Reinhard vs Acheron

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Question: since crossovers are valid, can we use Isekai quartet for scaling too?

Also y'all are cooked

Yeah good luck trying to get Isekai Quartet accepted for all Isekai present in that anime

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Immeasurable speed feat?

Time for a new crt..

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Brother trying to get Isekai Quartet canon just to give Reinhard Divine Protection of Tug of War

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Brother trying to get Isekai Quartet canon just to give Reinhard Divine Protection of Tug of War

It has a few things which are relevant to the profiles, not just for Reinhard but for other people too


The AP chain is all over the place though

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

It has a few things which are relevant to the profiles, not just for Reinhard but for other people too

You mean Subaru flat out resisting timestop

 

[VortechsTG]

Forgot Isekai Quartet actually is canon now for some God forsaken reason I think it's only for Re:Zero though. Abilities Re:Zero characters show like the dp of tug of war genuinely probably should be added, but not any scaling to the other verses. Anyway that's something for another thread.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

You mean Subaru flat out resisting timestop

Subaru does have limited time stop resistance already

 

[Robo432343]

Attack Potency: Outerverse level (Reinhard is repeatedly acknowledged as the strongest character in the verse by everyone, despite Subaru and others being aware of Od Laguna. In an alternate route Subaru with tens of thousand of tries couldn't defeat Reinhard despite coming up with every single plan he could think of, including getting help from the strongest characters, Reinhard just defeated them all. Is stronger than Satella, whose power of love is described as a destructive force, unimaginably strong, conceptual in nature and transcends all possible mathematical dimensions. He is stronger than and can defeat Regulus who with his authority is stated to not bound by all concepts and only beings that are unbound by all concepts can fight him. Stronger than Od Laguna who painted the whole cosmology, which is this large, on his cradle, an endless, blank, colourless, shapeless/formless canvas where space and time do not exist and who structured the cosmology through and is the source of the cosmic dual forces, yin and yang, sun and moon, etc.), higher with Reid (The Dragon Sword Reid is the mightiest and strongest of all the legendary swords, putting it above the Dream Sword and Fiend Sword, the former of which can destroy dreams, both literal and tangible things related to non-literal ones, and the latter which can destroy the point of anything's concept, as everything, even concepts have a "point" or "core" that defines its essence. In the Wrath IF, he broke both the Dream and Fiend Swords)

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Satella's love>>>>your favorite verse

 

[Epiccheev]

Reinhard outskills the time and then outskills the dimension then use his skill energy beam to vaporize

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Reinhard outskills the time and then outskills the dimension then use his skill energy beam to vaporize

The fact that the last part is true


Edit: his AoE nuke comes from skill, also calc is short for calculator, just to let you guys know

 

[Voidnether]

Yumiella victim

 

[Epiccheev]

Yumiella getting 1-A is a big surprise to me, since the few chapters of the manga seem so grounded at first

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Forgot Isekai Quartet actually is canon now for some God forsaken reason I think it's only for Re:Zero though. Abilities Re:Zero characters show like the dp of tug of war genuinely probably should be added, but not any scaling to the other verses. Anyway that's something for another thread.

Whats the arguments for canon Isekai Quartet besides Hoshin appearing

 

[Epiccheev]

Tappei deciding to release important lore through tertiary/quaternary media

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Tappei deciding to release important lore through tertiary/quaternary media

Who releases lore relevant stuff in a crossover series...

It gets a bit ridiculous, like the time he wrote a story on a napkin.....

If you read the main story alone you are missing out on a lot. Still makes me wonder what the plan is for arc 7-8 in the anime.

 

[Doggo]

Hi guys I just woke u-HOLLLYYY

Sword Saint: @Nonynho @Mbpoops @VortechsTG @SatellaTheWoE
Self-Annihilator: @Harith0cell @CastoriceTheFifth @Voidnether


Current vote tally

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Hi guys I just woke u-HOLLLYYY

Sword Saint: @Nonynho @Mbpoops @VortechsTG @SatellaTheWoE
Self-Annihilator: @Harith0cell @CastoriceTheFifth @Voidnether


Current vote tally

It'd be @Robo432343 for Acheron said they said they're voting the same as me

Also Scoops said the match is a stomp

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Hi guys I just woke u-HOLLLYYY

Sword Saint: @Nonynho @Mbpoops @VortechsTG @SatellaTheWoE
Self-Annihilator: @Harith0cell @CastoriceTheFifth @Voidnether


Current vote tally

@Crimsonobu voted for Reinhard iirc

 

[Mbpoops]

if verse equalization isnt applicable then acheron stomps

voting acheron again

 

[Doggo]

voting acheron again

counted

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

@Mbpoops btw if you’re saying Fate’s Magical Energy is comparable to Imaginary Energy then I don’t think it’s possible to verse equalize at all because nasu supporters on the site made it impossible to equalize any energy system with their power system.

