Namek GBE revision/Calc replacement

[Nullflowerblush]

Regardless of the results, your calculation is incorrect because the logic requires the three stars around Namek to orbit around the planet within less distance than is between Earth and the moon. The logic of your calculation requires the star being used as a reference to be both parallel with Namek and, thus, within close proximity to have its size accurately compared with that of Namek's using basic pixel scaling, which is simply impossible—especially considering more recent depictions of Namek and its surrounding space, such as here, here, and here.

 

[Mgebrat282]

Regardless of the results, your calculation is incorrect because the logic requires the three stars around Namek to orbit around the planet within less distance than is between Earth and the moon. The logic of your calculation requires the star being used as a reference to be both parallel with Namek and, thus, within close proximity to have its size accurately compared with that of Namek's using basic pixel scaling, which is simply impossible—especially considering more recent depictions of Namek and its surrounding space, such as here, here, and here.

They might have just forgotten to put the stars in there, there might be animation errors, so now all the calculations are going to the trash because of it?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

now all the calculations are going to the trash because of it?

Not to toot my own horn, but again, you can calculate the size of Namek using different, less egregious methods. Like angle sizing. Like here.

Namek isn't circling its suns, but suns are cyrcling it like our moon around the Earth.

I actually thought it over for a bit, and then I realized after checking my own calculation blog that, at one point—and likely various other points throughout the manga—two of Namek's suns can seen in the sky simultaneously, which does not work with the "Three suns in orbit around Planet Namek" example you're drawing from; an example which, mind you, depicts the planet as many times smaller than its suns, but I digress. And now, here's the issue, those two suns are later depicted on completely opposite sides of the planet, which can only mean that one of them orbits faster than the other; and given Kepler's Third Law, the orangish-red one with the stripes would have to be the faster one, considering it's closer to Namek and assuming Namek is the center of orbit. If you to pixelscale that very image under the assumption that the stars were parallel with Namek and in close proximity, though, the results would suggest the solid reddish sun is closer, which isn't correct; which can only mean that those suns are not depicted as in close proximity to Namek and, thus, smaller, but as the exact opposite—much, much farther away from the point of view than Namek is.

 

[Mgebrat282]

Not to toot my own horn, but again, you can calculate the size of Namek using different, less egregious methods. Like angle sizing. Like here.

Maybe I should just use your calc for this thread. Won't you be mad? Do you have a discord?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Eh, I need to rework it.

 

[Mgebrat282]

Eh, I need to rework it.

Ok, what about discord?

 

[KLOL506]

RN Qawsedf and Nullflower seem to make sense.

 

[KLOL506]

He says the Namek is Earrh sized after the exo-planet statement as well:

So he maintains that Namek is Earth-like but potentially bigger

Would that not just default it to the 37,700 km diameter for the typical DB planet?

 

[KingTempest]

Your calculation is objectively wrong.
There is no way you lowered every single measurement by over a factor of 7 but then increased the GBE by several magnitudes

 

[Qawsedf234]

Would that not just default it to the 37,700 km diameter for the typical DB planet?

Yeah

 

[MrTayman616]

Are those even considered reliable or canon? Those seem far more problematic than questionable Word of God statements to me.

Could Humans Survive on Planet Namek? We Asked an Expert to Tell Us About the Planet's Ecosystem​

Could Dragon Ball's Room of Spirit and Time Exist in the Real World? We Asked a Real Physicist and Arrived at an Unexpected Conclusion!​

Anything related to the author or someone that actually has canonical author level knowledge? No. This is just asking irrelevant people to the manga their opinions.

At first glance, it's easy to assume that the Room of Spirit and Time couldn't actually exist in the real world, but what insights might an actual physicist be able to offer on this matter?

To find out, I interviewed Professor Nobuyoshi Ohta, a physicist at Taiwan's National Central University. Professor Ohta's field of expertise involves research into particle physics, space, gravity, and more!

Planet Namek played a big role in the original story of Dragon Ball, but it makes us wonder: just what kind of world is it, really?

We are joined this time by Yasuhito Sekine, a professor at the Tokyo Institute of Technology and someone well-versed in Dragon Ball lore. Professor Sekine will help us to shed some light on this mysterious planet through the lens of planetary science.

Basically those who apparently read the manga and who are experts of some scientific area irl. These are not facts that are usable to the series itself.

If someone they interview claims something, it'll be there regardless if it's right or wrong. It doesn't rely on what the author did or what the actual intent was etc.

They shouldn't be usable imo. (If there are actual reasonings for them to be considered as such, then maybe? If it had already been talked about or already accepted like that, then sorry and please ignore this )

 

[Mgebrat282]

Your calculation is objectively wrong.
There is no way you lowered every single measurement by over a factor of 7 but then increased the GBE by several magnitudes

I got GBE from the explosion which was caused by Namek's GBE alone. The current GBE is just an average GBE without taking the explosion in account

 

[Mgebrat282]

Are those even considered reliable or canon? Those seem far more problematic than questionable Word of God statements to me.


Anything related to the author or someone that actually has canonical author level knowledge? No. This is just asking irrelevant people to the manga their opinions.


Basically those who apparently read the manga and who are experts of some scientific area irl. These are not facts that are usable to the series itself.

If someone they interview claims something, it'll be there regardless if it's right or wrong. It doesn't rely on what the author did or what the actual intent was etc.

They shouldn't be usable imo. (If there are actual reasonings for them to be considered as such, then maybe? If it had already been talked about or already accepted like that, then sorry and please ignore this )

Well, I don't really use them in my calc. It's just for saying those stars aren't Sun size as the term "Sun" is commonly used in fiction just to say "star". Nothing more

 

[Robo432343]

is anyone planning on making a new thread regarding Namek's current size?

 

[Mgebrat282]

Bump

 

[Mgebrat282]

Bump