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"Oldest Devil vs. Oldest Human" (Aging Devil Vs. Adam 2) (0-0-0)

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It’s something theyve only ever did when they have been told to do bc of a devil contract with Public Safety WHILE being in a separate dimension.

The only reason Aging even bothered with Pochita instead of TS&BFR diffing him like everybody else is that they were aiming for a different plan with him

Aging is not fond of violence or... cooking like the other Primals. They seem to find it immature. So, if they view you as an opponent who wants to cause harm per SBA page says they would rather simply get rid of you and send you somewhere you can mature. They would have no problem starting with Time Stop and following with BFR. They also have other stuff they can follow up with like Transmutation and Decay.
Fair points
Even if Adam was FTL and starting with soul light or whatever I don't see him winning since light speed travelling tens of meters of distance will take a lot of time.. Aging can just stop it so many times before it can hit them
Adam's HL doesn't take a long time at all
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Mind you, the one he used against the ship cross 56.84 meters in a single frame
 
They only did this cuz they were irratated that Pochita wasn't gonna eat them
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Not really, the panel you showed was after Yoru had attempted to engage in combat with the Aging Devil, which the Aging Devil responded to by stopping time and analyzing the situation. They were sent inside the world for negotiations. However, nothing suggests that the Aging Devil would not send Adam in that context, especially in a match up where they are both in a fight trying to win by any means.
When an attack from a neautral party comes for it, it just uses it's telekinesis
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Unless we're saying it views Adam in the same light as Pochita, who it wants to end him, and War, who is ruining said plans for pochita, realistically, it ain't going for TS+BFR+PN
This one is kinda wonky. That octopus wrapping around the pillar is not an attack on the Aging Devil, just Yoshida's attempt to see if the Aging Devil would allow them to escape through Pochita's stomach, as shown in your own scan. The major point here is that the Aging Devil is actively trying to convince Pochita to comply and erase him from existence, a.k.a. kill him, by sitting down and just spewing words to convince Pochita why he should consume him. Time Stop, BFR and Power Null were what the Aging Devil used to assess attacks and opponents. And would be no different in a serious fight unless proven otherwise.
Adam, due to having 562.52 m/s worth of flight speed (which, iirc, doesn't really get equalized in equal speed), he can instantly cross the distance between himself and Aging and will slice at Aging. If it hit aging, it's not healing due to negating low-godly regen
That's not gonna be happening considering even in speed equal, Agings reaction speed would be capable of reacting to this. Not to mention that this would invalidate the entire matchup if the slower character has a speed advantage against a faster one. Scaling, feats, OP characters and barely stomp matches feels.
 
Adam's HL doesn't take a long time at all
Aren't they light speed? So it takes 0.00000025 sec to travel 75m while an even baseline ftl opponent can stop time in 0.000000003336 sec according to perception page. My point was even if speed was unequal and hazbin was still ftl and they both were to start with their wincons Aging would still win.


Adam's bloodlusted now and he HL spams when enraged
Moving ur hand and shooting a beam is one action the beam travelling another. Stopping time is one action and requires less effort for Aging. Also no way we are doing speed equal gazillion times attack speed stuff thats fraud.
 
Yeah Pearly makes sense. It's hard to argue getting an entire attack out when the opponent just has to think in order to freeze time
 
This one is kinda wonky. That octopus wrapping around the pillar is not an attack on the Aging Devil, just Yoshida's attempt to see if the Aging Devil would allow them to escape through Pochita's stomach, as shown in your own scan. The major point here is that the Aging Devil is actively trying to convince Pochita to comply and erase him from existence, a.k.a. kill him, by sitting down and just spewing words to convince Pochita why he should consume him. Time Stop, BFR and Power Null were what the Aging Devil used to assess attacks and opponents. And would be no different in a serious fight unless proven otherwise.
An important point to add to this too is that Aging isn't just aiming to die, it specifically wanted the deaths of 10,000 children as its cost as well as wanting to see (somehow) what'd happen to humanity without Aging. When Yoru intervened in its exchange with Pochita, it was annoyed and immediately went for the BFR

All that meaning that Adam having the means to kill it won't really mean that Aging will just sit there and take it; Realistically its gonna be annoyed by Adam being so foul-mouthed and just insta-Bang him, because part of what Aging wanted was Pochita specifically eating it to erase it from existence and thus remove Aging as a concept.
 
the rest are good points props but I KNOW good and well CSM fans aren't complaining and calling speed equalization "fraud" when makima for years had insane reactions and insane attack speed thwt let her win multiple matchups
 
