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6-B Hax Merchant Reinhard Vs Cosmic Garou (Again)
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Divine Protections aren't some kind of martial art based power techniques. I don't see how Garou is copying them
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What? i never said he can copy them?
I even said that he can't in a previous comment.
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Since you argued against NLF I thought you did. Mb
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How is this not a stomp? From what I can tell, Garo has zero win conditions.
If it's (somehow) not a stomp, I guess I'll vote for Reinhard for the reasons stated above.
If it's (somehow) not a stomp, I guess I'll vote for Reinhard for the reasons stated above.
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He just portals him away. He gets blitz/stomp level above via growth. Reinhard can't even hit him
Radiation also affects Reinhard and gives Garou several opportunities.
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See, I do think some of the facts are a bit mixed up here. Reinhard's divine protection of initiative doesn't make his attacks homing exactly. But his range is thousands of kilometers. Unless Garou can instantly amp his speed over 2000x he isn't escaping it. Nor will Garou be able to copy his divine protections. Nor will he be able to permanently kill Reinhard. Nor will bfr or knocking him out work. So I vote Reinhard fra.
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The slash itself travels. It's not instant. He doesn't need to grow that much.
Garou can easily portal away as well.
BFR does work. Reinhard's resistance isn't against the act of being teleported but specifically against Magic
(Do you guys think he gets 20% teleported or something :d)
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Still got Government Dog FRA
VortechsTG
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It is near-instant. It is a sword slash. As soon as the swing completes its course the attack has been carried out.
It's not that I'm concerned about so much as the idea that he would be portaled away in the first place and that he wouldn't be able to come back. Reid himself effortlessly cut away a pseudo-black hole that was trying to drag him away to some place else and the dragon sword is superior to him. And considering the entire series starts because Subaru was brought into this world by Satella and Al Shamak could send the great rabbit into a pocket dimension we know fully well that Od Laguna had the means to facilitate a return trip if Reinhard ever were stranded in another dimension.
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I'm not calling it slow but it's not THAT instant nor any showcase of being so for the totality of that range.
NLF to Od Lagna(more to divine protections). Like saying it allows Authorities or Magic of the highest level and should give Reinhard something of that level. Just NLF.
Divine protections are not blessing that grant abilities of such level.
Reinhard's skill doesn't scale to Reid + movable portal spam. (without the sword i mean)
The Dragon Sword Reid can do it but that doesn't stop it from being a wincon as the sword itself can be taken away.
Reinhard has no resistance to Garou's passive radiation. Arguable if he's aware of the phenomenon, but even at best, It can bring down Reinhard for a while at the start. Garou has several opportunities to do anything.
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Skill wanker FRA
Also, I would like to add that Envy and Satella also Od... (Though the last would legit allow Reinhart to kill them) can all beat and I personally consider to be stronger than him.
Also, I would like to add that Envy and Satella also Od... (Though the last would legit allow Reinhart to kill them) can all beat and I personally consider to be stronger than him.
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Reinhard is technicly the strongest person "alive", but that excludes The witch of Envy and "Od lagna", meaning he techicly is the 3rd strongest.
I don't think i need to make any arguments for Od, but Envy was capable of fighting Reinhart to a stalemate, while having an incomplete manifestation and half asleep... not to mention she was still sealed... (While Reinhart was injured, I believe that argument only works if you have the mindset that Reinhard is stronger regardless of what the story says)
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Reinhard is at his weakest in the sand dunes. So he was at his weakest + heavily injured. Cecilus himself is capable of beating this Satella.
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Yes we do. It is a sword slash. The attack's destruction has already been brought about by the time it is finished. This is how it is described every single time it is used because this is what it does. You are acting like it's some kind of Lazer beam. It is a sword slash.
No, this isn't NLF. We already know he has the ability to ressurect anywhere he wants. I am simply establishing that the Od Laguna, which facilitates this, has the capability to transport someone across dimensions.
I don't even get what you're trying to get at here. He has the sword. Whether he scales exactly equal to Reid's skill or not is irrelevant. But that was a feat Reid considered unimpressive, whereas we know he would take Reinhard seriously even while heavily nerfed. They are comparable enough in skill for Reinhard to scale to his effortless feats.
The sword could be taken under the right conditions, but it would just return to him. It was with him when he resurrected all the way on the other side of the world.
Do what exactly? Reinhard would be ******* vaporized for a second and then come back adapted to it. He can't permanately kill him. He can't bfr him. He can't incapacitate him for long. At best it's a temporary inconvenience.
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In any case, we hit grace a while ago 
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For how important they are, I'm surprised Od Squall's Father still doesn't have a profile yet
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The way you say it requires infinite speed within range.
Also, i don't remember it being described like that?
I specifically said "without the sword" and then talked about the dragon sword reid.
Reinhard doesn't scale to the heavenly sword. He scales above in terms of strength but there is no skill comparison.
Can Reinhard cut the portal with the sword? Sure.
