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TenSura - Magicules stuff.

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Hello everyone. Here we are with a new TenSura LN Revision.

The objective of this thread is to fix/uptade the old Magicules section (and relative abilities) of our General Concepts page.
Here it is:

Obviously these changes will effect all characters that have aura (basically the entire vere so i'm not gonna list them).

Votes:
Agree: KingTempest, Elizhaa, SomebodyData
Disagree:
Neutral:


Lastly, please, keep your behavior friendly and non-toxic, and avoid derailing!
 
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Berga14 said:
Hello everyone. Here we are with a new TenSura LN Revision.

The objective of this thread is to fix/uptade the old Magicules section (and relative abilities) of our General Concepts page.
Here it is:

Obviously these changes will effect all characters that have aura (basically the entire vere so i'm not gonna list them).

Votes:
Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:


Lastly, please, keep your behavior friendly and non-toxic, and avoid derailing!
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As someone who worked his ass off making ds, I agree.
Should mention that it only overwrites the "Ability" sub-tabber of the Magicules tabber.
 
Looks good overall, but I personally don't agree with attack reflection for low level monsters, especially, since the example in the scan is Milim.

If we have an example from an actual low lvl monster than it works, otherwise I'm against it.
 

Low-level Monsters:​

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Even if we make miasma = magicules. Here the corrosive effect is linked to a curse, not to the magicules. Furthermore, it's compared to Rimuru's ability; I don't think just any monster has corrosion at the level of an ultimate ability, Gaia's ability is special.

Demon Lords:​

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This doesn't talk about Demon Lords, but about Veldora; there isn't even a scan that says Veldora has a Demon Lord aura at that moment, it's a True Dragon.

True Dragons:​

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I don't think it involves biological manipulation.

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This scan doesn't give any of the abilities you're trying to give it (maybe you got the wrong scan)

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I don't see gravity manipulation; I think this is environmental destruction.
 
Eikichi_Sensei said:

Low-level Monsters:​


Even if we make miasma = magicules. Here the corrosive effect is linked to a curse, not to the magicules. Furthermore, it's compared to Rimuru's ability; I don't think just any monster has corrosion at the level of an ultimate ability, Gaia's ability is special.
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Other examples:
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While Milim's example may be implausible here, I think we can use the scan related to spatial transfer. It shows that concentration of magicule can cause irradiation of organic material (I guess this would also give magicules radiation manip_
Eikichi_Sensei said:

Demon Lords​


This doesn't talk about Demon Lords, but about Veldora; there isn't even a scan that says Veldora has a Demon Lord aura at that moment, it's a True Dragon.
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Aura is one same thing for all beings, it is emitted from all beings passively (scan is present in sandbox). What you're saying is probably confusing it with Haki, which is unique to evolutions (like true demon lord haki, and true dragon haki, and hero's haki), that's an intrinsic skill.

Veldora at the moment is sealed inside, there is no reason for him to exert his full force (in fact, while sealed, A-rank or stronger monsters can resist his baseline aura, but when unsealed as a true dragon, his haki was erasing even Rimuru himself).

Rimuru erasing the hero guy with concentrated aura is also on the same lvl as this in such a case.
Eikichi_Sensei said:

True Dragons:​

I don't think it involves biological manipulation.
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How is making someone's body explode not biological manip?
Eikichi_Sensei said:
This scan doesn't give any of the abilities you're trying to give it (maybe you got the wrong scan)
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Oh yeah, the link's wrong, mb. I'll fix the scan
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Eikichi_Sensei said:
I don't see gravity manipulation; I think this is environmental destruction.
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that would be if the star was actually destroyed. However, we know that mass and density are proportional, and the increase in them also increases one's own gravitational force. A True dragon level's aura density is so much that the gravitational force it produces can distort the shape of a star.
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Other examples:
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Image Chest

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While Milim's example may be implausible here, I think we can use the scan related to spatial transfer. It shows that concentration of magicule can cause irradiation of organic material (I guess this would also give magicules radiation manip.
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I guess it works.
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Aura is one same thing for all beings, it is emitted from all beings passively (scan is present in sandbox). What you're saying is probably confusing it with Haki, which is unique to evolutions (like true demon lord haki, and true dragon haki, and hero's haki), that's an intrinsic skill.

Veldora at the moment is sealed inside, there is no reason for him to exert his full force (in fact, while sealed, A-rank or stronger monsters can resist his baseline aura, but when unsealed as a true dragon, his haki was erasing even Rimuru himself).

Rimuru erasing the hero guy with concentrated aura is also on the same lvl as this in such a case.
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I think it's better to use Rimuru's than Veldora's, since we never have a statement that his aura at that moment was at the level of a Demon Lord.
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How is making someone's body explode not biological manip?
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(Now that I see the scan again, I don't see the word "explode" but "destroy." The body can't withstand a large amount of magic, causing it to be destroyed. It's not that the magic does something to his biology to make him explode; it simply explodes if he consumes too much.)

I'll leave it to the staff. It seems like just self-destruction, really, if the characters can't withstand the amount of magic.
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Oh yeah, the link's wrong, mb. I'll fix the scan
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Okay.
Astral_Trinity439 said:
that would be if the star was actually destroyed. However, we know that mass and density are proportional, and the increase in them also increases one's own gravitational force. A True dragon level's aura density is so much that the gravitational force it produces can distort the shape of a star.
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IDK. I'll leave it to the staff then.
 
Eikichi_Sensei said:
I think it's better to use Rimuru's than Veldora's, since we never have a statement that his aura at that moment was at the level of a Demon Lord.
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Why would it even be at full strength (true dragon lvl) when he's literally sealed?
The very fact that A-ranks can resist his sealed aura is proof that he's either below or equal to true demon lord lvl at that time, since even rimuru's own aura can erase the hero guy who's above A rank
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Why would it even be at full strength (true dragon lvl) when he's literally sealed?
The very fact that A-ranks can resist his sealed aura is proof that he's either below or equal to true demon lord lvl at that time, since even rimuru's own aura can erase the hero guy who's above A rank
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I still think Rimuru is an even better example 🫠, likewise the Demon Lords will have it through the EP thread (which includes magicules) of astraphelnoctics4.
 
I think the text for Plasma Manipulation can also be used for Deconstruction as it can crush beings into tiny pieces.

I think the Explosion Manipulation rating doesn't qualify for Biological Manipulation at the same time. At best it could be Limited Biological Manipulation, but not full on. It could also be a form of Durability Negation as the damage is done in the inside.

The rest seems fine
 
RaikiKurohane99 said:
I think the text for Plasma Manipulation can also be used for Deconstruction as it can crush beings into tiny pieces.

I think the Explosion Manipulation rating doesn't qualify for Biological Manipulation at the same time. At best it could be Limited Biological Manipulation, but not full on. It could also be a form of Durability Negation as the damage is done in the inside.

The rest seems fine
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Have added the changes.
RaikiKurohane99 said:
Names?
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@Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @SomebodyData @KingTempest @Random-Helper323
 
RaikiKurohane99 said:
I think the text for Plasma Manipulation can also be used for Deconstruction as it can crush beings into tiny pieces.
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Astral_Trinity439 said:
Have added the changes.
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I do not think this qualifies as Deconstruction. The page specifically states that deconstruction must be the core mechanism, rather than merely a consequence of another ability or power.
Note: Natural side effects from powers, such as Energy Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Vibration Manipulation, and other abilities that can produce enough energy output to destroy or dismantle objects, do not mean that characters automatically qualify for this ability, unless the abilities in question specifically and directly focus on deconstruction in itself, rather than as a consequence.
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