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[R1M7] Average Cover Rank Mission: Rachel Vs. Mega Man X (Paper-Colored Dream Vs. DEATH BATTLE!), Part Of FlipLaScript's Towns Of Terrors Tournament

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Rachel is in her Post-Clawed Training key
Resurrection & High-Mid regen via that is restricted for Mega Man X. This means that this match cannot be added to profiles
Anything above 7-C is restricted and starting distance is 10 meters
Speed is equalized

NOTES:
Rachel has an unquantifiable LS advantage
Rachel has the IQ advantage


Mega Man X has a 1.43x AP advantage
Mega Man X has the Stamina advantage
Mega Man X has the Range advantage
 
I would vote for Rachel because, although Mega Man X possesses a huge advantage in AP 1.43x, attack range, and unlimited stamina for kiting and draining health, the removal of his Resurrection ability has taken away his biggest lifeline. In a terrain full of obstacles like Central Park and with a starting distance of only 10 meters, with Combat IQ Gifted, Rachel is perfectly capable of withstanding damage and feinting to close the gap. Once the match turns into a close-quarters melee, Rachel's Class T Lift advantage over a Normal character is an absolute deadly trap. She will lock down X, crippling his mobility and finishing him off with piercing damage from her Twisted Horn or Lightning Spear before X can deplete her massive health bar.
 
Seems like Rachel is mainly a melee based fighter besides her one projectile which X should resist some aspects of via being a robot. What counters does she have if he tries to fly away with his Ultimate Armor or fires a black hole at her? Even with the LS advantage, I’m not sure she could easily escape something like that
 
Seems like Rachel is mainly a melee based fighter besides her one projectile which X should resist some aspects of via being a robot. What counters does she have if he tries to fly away with his Ultimate Armor or fires a black hole at her? Even with the LS advantage, I’m not sure she could easily escape something like that
First, regarding X's ascent using Ultimate Armor: Rachel can completely counter this with her Acrobatics skills (Hypermobility, Self-Momentum) combined with the tree-filled terrain of Central Park. She previously used Lightning Spear to embed herself in a wooden plank in mid-air, creating her own momentum to fly upwards, and possesses extraordinary jumping ability (like how she jumped straight onto the enlarging robot Smith). Once X's speed is Equalized, no matter how high he flies, his speed will only match Rachel's movement speed. She can completely leverage the trees, using her Horn Thrust skill, which creates an extremely strong gravitational pull, to drag X closer before he can gain a significant height advantage.

Second, regarding Pseudo-Black Hole: This is a terrifying crowd control ability, but this black hole only works by creating a physical gravitational pull to trap the target. This is where Rachel's Class T Lifting Strength advantage comes into full effect. Possessing the equivalent of millions of tons of lift, she has an incredibly strong physical root system, capable of resisting the mechanical gravitational pull of a miniature Death Battle black hole—a version with only Town Level AP, not a true cosmic black hole. Furthermore, with Enhanced Senses and ESP that can read wind direction and sense temperature, Rachel can detect the black hole's energy accumulating before X fires, allowing her to proactively dodge the affected area with somersaults or utilize her genius IQ to leverage physics and terrain for stability. If X wastes energy on the black hole without being able to lock down a Class T, Rachel will immediately launch a lightning-fast counterattack when X reveals a weakness.
 
First, regarding X's ascent using Ultimate Armor: Rachel can completely counter this with her Acrobatics skills (Hypermobility, Self-Momentum) combined with the tree-filled terrain of Central Park. She previously used Lightning Spear to embed herself in a wooden plank in mid-air, creating her own momentum to fly upwards, and possesses extraordinary jumping ability (like how she jumped straight onto the enlarging robot Smith). Once X's speed is Equalized, no matter how high he flies, his speed will only match Rachel's movement speed. She can completely leverage the trees, using her Horn Thrust skill, which creates an extremely strong gravitational pull, to drag X closer before he can gain a significant height advantage.

