bring up that while in a fight she was moving relative to objects moving at light speed fighting while the objects are still going up"
"Alright, so the Iron Man Model 4 has shown reaction and maneuverability while flying in Iron Man #120, Iron Man Annual #7, Iron Man #172, Avengers #193, and Iron Man #173. She-Hulk could also dodge the Model 4 rocketing towards her at close range in Savage She-Hulk #6.

I found two other instances of the Model 4 dodging projectiles mid-flight, but I couldn't find the issue numbers for the scans."

2) Whether there's enough consistency of a given level of speed.
 
If Spider-man ends up scaling to Mid-tiers as you are trying to suggest with this calcs then we would be back to street tiers scaling to sub relativistic which was deemed too much in previous threads. So it would only works if we assume Spider-Man is not and cannot scale with Street tiers.
I figured the last one would give consistency for peak Moon Knight scaling to Iron Man models.

Given M3X's thread, if Spider-man consistently dodges faster projectiles than everyone else, then he wouldn't be scaled to the others. I just wanted to put 'em in.
 
I figured the last one would give consistency for peak Moon Knight scaling to Iron Man models.

Given M3X's thread, if Spider-man consistently dodges faster projectiles than everyone else, then he wouldn't be scaled to the others. I just wanted to put 'em in.
The main problem is not Spider-Man's lack of feats, the problem is that if Spider-Man goes up then so do his villains and all Spider-People with him since they are consistently and narratively on his level which would then end up scaling to others like Daredevil since they share villains which would then scale to all Street tiers hero or villains and when we look at it then Paste-Pot Pete is sub relativistic scaling from Aunt May.
 
The main problem is not Spider-Man's lack of feats, the problem is that if Spider-Man goes up then so do his villains and all Spider-People with him since they are consistently and narratively on his level which would then end up scaling to others like Daredevil since they share villains which would then scale to all Street tiers hero or villains and when we look at it then Paste-Pot Pete is sub relativistic scaling from Aunt May.
Well, that's not good.

I'm still keeping the Moon Knight one, he's supposed to have variable speed anyway.
 
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