That's the same as his clothes staying with him.
His body goes there, with what he has with him.
Not some speciality of the sword or etc. It won't go back to him when he dies if it's taken.
Garou's radiation wouldn't vaporize like that :d
He can bfr him, also gives him enough time to evolve. Reinhard can't keep up with Garou.
That's literally NLF.
First, The DP of phoenix allows you to teleport anywhere in the world. You can't scale it to other dimensions if it doesn't shown to do so or stated to be capable of.
Second, Od Lagna helps him with divine protections which are limited abilities. They're not abilities of that level.
You're expecting interaction from Od Lagna far beyond anything we have seen.
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Satella and someone else were going to make a profile for Od Laguna but it was shot down by the other supporters iirc
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You should start counting votes btw, this is 5 pages long now and not being able to tally them could affect grace
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Why would it affect grace
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I'm saying that because idk how many people have voted by now, not saying it 100% will
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I counted 6 votes so far. For reinhard. None for Garou, correct me if Im wrong
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I honestly have not been keeping track lol
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Broskie there’s way more than 6
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Kind of confused by this matchup.
It is the same as last time but you gave Garou more advantages.
So, Reinhard is basically just in a loop of dying over and over since he doesn't resist radiation. And has to keep trying to hit him with the sword swing, even though Garou can just teleport away from the blast radius? Ok.
Btw, Reinhard BFR resistance is pretty fraudulent since it comes from him resisting 80% of Yin Magic, which means he does not entirely resist that element of magic, nor has he ever shown to explicitly resist portal BFR (or even just BFR in the first place), so it's a reach to even say he could not be affected by that ability of Garou.
Also, since Garou can just one-shot him into paste, it's even more of a death loop in this case. And he'd likely see that he just needs to BFR him out of the way.
I don't really get it. What's different here? Reinhard has less advantages than he had in the last matchup.
It is the same as last time but you gave Garou more advantages.
So, Reinhard is basically just in a loop of dying over and over since he doesn't resist radiation. And has to keep trying to hit him with the sword swing, even though Garou can just teleport away from the blast radius? Ok.
Btw, Reinhard BFR resistance is pretty fraudulent since it comes from him resisting 80% of Yin Magic, which means he does not entirely resist that element of magic, nor has he ever shown to explicitly resist portal BFR (or even just BFR in the first place), so it's a reach to even say he could not be affected by that ability of Garou.
Also, since Garou can just one-shot him into paste, it's even more of a death loop in this case. And he'd likely see that he just needs to BFR him out of the way.
I don't really get it. What's different here? Reinhard has less advantages than he had in the last matchup.
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What? Garou doesn't need to teleport or copy law hax? I'm confused.
I'm saying he would just teleport away from the trajectory of the attack. And appear behind him or something.
Also, is Reinhard being wanked here or something? The energy beam that is fired by Reid isn't some incarnation of the law or something lmao. It's a ******* energy beam. There's no reason he can't BFR the beam itself either.
Idk what's with re zero fans RN and mixing up mechanism behind an ability vs what the ability actually is and can do...
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Nah you don't get it. If you say Garou can use portals to teleport the beam or himself away it's an agenda because the page states that the first attack will always land.
There's a reason I stopped interacting with these threads
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The reasoning is Reinhard instantly starts with his EE, and Garou does not start fights with portals, he isn't going to know that he should portal an attack from a character who is far weaker than him, not to mention his intellect he gets from God is not going to explain to him the nature of this attack because it's not even from his verse and doesn't exist within it
Edit: Hell he can't even portal it away actually, his portals aren't even big enough to do this
What? He does have resistance to radiation he literally survived and can adapt to space, the people on the scan died because they are humans who lack ANY resistance to radiation, regardless this isn't even relevant at all anyways, as the reason they were affected is because they were in his range and his radiation is stated to have a distance of one meter the fight starts with both characters 10 meters apart
He resists Beatrice and Satella's abilities who have portals, and once again that isn't even that relevant as Garou does not start with BFRing people, where as Reinhard does start with EE. OP states that Garou is trying to KILL Reinhard, he's not going to BFR him the instant the fight starts when his goal is to kill him
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AlipheeseXIV
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I find it really funny you say this when Garou's portals are this small, can you explain how he'd portal away a blast that that is hundreds of times larger than his portals when he's never shown the ability to do that? Afaik his portals themselves might allow him to reach far, but they can only be opened up to a certain size
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CMIIW but wasn't this after he had RE'd after getting slapped by Saitama a fair bit? Also does he start with this?
Btw letting ya'll know the scan for this is broken
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Yes.
No, but he theoretically could.
Huh, it is. Thanks for letting us know.
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I got two entirely different answers breh...
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Reread the chapter. This was before he started to grow.
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If I'm not remembering incorrectly this was after their fight on Earth got moved (which he had already been growing there)
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Using BFR on explosions is a standard tactic. Both him and Blast did it.
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