Second, regarding Pseudo-Black Hole: This is a terrifying crowd control ability, but this black hole only works by creating a physical gravitational pull to trap the target. This is where Rachel's Class T Lifting Strength advantage comes into full effect. Possessing the equivalent of millions of tons of lift, she has an incredibly strong physical root system, capable of resisting the mechanical gravitational pull of a miniature Death Battle black hole—a version with only Town Level AP, not a true cosmic black hole. Furthermore, with Enhanced Senses and ESP that can read wind direction and sense temperature, Rachel can detect the black hole's energy accumulating before X fires, allowing her to proactively dodge the affected area with somersaults or utilize her genius IQ to leverage physics and terrain for stability. If X wastes energy on the black hole without being able to lock down a Class T, Rachel will immediately launch a lightning-fast counterattack when X reveals a weakness.
Didn’t notice her acrobatics were that insane, but yeah that seems good enough to get the literal jump on him. Black holes in fiction are complicated, so I won’t argue too much about that but I can see Rachel escaping X’s. I’ll wait to see if there’s more arguments before voting.
 
Ngl, can Rachel even survive Gravity Well?
And iirc, DB X was Mother Elf, which is already a huge wincon
Gravity Well works by increasing the intensity of gravity on its target, pinning them to the ground. For an average person, this increased gravity would break bones. But for Rachel, who possesses Lifting Strength Class T and Superhuman physical strength, this level of gravitational pressure isn't enough to crush her. She has more than enough muscular strength to withstand, resist, and walk within that gravitational field, especially with Empowerment, as seen in her fight against the Adult Electric Centipede. Initially, she was completely overwhelmed when the centipede used one leg to pin her to the ground, but thanks to Empowerment, Rachel fought back fiercely against the centipede despite being completely overwhelmed.
Additionally, Rachel has excellent resistance to Minor Vibration and Shockwave, having withstood the aftershocks of Mister Clawed's punch that vaporized a large lake at close range without any harm.
Let's take a closer look at Mega Man X's Death Battle profile. The Mother Elf ability is located in the Resistance to: Limited Hacking section. It's only shown to help X hold out against the Star Force for a short time before he empowers himself.
Unlike the Win-con, the Mother Elf in this DB version doesn't have the ability to manipulate reality or erase data codes like the original Megaman Zero canon. The Death Battle version has severely nerfed this ability. Furthermore, Rachel didn't use any technological skills or hacking in this battle, so the Mother Elf's "Hacking Resistance" is completely useless, offering no advantage to X whatsoever.
 
From what I can tell from the convo, it seems that Rachel has better odds of winning than X. I’ll vote Rachel for now.
 
I'll also vote Rachel. Given bookman's arguments, it seems like she has a far better chance :3

Given that there are no votes for X (Crimson_cord's doesn't count as per the versus thread rules), grace starts now :]
 
So, after searching through Rachel's profile and thinking, I think X should be able to win if he is careful.

X's main strategy here is to maintain some distance between him and his opponent while also firing shots of energy, and as Rachel uses the environment to try to close the distance, X will try to keep his eyes on her to see where she is going next and avoid incoming attacks.
If Rachel managed to close the gap, X isn't absolutely as helpless as he is made out to be here. X isn't afraid of being in CQC since he has access to his Z-Saber that he can pull out at any time for an unexpected blow and can use it to parry and deflect Rachel's attacks, while also being capable of amping up his punches once he gets in close.
X could also jump away from Rachel and either blast/slash her away if she tries to grab him too with her greater LS, since X doesn't seem to be the type to tank attacks and mostly avoids them (Even if she did grab him, nothing stopping X from cutting her limbs or piercing through her to be released).

By entering his Ultimate Armor, X's injuries will heal up (Since his injuries instantly recovered after he entered it) as he tries to fly away to gain some distance from the sky to blast her from the air. Rachel could try leaping from tree to tree to get close, but it would likely involve some brief pauses between leaps, and she is still bound by gravity, which doesn't stop X from firing at her while he flies up into the air.
Even if Rachel tries to use her Horn Thrust to sucked him in (Though I am curious what its range is since it isn't really stated in the profile itself), what exactly is stopping X from using both of his X-Busters to blast her away in order to cancel it?
Plus by firing the Pseudo-Black Hole on the ground, X could just blast one of his charged-up shots of energy at her or ramming into her to knock her off her feet and send her flying for it to consume her as a main finisher, something that he does attempt before.

