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Childe vs Wilhelm [4-9-0] [Grace]
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AlipheeseXIV
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Doesn't Childe get tired fast after using FL? I know I know it's not as bad as it was in early 1.x where bro fought some robots and straight up was on the floor post nut aired out but like...even later in Fontaine, while he was able to hold the form against the Narhwal for a lot longer the fact FL is on a timer before he's essentially incapped is pretty important here.
But well...Childe def has the more impressive set of hax, but tbf they aren't anything immediately life threatening, Wilhelm has a massive skill advantage and to top that off he has insane AD and higher stats. Childe scales to 18.49 Megatons while Wilhelm scales to 40.185 Megatons and once Childe finishes using FL he gets exhausted and is basically incapped so...idk my moneys probably on Wilhelm
But well...Childe def has the more impressive set of hax, but tbf they aren't anything immediately life threatening, Wilhelm has a massive skill advantage and to top that off he has insane AD and higher stats. Childe scales to 18.49 Megatons while Wilhelm scales to 40.185 Megatons and once Childe finishes using FL he gets exhausted and is basically incapped so...idk my moneys probably on Wilhelm
AlipheeseXIV
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Also wait, this is Inazuma key and not Fontaine right?
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I didnt put any restrictions on him, which key would you say would be fairer?
AlipheeseXIV
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If it's Fontaine key Childe just stomps since FL makes him 6B, I'd think Inazuma would be the closest since using FL Childe's stats (the 18.49 megatons) should end up closer to Wilhelm's 40.185 megatons (a bit lower probably) but that's just what I think
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Wilhelm gets to 6B in a life or death situation in his prime key via his awakened power, and they scale to pretty much the same value (24 teratons)
Vortech mentioned powernulling his aura + without feats i dont think his passive is a solid wincon especially because of how short their battle will actually be since it was explicitly mentioned that the passive takes time to affect people without resistance
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It's only a "passive" in the sense that every one of his attacks has it... and it wouldn't even have an immediate effect. Childe would literally have to bombarded Wilhelm with attacks. Nevermind that he wouldn't even use his foul legacy in the first place and there's no indication that the normal amount of elemental energy wielded by a vision user causes any significant effects. Smaragdus Jadeite is an unusually high concentration of elemental energy.
AlipheeseXIV
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Oh nvm then, we ball. My vote will probably still be Wilhelm cuz yeah...as Vortechs said Childe's passives don't have immediate affects
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I guess the Wilheim scream is more consistently able to do his wincon than Turtleguy.
The Wilheim scream fra
The Wilheim scream fra
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I'm not so sure about that
Given that he went missing for over a month due to the Narwhal, he must've been fighting it for a similar length of time. His stamina ain't the problem here
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I have added the votes, lemme know if i missed anybody!
thank you guys for participating btw, yall goated
thank you guys for participating btw, yall goated
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Voting for Childe fra
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kill me if im wrong but is your name a Toaru reference?
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This is true, yeah. Stamina does not seem to be a problem anymore.
AlipheeseXIV
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I guess that would make sense then yeah, nvm lol
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The vision users are resistent towards Smaragdus, so Visions or other means of concentraded Elemental Energy should output more concentration of elemental energy
Anyways vote on Ajax
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Skirk trained him wellAjax Fra
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You would be correct actually.
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These would just be an even worse stomp.yo is Surtalogi vs Reinhard or Reid plausible
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Wilhelm FRA
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There's zero reason to assume it works that way, but even if there were, Smaragdus Jadeite still only has noticeable effects with prolonged exposure. This is meaningless for a battle like this.
I truly just don't see how Wilhelm doesn't absolutely demolish here. Like, Childe's advantages in base basically amount to different applications of his elemental abilities which is... no different from magic. In his Foul Legacy transformation he also has true flight and teleportation, and his attacks can kinda sorta cause some corrosive/disease effects on injury. Nevermind that Wilhelm can fight perfectly fine with his chest torn open and his heart exposed. Something a normal human can live for years from before eventually succumbing to isn't going to seriously hinder Wilhelm's ability to fight.
But he wouldn't be tagged by abyssal energy in the first place. Childe has virtually no feats of skill aside from some impressive weapon mastery. A 14-year-old Wilhelm with zero battle experience whatsoever was a better fighter than he is. Wilhelm's prediction alone would suffice. He was able to take a single look at Yae and immediately, accurately know it would take him four moves to kill her despite knowing absolutely nothing about her before he saw her. He then proceeded to simply outmatch her at every turn. Despite the fact that she had time to prepare traps in advance and despite the fact she could accurately control hundreds of steel threads from her fingertips with extreme muscular control alone, he still predicted it and continued to do so even in complete darkness. That's bad enough, but Re:Zero's "transcendents" are capable of disregarding logic itself through sheer skill alone. The usual example used is being able to stand out in a rainstorm and dodge the rain. And that allowed Wilhelm in a narrow pit, as Yae still controlled her hundreds of threads, to just dodge through them and close in on her.
Childe will not enter his foul legacy and sit back and attack Wilhelm from range as he flies and teleports around. That is not in character in the slightest. But even if he does, it will not help him that much. He is completely outmatched by someone who will know his every move before he even begins to form the thought of it. Just read Wilhelm's intelligence section if you somehow aren't convinced.
In any case, I vote for Wilhelm.
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U mean there no reason to assume the rock that uses the UES works the same way at the most common source to get the UES?
I gennually don't know from where the heck u got the "years" statment when the quest of it tells us that the guy affected by it had barely around himself for a few days. Ofc this isnt gonna affect the fight itself but making up things is bad yk?
Why wouldnt he be tagged by Abyssal Energy?
Its not an active energy that would try to follow Willhelm, it would surround Childe just by the mere use of FL (Bassicly passive aura that gives u corruption, corrosion, etc)
if Childe enters FL, he would gennually have the attack and ability advantage over Awaken Willhelm (Barely 1.1 times stronger or something like that, passive Abyssal Aura, Paralysis via Electro to shackle him in place and Spatial Rift opening to dura negation the man)
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Also, Childe with his Foul Legacy would just blitz him cause he has Stats Amp from both Abyssal Energy and Electro Element.
Saying Childe won't be able to enter his Foul Legacy is just funny to say, cause this cutscene literally showing him using his Foul Legacy immediately just to clean up robots, even though those robots are nothing but his base form victims.
Saying Childe won't be able to enter his Foul Legacy is just funny to say, cause this cutscene literally showing him using his Foul Legacy immediately just to clean up robots, even though those robots are nothing but his base form victims.
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oh brother you are not familiar with re zero's skill slop and dealing with perception blitzes
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Not Reinhard but they do have a wincon against Reid by dura negyo is Surtalogi vs Reinhard or Reid plausible
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Sahl, u dont understand it
We cant glaze the chinese gacha characters, thats bad and stuff
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This is like the second matchup where Childe lost bro
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Grace is over and this match can be added now
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