Aren't they light speed? So it takes 0.00000025 sec to travel 75m while an even baseline ftl opponent can stop time in 0.000000003336 sec according to perception page. My point was even if speed was unequal and hazbin was still ftl and they both were to start with their wincons Aging would still win.
hazbin's not ftl anymore otherways Adam be a blitz tier above 1.7c
Moving ur hand and shooting a beam is one action the beam travelling another. Stopping time is one action and requires less effort for Aging.
fair
Also no way we are doing speed equal gazillion times attack speed stuff thats fraud.
Makima matchups say hello
 
the rest are good points props but I KNOW good and well CSM fans aren't complaining and calling speed equalization "fraud" when makima for years had insane reactions and insane attack speed thwt let her win multiple matchups
Not our fault people wanted smoke with Mommy.
 
Not our fault people wanted smoke with Mommy.
gojo victim talking too much.
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(it's not but don't compain when the standard is used)
Not really, the panel you showed was after Yoru had attempted to engage in combat with the Aging Devil, which the Aging Devil responded to by stopping time and analyzing the situation. They were sent inside the world for negotiations. However, nothing suggests that the Aging Devil would not send Adam in that context, especially in a match up where they are both in a fight trying to win by any means.

This one is kinda wonky. That octopus wrapping around the pillar is not an attack on the Aging Devil, just Yoshida's attempt to see if the Aging Devil would allow them to escape through Pochita's stomach, as shown in your own scan. The major point here is that the Aging Devil is actively trying to convince Pochita to comply and erase him from existence, a.k.a. kill him, by sitting down and just spewing words to convince Pochita why he should consume him. Time Stop, BFR and Power Null were what the Aging Devil used to assess attacks and opponents. And would be no different in a serious fight unless proven otherwise.
fair points
That's not gonna be happening considering even in speed equal, Agings reaction speed would be capable of reacting to this. Not to mention that this would invalidate the entire matchup if the slower character has a speed advantage against a faster one. Scaling, feats, OP characters and barely stomp matches feels.
i was larping. Adam just has faster movement speed since he has flight but his travel speed doesn't remain, as far as i know. egen if it is and he crossed the distance, he'd gp back to having equal combat speed so he'd just seing his axe at a speed Aging can easily react to.
not that it matters, Adam's bloodlusted so HL Spam
 
chill on chainsaw man, part 1 is peak fiction.
"Chainsaw Man Part 1 is peak fiction I swear" and everyone just dies. It's not hard to accept that Part 2 just had alot more going on for it.

Plus I think they were referring to the weird shit that happens in CSM. Part 1 is equally as bad as Part 2 in that metric.
 
-rips off shirt to reveal undershirt that says "I <3 Themes And Such"- Part 2 isnt even that bad tbh. Like genuine criticisms aside people hated the ending just because they absolutely expected a more traditional shonen style ending. The overwhelming majority of criticisms towards Part 2 and its ending ive seen ultimately stem from what it isnt as opposed to its actual quality
 
We are not doing this in vsbw😭
Better than Twitter, where a conversation goes like:

Person 1: I really think Fujimoto is the best author out of the manga I've read! [2 likes]

Person 2: You CSM elitist scum! You think your manga is better than ours, huh!? Isn't this the last line of your main antagonist!? [Posts image without explaining why it's necessarily bad or what the issue with it is] [1.3k likes] [5k retweets] [900 Quotes of approval]
 
"Chainsaw Man Part 1 is peak fiction I swear" and everyone just dies. It's not hard to accept that Part 2 just had alot more going on for it.
part 2 sympathizer simplifies part 1 in an effort to bolster part 2.
the jokes write themselves
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Plus I think they were referring to the weird shit that happens in CSM. Part 1 is equally as bad as Part 2 in that metric.
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Better than Twitter, where a conversation goes like:

Person 1: I really think Fujimoto is the best author out of the manga I've read! [2 likes]

Person 2: You CSM elitist scum! You think your manga is better than ours, huh!? Isn't this the last line of your main antagonist!? [Posts image without explaining why it's necessarily bad or what the issue with it is] [1.3k likes] [5k retweets] [900 Quotes of approval]
saying this like asa pfps ain't have the most most elitist takes ever and downplay shonen as a whole despite csm beiny shonen.
Twitter just sucks as a whole on both sides
 
CSM Part 1 Downplay combine with Part 2 glaze makes me see red.
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i deadass don't hate part 2, it entertained me, but damn did part 1 hit me
For me, I likely ended up loving Part 2 more, because in contrast to Part 1 which I binge read, I've been with CSM part 2 theorists for multiple years until the very end. So I came to understand and love it more than Part 1.
 
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