Overall, by maintaining some distance from her and using some of his skills to his advantage, I think X wins this mid-diff.
 
So, after searching through Rachel's profile and thinking, I think X should be able to win if he is careful.

X's main strategy here is to maintain some distance between him and his opponent while also firing shots of energy, and as Rachel uses the environment to try to close the distance, X will try to keep his eyes on her to see where she is going next and avoid incoming attacks.
If Rachel managed to close the gap, X isn't absolutely as helpless as he is made out to be here. X isn't afraid of being in CQC since he has access to his Z-Saber that he can pull out at any time for an unexpected blow and can use it to parry and deflect Rachel's attacks, while also being capable of amping up his punches once he gets in close.
X could also jump away from Rachel and either blast/slash her away if she tries to grab him too with her greater LS, since X doesn't seem to be the type to tank attacks and mostly avoids them (Even if she did grab him, nothing stopping X from cutting her limbs or piercing through her to be released).

By entering his Ultimate Armor, X's injuries will heal up (Since his injuries instantly recovered after he entered it) as he tries to fly away to gain some distance from the sky to blast her from the air. Rachel could try leaping from tree to tree to get close, but it would likely involve some brief pauses between leaps, and she is still bound by gravity, which doesn't stop X from firing at her while he flies up into the air.
Even if Rachel tries to use her Horn Thrust to sucked him in (Though I am curious what its range is since it isn't really stated in the profile itself), what exactly is stopping X from using both of his X-Busters to blast her away in order to cancel it?
Plus by firing the Pseudo-Black Hole on the ground, X could just blast one of his charged-up shots of energy at her or ramming into her to knock her off her feet and send her flying for it to consume her as a main finisher, something that he does attempt before.

Overall, by maintaining some distance from her and using some of his skills to his advantage, I think X wins this mid-diff.
You assume X thinks that if caught, X will use the Z-Saber to sever Rachel's arm and escape. But they forget how incredibly powerful Rachel's Class T lift is. Physically, once a fighter with Gifted Combat IQ like Rachel has locked down X, she won't let X swing the sword loosely. With X's Class T lift being far superior to a normal person's, Rachel will lock X's arm joint, instantly breaking X's weapon joint. X will be pinned to the ground with extreme ease, completely lacking the space or leverage to swing the Z-Saber. Furthermore, you say X activates Ultimate Armor to heal wounds and then flies into the air. However, the tournament rules clearly state: Resurrection and High-Mid Regen are prohibited for X. Activating Ultimate Armor to "immediately heal wounds" is essentially a form of Regeneration or Healing in the match. If the organizers have banned X's healing system, then this "healing upon changing armor" ability must be restricted or disabled to ensure fairness; otherwise, it would violate the "infinite punching bag" rule.
When flying into the air, Rachel's jump-following will have "pauses between tree trunks." This is true, but Rachel has Enhanced Senses, anticipating wind direction and sensing temperature. She doesn't jump blindly to become a target; she uses the dense foliage of Central Park as cover to block X's vision before delivering the decisive blow.
You might ask what prevents X from using two buster shots to cancel the Horn Thrust? The answer is Rachel's Impact Resistance and Heat Resistance (<2000°C).

X's energy projectiles possess strong thermal and impact properties. But Rachel is someone who has withstood a grenade explosion at close range that collapsed a steel staircase and endured the aftershock of a punch that vaporized a lake. Rachel's Horn Thrust is a sudden, close-range suction attack, often unleashed immediately after closing in. X's counter-attacks can deal damage, but not enough to repel or negate her suction. Many characters stronger than her, such as Seven and the mature Electric Centipede, were knocked down or critically wounded, temporarily rendering them incapacitated.

