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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

Characters I plan to update/upgrade whenever that Low 1-A/1-A business is concluded:
  • Thanos (upgraded to Low 1-A/1-A. Also just a very barebones profile)
  • Sentry (upgraded to Low 1-A/1-A)
  • Adam Warlock (idk yet)
  • Silver Surfer (idk but maybe upgrade)
  • Loki (Low 1-A/1-A with magic)
  • Vision (whatever the 5-B replacement tier ends up being. His page just needs improvements in general too)
  • Wonder Man (idk yet)
  • Ultron (he needs lots more keys. Maybe Low 1-A/1-A? Idk yet)
  • Iron Man (basically all his classic armors should be 5-B, or whatever that tier ends up being)
  • Count Nefaria
 
Characters I plan to update/upgrade whenever that Low 1-A/1-A business is concluded:
  • Vision (whatever the 5-B replacement tier ends up being. His page just needs improvements in general too)
Shouldn't Vision also be High 1-A for defeating Nyx with House of Ideas
 
Should The Maker get an Earth-616 key, like Miles has? IIRC he has fought 616 Reed
It is only up to the character, but i think that reed should have 2 keys in his earth 1610 like: Mr Fantastic | The Maker and other keys i think
 
Characters I plan to update/upgrade whenever that Low 1-A/1-A business is concluded:
  • Thanos (upgraded to Low 1-A/1-A. Also just a very barebones profile)
  • Sentry (upgraded to Low 1-A/1-A)
  • Adam Warlock (idk yet)
  • Silver Surfer (idk but maybe upgrade)
  • Loki (Low 1-A/1-A with magic)
  • Vision (whatever the 5-B replacement tier ends up being. His page just needs improvements in general too)
  • Wonder Man (idk yet)
  • Ultron (he needs lots more keys. Maybe Low 1-A/1-A? Idk yet)
  • Iron Man (basically all his classic armors should be 5-B, or whatever that tier ends up being)
  • Count Nefaria
Oh I've also being doing Invaders stuff, but I wanted to wait until the 5-B downgrade finishes since most of them will be that tier. Does anyone know when that will be?
 
Is anybody reading Infernal Hulk? I saw a post about the newest issue that I was hoping to get something clarified on, but since it just came out I wasn't sure if I should spoil it or not.
 
Did anyboody else read Ultimates issue 24 today? I liked it. It seems like the writer and myself view the Hulk in similar ways. At heart the concept of the Hulk is a force of destruction empowered by hatred who created weapons of genocide for a living. I see him far more as a villain than as some kind of heroic role model. 🙏
 
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Did anyboody else read Ultimates issue 24 today? I liked it. It seems like the writer and myself view the Hulk in similar ways. At heart the concept of the Hulk is a force of destruction empowered by hatred who created weapons of genocide for a living. I see him far more as a villain than as some kind of heroic role model. 🙏
The wrong way to look at Hulk
 
I see him far more as a villain than as some kind of heroic role model. 🙏
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Did anyboody else read Ultimates issue 24 today? I liked it. It seems like the writer and myself view the Hulk in similar ways. At heart the concept of the Hulk is a force of destruction empowered by hatred who created weapons of genocide for a living. I see him far more as a villain than as some kind of heroic role model. 🙏
Ant, that is a wrong way to look at 616 Hulk. If you read about him, you don't need to be told that he is one of those guy that should have every reason to turn evil but he is trying his best not to but still he get taken as a monster even as Banner.

Do you know that Hulk loves animals and nature?
 
Ant, that is a wrong way to look at 616 Hulk. If you read about him, you don't need to be told that he is one of those guy that should have every reason to turn evil but he is trying his best not to but still he get taken as a monster even as Banner.

Do you know that Hulk loves animals and nature?
General Ross's propaganda already got Ant, I don't think you'll be able to change his mind
 
At heart the concept of the Hulk is a force of destruction empowered by hatred who created weapons of genocide for a living.
Hulk is a force of destruction, there’s no denying that, but he is not only a force of destruction and unlike every other force of destruction he has gone out of his way to Never kill anyone during that destruction, he’s empowered by hatred but he chooses to be different from that hatred even when nearly every other being empowered by that hatred has chosen evil, even when even every single persona other than savage/childlike hulk has chosen evil at one point or another, even when 99% of the beings he meets immediately assume he’s evil, hulk has still chosen to be a hero, that is what hulk’s core philosophy is and always has been and always will be
 