It’s accepted that Imaginary Energy is comparable to Magical Energy in order to replace it and is capable of creating mystery/miracles due to @Mbpoops thread

Based on this, it appears to be a haxstomp for Acheron and thus votes shouldn't be counted. Any reason for me to not close this?

 

[Doggo]

Based on this, it appears to be a haxstomp for Acheron and thus votes shouldn't be counted. Any reason for me to not close this?

If everyone thinks its a stomp sure

I would wait for more input

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Based on this, it appears to be a haxstomp for Acheron and thus votes shouldn't be counted. Any reason for me to not close this?

We're fine with closing it. me and @Mbpoops

 

[Mbpoops]

Any reason for me to not close this?

for funny close

 

[Doggo]

Thats 2 Honkai supporters

How aboutt Re Zero folks?

 

[Mbpoops]

We're fine with closing it. me and @Mbpoops

dont make decisions for me

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Thats 2 Honkai supporters

How aboutt Re Zero folks?

As a Re: Zero supporter as well I'm fine with it

dont make decisions for me

You declared it stomp innit?

 

[Doggo]

As a Re: Zero supporter as well I'm fine with it

Then it would be preferable if with had another supporter as well

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Then it would be preferable if with had another supporter as well

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Bro is gonna do anything in his power to make sure acheron doesn't get a loss on her page

I am fine with it being considered a stomp if you could reiterate the reason + scan/proof

These are the following conditions

1. Reinhard absolutely for sure cannot survive standing next to her
2. She would activate her instant kill passive in front of tons of people instantly killing them
3. She would not engage in sword combat
4. Reinhard can't kill her (it's a stomp if this condition is met)

If any/all of these conditions are not met then this becomes a valid match

 

[Yanina92]

Bro is gonna do anything in his power to make sure acheron doesn't get a loss on her page

I am fine with it being considered a stomp if you could reiterate the reason + scan/proof

These are the following conditions

1. Reinhard absolutely for sure cannot survive standing next to her
2. She would activate her instant kill passive in front of tons of people instantly killing them
3. She would not engage in sword combat
4. Reinhard can't kill her

If any of these conditions are not met then this becomes a valid match

yeah and stomps cant be added so it doesnt count as victory

 

[Doggo]

yeah and stomps cant be added so it doesnt count as victory

It aint a stomp if both sides have valid wincons

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

1. Reinhard absolutely for sure cannot survive standing next to her

She insta timestops which he can't resist due to verse equalization not being applicable + BFR being instant death

2. She would activate her instant kill passive in front of tons of people instantly killing them

She can selectively target who to affect (the video she wasn't aiming towards the citizens, rather she was aiming at a god's power that spanned the entire 2 million light years).

3. She would not engage in sword combat

Acheron starts off transformed. Transformed Acheron doesn't engage in sword combat and immediately goes for hax and BFR


(Time slowing to a halt here too)

4. Reinhard can't kill her

Literally cannot pull off a win con because of the prior 3

 

[MasterOwOgay]

I stepped away for tea and breakfast for merely two hours, and somehow there are already six additional pages.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Btw this is the only time Acheron while transformed is shown going for close combat and its when she already auto BFRs you

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Alright who stomps who so I can make my vote

 

[Doggo]

Alright who stomps who so I can make my vote

Summary:

If you think Reinhard's BFR and time stop resistance are fraudulent, then he dies

If not, Reinhard's skill slops and dura negs

 

[VortechsTG]

Thats 2 Honkai supporters

How aboutt Re Zero folks?

I'm not really sure where exactly it was accepted that HSR characters get Type Moon smurf hax. I just kept seeing it said it was accepted a while ago. It was never shown where or why it isn't on their profiles now. I'm not saying it's wrong. I just feel like we actually need this explained to make a judgement.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Summary:

If you think Reinhard's BFR and time stop resistance are fraudulent, then he dies

If not, Reinhard's skill slops and dura negs

So knowing Reinhard, he probably has like 100+ Unused Off screen blessings that resists these abilities on conceptual levels, and the skill slop in Re Zero is real. Archeon FRA (On a real note, Archeon just haxes her way through this)