Regarding the Pseudo-Black Hole + Charge Shot combo to finish her off: This tactic sounds smooth, but it requires X to "ramming into her" to make her fall into a black hole. This is X's most fatal mistake. A character with normal lift actively charging straight into a melee warrior with Class T lift and Diamond-Shattering Horns. Although X has slightly higher AP than Rachel, Rachel only waits for X to charge in to counter, grab X tightly, and turn X into a shield to absorb her own Charge Shot, or throw X back into that fake black hole.
You've painted a scenario that's far too perfect for X by assuming X can fly, shoot, dodge, and heal freely all at once. But under the pressure of the Speed Equalized rule, the enhanced healing prohibition rule, and the vast gap in Lifting Strength between Class T and a normal person, once Rachel forces X into a CQC (Quick Control Corner) in Central Park, all of X's kiting calculations will fall apart.
 
Gravity Well works by increasing the intensity of gravity on its target, pinning them to the ground. For an average person, this increased gravity would break bones. But for Rachel, who possesses Lifting Strength Class T and Superhuman physical strength, this level of gravitational pressure isn't enough to crush her. She has more than enough muscular strength to withstand, resist, and walk within that gravitational field, especially with Empowerment, as seen in her fight against the Adult Electric Centipede. Initially, she was completely overwhelmed when the centipede used one leg to pin her to the ground, but thanks to Empowerment, Rachel fought back fiercely against the centipede despite being completely overwhelmed.
Additionally, Rachel has excellent resistance to Minor Vibration and Shockwave, having withstood the aftershocks of Mister Clawed's punch that vaporized a large lake at close range without any harm.
Let's take a closer look at Mega Man X's Death Battle profile. The Mother Elf ability is located in the Resistance to: Limited Hacking section. It's only shown to help X hold out against the Star Force for a short time before he empowers himself.
Unlike the Win-con, the Mother Elf in this DB version doesn't have the ability to manipulate reality or erase data codes like the original Megaman Zero canon. The Death Battle version has severely nerfed this ability. Furthermore, Rachel didn't use any technological skills or hacking in this battle, so the Mother Elf's "Hacking Resistance" is completely useless, offering no advantage to X whatsoever.
Nah, rewatching the BR, they straight-up say Mother Elf can erase beings from existence since she erased the Sigma Virus (just like her canon self).
And Gravity Well is basically a BFR Black Hole, sending targets to an extradimensional space.
 
Nah, rewatching the BR, they straight-up say Mother Elf can erase beings from existence since she erased the Sigma Virus (just like her canon self).
And Gravity Well is basically a BFR Black Hole, sending targets to an extradimensional space.
In DEATH BATTLE! X's profile above, the Mother Elf section only clearly states: Resistance to: Limited Hacking (X's Mother Elf was able to briefly hold off Star Force...). There is absolutely NO mention of X possessing Conceptual Erasure or Existence Erasure.

Tournament rules prohibit adding any external abilities during the tournament. If the profile doesn't state that X can use Mother Elf as an eradication weapon, then X cannot use it in this match.

You argue that Gravity Well acts like a black hole, teleporting the target to another dimension like BFR.

If your argument is correct, then X will be immediately disqualified or this ability will be completely banned. Why? Let's look back at the character submission rules at the beginning of the tournament:

"No abilities that will guarantee a win from any fight..."

BFR at a starting distance of 10m, where the opponent has no ability to teleport back, is essentially an Auto-Win Hax. The organizers (Vene and Flip) will certainly investigate and ban this move immediately to maintain balance in the tournament.

Even if it weren't banned, with Enhanced Senses, wind direction and temperature reading, and Combat IQ: Gifted, Rachel would be able to detect the gravitational energy concentration area before it activates, allowing her to somersault and dodge, rather than standing still and letting the X pull her wherever it wants.
 
In DEATH BATTLE! X's profile above, the Mother Elf section only clearly states: Resistance to: Limited Hacking (X's Mother Elf was able to briefly hold off Star Force...). There is absolutely NO mention of X possessing Conceptual Erasure or Existence Erasure.

Tournament rules prohibit adding any external abilities during the tournament. If the profile doesn't state that X can use Mother Elf as an eradication weapon, then X cannot use it in this match.

You argue that Gravity Well acts like a black hole, teleporting the target to another dimension like BFR.

If your argument is correct, then X will be immediately disqualified or this ability will be completely banned. Why? Let's look back at the character submission rules at the beginning of the tournament:

"No abilities that will guarantee a win from any fight..."

