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Reinhard vs Acheron

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tbh i was wondering whether he'd have the power to ask for blessings on the spot like he does in his verse


1. He can get greater resistances to things he already resists, such as him getting the dp of fireplay and waterplay when his normal dps werent enough to handle it, then sunburn and explosion for things to further become more resistant to related/adjacent abilities. We see this happen numerous times

2. If its within the control of Od Laguna then it should be able to create counters to it, time stop and bfr are yin magic and thus would fall into that category

3. DP of adaptation have to be added to his profile and that allows him to...oh i am late
 
If you see a DP resistance that says he resists Yin Magic then it’s irrelevant here.
castorice what 😭
It would be absurd to say that he resists hax abilities created through magic, only to then argue that his resistance applies exclusively to magic itself. By that logic, virtually every verse with hax resistance would become restricted to its own internal power system.

For example, Jujutsu sorcerers supposedly wouldn’t resist curse based hax if an identical ability came from magic instead of cursed energy, or Naruto characters suddenly wouldn’t resist basic illusion/manipulation abilities simply because another verse uses a different mechanism instead of chakra for the same effect.

This is genuinely one of the worst arguments made on the wiki because, it completely breaks the entire versus matchup system lol
 
Verse equalization applies to hax interactions as well. What matters is whether the character can resist the effect itself, not whether the ability originates from magic, chakra, cursed energy, mana, or some other power source.

The source only becomes relevant if the haxes are completely different, which is not the case here.
 
Divine Protection of Initiative: His first attack on an opponent always lands, and he can never fall victim to surprise attacks.
This isn't absolute. Divine protections like that are limited by him and the ones he fights. He won't just hit someone at MFTL+ speed for example.

If Acheron reaches that speed, it won't matter. Same if she has a method of escaping in her normal form.
He resist time stop
He resists magic.

Reinhard doesn't have an actual resistance against "Time Stop" itself.
If its within the control of Od Laguna then it should be able to create counters to it, time stop and bfr are yin magic and thus would fall into that category
This is just wrong. That's not how it works at all.

Reinhard resists Magic. If someone uses Time Stop without using Magic, it'd work. Same for BFR
 
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Verse equalization applies to hax interactions as well. What matters is whether the character can resist the effect itself, not whether the ability originates from magic, chakra, cursed energy, mana, or some other power source.

The source only becomes relevant if the haxes are completely different, which is not the case here.
Except, It's actually stated that what Reinhard resist is Magic.

For example, if it was actually stated to be resistance to time stop itself, this could apply. But Reinhard has no such thing.
 
@SatellaTheWoE The issue is with this specific Divine protection is that it's stated explicitly to be against "magic", and the hax included in the magic are only resisted due to that factor... (To make matters worse, it is a limited resisatnce by being an 80%)...
 
I meant if he only resists the magic not the actual hax itself
Why would this require a thread? It's a very clear statement and applied accurately in the profiles.

"Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification causes the user to nullify 80% of yin magic."

Does this look like "He doesn't resist this magic but things it can do"?
 
Omw to make a CRT to remove every resistance derived from Devil Fruits, supernatural willpower in OPM, cursed energy in JJK, Sharingan/chakra in Naruto, ki in DB, and skills in Tensura.

The amount of profiles that are about to get obliterated is gonna be insane 🔥
 
Omw to make a CRT to remove every resistance derived from Devil Fruits, supernatural willpower in OPM, cursed energy in JJK, Sharingan/chakra in Naruto, ki in DB, and skills in Tensura.

The amount of profiles that are about to get obliterated is gonna be insane 🔥
I don't even know how you can compare them.

You don't resist against others' willpower in OPM, you don't resist against others' curse energies in JJK, you don't resist against others' chakras in Naruto.

This isn't the case for Reinhard at all, who explicitly resist "Magic" .
"Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification causes the user to nullify 80% of yin magic."

Does this look like "He doesn't resist this magic but things it can do"?
The comparison is just wrong.
 
Omw to make a CRT to remove every resistance derived from Devil Fruits, supernatural willpower in OPM, cursed energy in JJK, Sharingan/chakra in Naruto, ki in DB, and skills in Tensura.

The amount of profiles that are about to get obliterated is gonna be insane 🔥
I think it would be best if you can differentiate Magic and Energy first
 
every resistance derived from Devil Fruits, supernatural willpower in OPM, cursed energy in JJK, Sharingan/chakra in Naruto, ki in DB, and skills
If it's a resistance to Devil Fruits, Willpower, Curses, Chakra, Ki, and Skills, then those are the only thing the resistance would help against. Something described as "reduces the power of Devil Fruits against them by 50%" would not help against a magical fireball at all, for example.
 
Why would this require a thread? It's a very clear statement and applied accurately in the profiles.

"Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification causes the user to nullify 80% of yin magic."

Does this look like "He doesn't resist this magic but things it can do"?
cuz you supporters dont clearly agree on the same thing neither is the profile clear about it cuz that line can be interpreted differently by other people.
 
Holy ****, 5 pages in 4 hours?

From what I’ve briefly glossed over, there appears to be an ongoing discussion that is derailing the entire thread. Please keep the focus on what is currently listed on the profile. If you disagree with any of it, then make a CRT instead.

Do not derail versus threads over changes that are not even gonna be applied within the thread itself.

I already addressed this in the previous thread as well, but this behavior needs to stop. I am continuing to see the same repeat offenders involved.
 
cuz you supporters dont clearly agree on the same thing neither is the profile clear about it cuz that line can be interpreted differently by other people.
I made the complete revamp for Reinhard, and I can tell you that anyone arguing that something I described as "cuts the effect of XYZ Magic" is not actually a magic-type resistance, is wrong. I even clarified in Notable Attacks/Techniques that Reinhard has DPs to counter magical and non-magical variations of the same phenomena.
 
cuz you supporters dont clearly agree on the same thing neither is the profile clear about it cuz that line can be interpreted differently by other people.
Huh? Someone can always claim other stuff regardless of what's accepted in the profiles, we don't do CRT's for that. Especially when there is nothing to make a CRT for as it's already applied accurately in the profiles.

The statement is not only applied correctly in the profile, but extremely clear by itself. Please explain to me how this can be interpreted differently.
"Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification causes the user to nullify 80% of yin magic."
 
I made the complete revamp for Reinhard, and I can tell you that anyone arguing that something I described as "cuts the effect of XYZ Magic" is not actually a magic-type resistance, is wrong. I even clarified in Notable Attacks/Techniques that Reinhard has DPs to counter magical and non-magical variations of the same phenomena.
Tbh, this should have been in the abilities and power section or a note attached to it... Not the other section...
 
Would we even list this on the profile considering it's a complete stomp from Acheron or do we list it below Reinhard's losses to Cosmic Garou lmfao
 
Fundamentally, any sort of energy based system like Cursed Energy or Nen should work the same way as Re:Zero's Magic by verse equalization. Reinhard's seperate divine protections for resistances to natural phenomenon would be important for matchups where the opponent actually manipulates said natural phenomenon.
 
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