Do you know that Hulk loves animals and nature?
The childlike Hulk, yes. He is basically the only truly nice version along with the merged/"professor" Hulk, the way I see it. 🙏
 
Again, Banner developed more efficient weapons of genocide for a living. And the Green Scar was a ruthless barbarian who almost destroyed the populated city of New York, forced much nicer heroic people to fight in gladiatorial games, and was about to execute them. 🙏
 
Again, Banner developed more efficient weapons of genocide for a living.
Problems of being created in the 60s, many things happened between that and now and many things have changed
And the Green Scar was a ruthless barbarian
that's really not him, you really see it in Planet Hulk how he brings peace to the whole planet, helping and listening, even sparing the ones who tried to overthrow him and when his two friends fought over that, he instead forced them to fight him and let them pierce him so that they may become brothers in arms and force them to make peace, he helped to rebuild the planet, until the bomb exploded
who almost destroyed the populated city of New York
making sure that no civilian or hero died
forced much nicer heroic people to fight in gladiatorial games
not that heroic since they were the Illuminati and also decided to throw him in space, he also thought they made the bomb explode, so he was punishing them for what they did to him
and was about to execute them.
this is just false, he literally says that he wasn't there to kill anyone
 
Did anyboody else read Ultimates issue 24 today? I liked it. It seems like the writer and myself view the Hulk in similar ways. At heart the concept of the Hulk is a force of destruction empowered by hatred who created weapons of genocide for a living. I see him far more as a villain than as some kind of heroic role model. 🙏
Not really, my dude.

In the "Crossroads Saga", Hulk is represented as an incarnation of Bruce Banner's pent-up sadness and misery yet is more than willing to help out those who befriend him.

Even Doctor Doom pointed out that Bruce Banner is the more morally flawed one, Hulk is just the scapegoat who absorbs all of Bruce's self-loathing.

It's called nuance.
 
Not an actual link, but I know what you are referencing and lets be real - that's a giant cop out, he absolutely killed people over his career.
It seems like the writer and myself view the Hulk in similar ways. At heart the concept of the Hulk is a force of destruction empowered by hatred who created weapons of genocide for a living. I see him far more as a villain than as some kind of heroic role model. 🙏
Over the years Hulk was more often than not a gentle giant, with only his more modern stuff being dark. I suppose you can see him as you'd see Godzilla (a symbol of nuclear rampaging monster), but idk.

Instead of putting onto Hulk hero or villain labels we should collectively discuss why his Immortal and Infernal comics suck.
 
Not an actual link, but I know what you are referencing and lets be real - that's a giant cop out, he absolutely killed people over his career.
I meant while he’s destroying stuff, the scans I linked to(idk why my Link doesn’t work) were specifically saying hulk has destroyed entire cities without killing a single person, you don’t destroy a city without killing anyone unless you’re going out of your way to not kill anyone
 
Instead of putting onto Hulk hero or villain labels we should collectively discuss why his Immortal and Infernal comics suck.
Well, Al Ewing is usually a very good writer, but I definitely did not enjoy Immortal Hulk, and I actively dislike Infernal Hulk. 🙏
 
Problems of being created in the 60s, many things happened between that and now and many things have changed
Well, it is still a core part of his identity.
that's really not him, you really see it in Planet Hulk how he brings peace to the whole planet, helping and listening, even sparing the ones who tried to overthrow him and when his two friends fought over that, he instead forced them to fight him and let them pierce him so that they may become brothers in arms and force them to make peace, he helped to rebuild the planet, until the bomb exploded
That is not really how I read that storyline.
making sure that no civilian or hero died
Even if we accept that strange premise as correct, to almost quote the voice of the author in World War Hulk: "So that makes it okay to destroy millions of people's homes?"
not that heroic since they were the Illuminati and also decided to throw him in space, he also thought they made the bomb explode, so he was punishing them for what they did to him
Honestly, what were they supposed to do? The Hulk has been an unchecked force of destruction for a long time, and they tried to send him to a friendly and beautiful planet, which is better than he deserves. Their plans just didn't work out. And again, even if they had actually done what the Hulk thought they did, why did he feel the need to mostly involve innocent people?
this is just false, he literally says that he wasn't there to kill anyone
As far as I recall, he was about to give a thumbs down in traditional colloseum style, to force the heroes to kill each other, and was just interrupted. 🙏
 
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