BFR at a starting distance of 10m, where the opponent has no ability to teleport back, is essentially an Auto-Win Hax. The organizers (Vene and Flip) will certainly investigate and ban this move immediately to maintain balance in the tournament.

Even if it weren't banned, with Enhanced Senses, wind direction and temperature reading, and Combat IQ: Gifted, Rachel would be able to detect the gravitational energy concentration area before it activates, allowing her to somersault and dodge, rather than standing still and letting the X pull her wherever it wants.
It's stated In the video, idk why is not in the profile
 
Nah, rewatching the BR, they straight-up say Mother Elf can erase beings from existence since she erased the Sigma Virus (just like her canon self).
And Gravity Well is basically a BFR Black Hole, sending targets to an extradimensional space.
Just letting you know; The DB! Profiles are only accounting what are shown in the fight itself and not in the analysis as noted in its verse page:
The profiles of Death Battle combatants are based on their feats in the fighting animation, not their feats in the analysis. Further more cross-scaling from different episodes is not allowed unless they've shown to be canonically connected.
 
You assume X thinks that if caught, X will use the Z-Saber to sever Rachel's arm and escape. But they forget how incredibly powerful Rachel's Class T lift is. Physically, once a fighter with Gifted Combat IQ like Rachel has locked down X, she won't let X swing the sword loosely. With X's Class T lift being far superior to a normal person's, Rachel will lock X's arm joint, instantly breaking X's weapon joint. X will be pinned to the ground with extreme ease, completely lacking the space or leverage to swing the Z-Saber.
Ok, but what's exactly stopping X from retracting his X-Buster from his free arm and either firing an point-blank energy blast or even throwing an uppercut to throw her off-balance? The attacks alone would be enough to hurt and stagger her enough to let X yanked his arm free and follow up with an attack.
Even then, this would immediately signals X to entered his Ultimate Armor form once he breaks free and enforces him into playing the distance strategy more.
Furthermore, you say X activates Ultimate Armor to heal wounds and then flies into the air. However, the tournament rules clearly state: Resurrection and High-Mid Regen are prohibited for X. Activating Ultimate Armor to "immediately heal wounds" is essentially a form of Regeneration or Healing in the match. If the organizers have banned X's healing system, then this "healing upon changing armor" ability must be restricted or disabled to ensure fairness; otherwise, it would violate the "infinite punching bag" rule.
Tbf it's more-so restrengthening himself and covering the injuries rather than just straight-up healing (X's limping arm disappearing once he transforms), in which is similar to OG's Super Adapter Form and even has OG still retaining his injuries after his Super Adapter form wore off, so X's form should functions similar to how OG's form work.
When flying into the air, Rachel's jump-following will have "pauses between tree trunks." This is true, but Rachel has Enhanced Senses, anticipating wind direction and sensing temperature. She doesn't jump blindly to become a target; she uses the dense foliage of Central Park as cover to block X's vision before delivering the decisive blow.
Valid, but X can still rapidly fire several wide‑area charged shots into the foliage to destroy some of the trees below to forced Rachel (Could also pulled this off to leave an trail of destruction from his charged up beam), or using his own mobility to reposition away from the forest and into an open area of the Central Park to get more advantage and simply wait for Rachel to leave cover.
You might ask what prevents X from using two buster shots to cancel the Horn Thrust? The answer is Rachel's Impact Resistance and Heat Resistance (<2000°C).

