Dusttale but good (Indie Cross Frisk vs FND Sans)

[Axorandom0]

Mx. Genocides vs the guy with murder in his name. Who wins?

Both are 8-C, Sans is in his You Are key, Frisk has all optional equipment except Glamrock Freddy.

Frisk (Oneshot above 0.584 Tons of TNT): 0

Sans (Upscales 0.6147 Tons by virtue of bigger ATK number): 0

Incon: 0

Combat speed is equalized, the fight takes place in the Judgement Hall, SBA for everything else.

 

[Axorandom0]

Quick note: While they shouldn’t be able to oneshot due to Sans upscaling a higher value than Frisk (albeit to a lesser extent than Frisk), Frisk should still arguably hold the AP advantage imo. Sans can make up for the gap with his durability negation, though.

 

[O0DSF0o]

Ok so Frisk kinda has a massive skill advantage but I'm not sure how Frisk can get to Murder!sans since he can just teleport a ton (which he does in combat a lot btw). also due Murder!sans having dura neg, if Murder!sans hurts Frisk its a LOT WORSE for Frisk than it is the other way around.

 

[Axorandom0]

Ok so Frisk kinda has a massive skill advantage but I'm not sure how Frisk can get to Murder!sans since he can just teleport a ton (which he does in combat a lot btw). also due Murder!sans having dura neg, if Murder!sans hurts Frisk its a LOT WORSE for Frisk than it is the other way around.

And now that I look more closely at it, Frisk’s travel speed is much lower than their combat speed while Sans’ reactions are higher than his combat speed. Should I unequalize speed so that it could technically be closer?

 

[O0DSF0o]

And now that I look more closely at it, Frisk’s travel speed is much lower than their combat speed while Sans’ reactions are higher than his combat speed. Should I unequalize speed so that it could technically be closer?

hell no lmao, that would just make frisk throw around Murder!sans like a basketball before he even realises it

 

[Axorandom0]

hell no lmao, that would just make frisk throw around Murder!sans like a basketball before he even realises it

Sans’ reactions scale to 400 m/s, Frisk’s combat speed is 384 m/s and their travel is lower than Sans’.

 

[O0DSF0o]

Sans’ reactions scale to 400 m/s, Frisk’s combat speed is 384 m/s and their travel is lower than Sans’.

just because you can react to something, doesn't mean you can move with it. Like Murder!sans can like move his head a bit ig but he's still going to be manhandled anyways with unequalised speed

 

[Axorandom0]

just because you can react to something, doesn't mean you can move with it. Like Murder!sans can like move his head a bit ig but he's still going to be manhandled anyways with unequalised speed

Sans’ reactions come from dodging BF’s attack by stepping back and, as you said earlier, he uses his teleports a ton in combat. Since he won’t be getting oneshot by Frisk + he has a reset button, he’ll catch on to how he’ll need to use his TP in order to dodge.

 

[O0DSF0o]

Sans’ reactions come from dodging BF’s attack by stepping back and, as you said earlier

Boyfriend has Supersonic reactions, they both move at the same speed thus letting Murder!sans dodge out of the way

he has a reset button

no character uses reset button during combat

 

[Axorandom0]

Boyfriend has Supersonic reactions, they both move at the same speed thus letting Murder!sans dodge out of the way

Wait then why does his reaction speed scale to BFs if it only comes from dodging??? You don’t normally react to something as you attack???

no character uses reset button during combat

Wait huh???? The only reason I chose You Are Sans was because he could match Frisk’s resets lol. Now it’s a stomp whether speed is equal or not I’m pretty sure.

 

[O0DSF0o]

Wait then why does his reaction speed scale to BFs if it only comes from dodging???

ok yea I'm starting to see this is a error on my part, I'll fix that stuff up right away

Wait huh???? The only reason I chose You Are Sans was because he could match Frisk’s resets lol. Now it’s a stomp whether speed is equal or not I’m pretty sure.

I mean wouldn't destroying Frisk's soul kinda bypass that? The immortality isn't on that level it seems

 

[Axorandom0]

I mean wouldn't destroying Frisk's soul kinda bypass that? The immortality isn't on that level it seems

Depends on just how tied IC’s saves are to the soul. Idk if there’s anything explicit saying they’re correlated like, y’know, actual UT or FND, so I’d have to rewatch the series.

 

[O0DSF0o]

Depends on just how tied IC’s saves are to the soul. Idk if there’s anything explicit saying they’re correlated like, y’know, actual UT or FND, so I’d have to rewatch the series.

In that case then wouldn't it be incon by us simply not knowing enough right now?