X's energy projectiles possess strong thermal and impact properties. But Rachel is someone who has withstood a grenade explosion at close range that collapsed a steel staircase and endured the aftershock of a punch that vaporized a lake. Rachel's Horn Thrust is a sudden, close-range suction attack, often unleashed immediately after closing in. X's counter-attacks can deal damage, but not enough to repel or negate her suction. Many characters stronger than her, such as Seven and the mature Electric Centipede, were knocked down or critically wounded, temporarily rendering them incapacitated.
I don't exactly think comparing an 9-A and 8-A feat to an 7-C charged shots (Which most likely are stronger than X's physical strength) isn't exactly... fair game? Since checking these, the aftershock's segment has Rachel "felt an invisible force propel her away" and the grenade's explosion segment with "sending those nearby flying", which involves her since she was the one to directly throw it, two of which sorta contrasts against her "Impact Resistance".
The examples you showed only shows what happens when the move’s power lands and not proving itself to be unstoppable charge that is able to power through any attacks, meaning each hit will still cause some significant damage to her.
Rachel's durability is still within the same range as X’s charged shots with them having stronger AP than hers (Rachel's 8.3 VS X's 11.8), a direct double‑buster blast, an amped up blow from him or several slashes from his Z-Saber alone would be still enough to violently throw her off balance, thus ruining any lunge or suction she’s attempting.
Regarding the Pseudo-Black Hole + Charge Shot combo to finish her off: This tactic sounds smooth, but it requires X to "ramming into her" to make her fall into a black hole. This is X's most fatal mistake. A character with normal lift actively charging straight into a melee warrior with Class T lift and Diamond-Shattering Horns. Although X has slightly higher AP than Rachel, Rachel only waits for X to charge in to counter, grab X tightly, and turn X into a shield to absorb her own Charge Shot, or throw X back into that fake black hole.
I see... and what makes you assume X wouldn't take the more safer route by using his range of the charged-up shots to blast her directly into it (Especially when X can retracted his X-Buster from both of his arms to do it)? The ramming thing simply hinges on X voluntarily entering melee, which he has no reason to do and especially won't try to do again once he breaks free out of Rachel's grip.
 
Ok, but what's exactly stopping X from retracting his X-Buster from his free arm and either firing an point-blank energy blast or even throwing an uppercut to throw her off-balance? The attacks alone would be enough to hurt and stagger her enough to let X yanked his arm free and follow up with an attack.
Even then, this would immediately signals X to entered his Ultimate Armor form once he breaks free and enforces him into playing the distance strategy more.

Tbf it's more-so restrengthening himself and covering the injuries rather than just straight-up healing (X's limping arm disappearing once he transforms), in which is similar to OG's Super Adapter Form and even has OG still retaining his injuries after his Super Adapter form wore off, so X's form should functions similar to how OG's form work.

Valid, but X can still rapidly fire several wide‑area charged shots into the foliage to destroy some of the trees below to forced Rachel (Could also pulled this off to leave an trail of destruction from his charged up beam), or using his own mobility to reposition away from the forest and into an open area of the Central Park to get more advantage and simply wait for Rachel to leave cover.

I don't exactly think comparing an 9-A and 8-A feat to an 7-C charged shots (Which most likely are stronger than X's physical strength) isn't exactly... fair game? Since checking these, the aftershock's segment has Rachel "felt an invisible force propel her away" and the grenade's explosion segment with "sending those nearby flying", which involves her since she was the one to directly throw it, two of which sorta contrasts against her "Impact Resistance".
The examples you showed only shows what happens when the move’s power lands and not proving itself to be unstoppable charge that is able to power through any attacks, meaning each hit will still cause some significant damage to her.
Rachel's durability is still within the same range as X’s charged shots with them having stronger AP than hers (Rachel's 8.3 VS X's 11.8), a direct double‑buster blast, an amped up blow from him or several slashes from his Z-Saber alone would be still enough to violently throw her off balance, thus ruining any lunge or suction she’s attempting.

I see... and what makes you assume X wouldn't take the more safer route by using his range of the charged-up shots to blast her directly into it (Especially when X can retracted his X-Buster from both of his arms to do it)? The ramming thing simply hinges on X voluntarily entering melee, which he has no reason to do and especially won't try to do again once he breaks free out of Rachel's grip.
You said that X could use his other hand to transform into a Buster for close-range fire or a hook punch to stun Rachel, thereby freeing his hand.

But in reality, the difference between Class T and Average Human isn't just about strength. When a character with Gifted Combat IQ and Class T lifting power like Rachel actively closes in on a target, she won't just grab X's wrist. Under immense pressure, X's inorganic body might not be crushed, but X absolutely has no space or range of motion to retract his arm for a hook punch or raise his Buster to fire back. X's muscle strength is zero compared to Rachel's. To escape, X has no choice but to self-destruct or die.

I accept your explanation that Ultimate Armor works like Super Adaptor, only covering the body to conceal wounds and not restoring health. But to activate this form, X must first escape. As analyzed in point 1, X has no way to escape Rachel's Class T lock on his own.
Regarding X flying into the air and unleashing a barrage of bullets to force Rachel into an open area, this tactic is reasonable, but remember that Speed has been Equalized. X's charge speed and reload speed are perfectly synchronized with Rachel's movement speed. Rachel won't stand still in the forest waiting for X to flatten her. With her Acrobatics (All-Terrain Mobility) and Enhanced Senses abilities, Rachel will actively move continuously, using fallen trees and dust from X's explosions as visual shields to change positions and continue closing in on X from blind spots.
It's true that X has a slight advantage in raw AP, but the 1.43x difference in VSBW is extremely small, less than double, and can be easily offset by other factors. These include:
1. Piercing Damage: Rachel's Horn Charge and Thunder Spear have the Piercing attribute. In the VSBW system, penetrating damage always concentrates force on a small point, allowing it to bypass some of the opponent's Durability. X's 11.8 Megaton armor can be completely penetrated by Rachel's 8.3 Megaton Piercing attack.

2. Horn Thrust Mechanism: This attack is not a normal charge that X can intercept. The profile clearly states that it pulls the opponent in with an extremely strong force at close range after getting close. Once X is pulled in and loses gravity balance, it's impossible for X to raise both hands to accurately fire a Buster shot to cancel the attack.

It's said that X wouldn't be foolish enough to engage in close combat anymore, but would instead fire bullets to push Rachel into the black hole from a distance. This sounds good, but once again, Rachel has Lifting Strength Class T. The physical gravitational pull of the black hole isn't enough to dislodge her. Rachel can plant her Lightning Spear into the ground as a solid physical anchor, completely immune to being blown away or pulled into a black hole by gravity, and if that happens, she can use leverage to dash towards X even faster.
X has a 1.43x AP advantage in range, but Rachel possesses Class T Lift, infinite compared to a normal person, Armor-resistant Penetrating Damage, and ESP for dodging in the Equalized Speed meta. If Rachel successfully gets close just once, which is guaranteed with Combat IQ: Gifted and the Central Park terrain, X will be completely locked down and never have a chance to recover.
 
I'm not seeing what X is supposed to do to win here.

Like, taking away his resurrection basically removes his entire survivability, and his track record is not nearly as impressive as Rachels, and that's very problematic when you need to heavily rely on tactics to win. He probably won't even know how to escape if Rachel grabs him, either. He's a sword-fighter, not a martial artist. The most we ever see him do in that regard is throw an uppercut, like, once?

And conversely, it doesn't seem like Rachel's stupid enough to let him pull out a concealed weapon in that scenario, or let him get distance if he tries to do that either.

This is giving off stomp vibes, tbh, because it looks to me like X is outclassed in pretty much every way.
 
I'm not seeing what X is supposed to do to win here.

Like, taking away his resurrection basically removes his entire survivability, and his track record is not nearly as impressive as Rachels, and that's very problematic when you need to heavily rely on tactics to win. He probably won't even know how to escape if Rachel grabs him, either. He's a sword-fighter, not a martial artist. The most we ever see him do in that regard is throw an uppercut, like, once?

And conversely, it doesn't seem like Rachel's stupid enough to let him pull out a concealed weapon in that scenario, or let him get distance if he tries to do that either.

This is giving off stomp vibes, tbh, because it looks to me like X is outclassed in pretty much every way.
So... who will you vote for?
 
I'm not seeing what X is supposed to do to win here.

Like, taking away his resurrection basically removes his entire survivability, and his track record is not nearly as impressive as Rachels, and that's very problematic when you need to heavily rely on tactics to win. He probably won't even know how to escape if Rachel grabs him, either. He's a sword-fighter, not a martial artist. The most we ever see him do in that regard is throw an uppercut, like, once?

And conversely, it doesn't seem like Rachel's stupid enough to let him pull out a concealed weapon in that scenario, or let him get distance if he tries to do that either.

This is giving off stomp vibes, tbh, because it looks to me like X is outclassed in pretty much every way.

In that case, Rachel wins this round.
 
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