Roblox — Nuking Pressure off the wiki

[GodlyCharmander]

Zeal did commit SA, there are so many evidences in the documents that would prove so and that Zeal even admitted how he's terrible at doing it. Zeal literally did that to Ren when she was paralyzed after she was having a breakdown for multiple hours regarding the higher-ups of Pressure. I don't know how you could manage to say that Zeal didn't commit SA and how Ren is a manipulator and a liar, the burden of proof is literally on Zeal and I'm not seeing the otherwise when it's literally just victim blaming. And no, sorry man but if there was definitive evidence from what I'm seeing on the video other than victim blaming. There is a difference here really, take the Marlowww situation in which it was actually solid for the other party on why. I don't know how you are interpreting this to be on the same level as Kwite, the doc I read if you actually read the entirety of it is literally the most heinous thing I've ever read. And yes, it has to do with this CRT because it's the reasons why artists are taking back their assets, VAs being removed and the game being mass-reported (i.e under the verge of deletion). There is no future for Pressure especially if the profile creator said it himself, that he won't be associating with it anymore.

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Take the Zeal/Ren situation to walls or DMs or off-site please. It's derailing this thread.

 

[Voidnether]

Ignoring the contradictions and lies in the very document that put the entire thing into question is not a fair way to engage with the video. You already bought the mentality that Ren is a victim as a fact, which is clouding your judgement imo.

This is not an argument.

 

[Xdsagecat]

So uh, is this all Internet speculation or are there any police reports/court documents?

 

[DaReaperMan]

@Voidnether Do I need to start pulling full-fledged staff members to deal with the derailment?

 

[Voidnether]

So uh, is this all Internet speculation or are there any police reports/court documents?

All of it did happen in the document I sent after a few replies, so they weren't internet speculation as that document is what's resulting in the assets being removed, VAs being removed like Sebastian. Pressure fell off to a thousand players only with no one updating the game anymore, and it being on a verge of deletion. The profile creator was the one proposing the deletion of the verse, even before me LMFAO because of that Zeal situation.

 

[Voidnether]

@Voidnether Do I need to start pulling full-fledged staff members to deal with the derailment?

It's not a derailment, that situation is the main point here on why assets are being removed because artists don't wanna do anything with Pressure anymore, VAs like Sebastian pulling out from Pressure and the game constantly being under the verge of deletion. Like I said, the profile creator literally proposed this verse deleted because of the Zeal situation. Whilst it would be best to address these firsthand, it is still not a derailment. Just that it's not something that should be talked appropriately here. I don't know how it would be derailment when the profile creator of Pressure literally wanted to delete it basing off the Zeal situation. I'm the one deleting it over here because of the consequences with the action that Zeal committed which is what warrants this verse REMOVED. It doesn't change the fact that statistics are guesswork, zero scans and profiles RELY on references because no one cares about the verse anymore in 2026. Let's be honest here.

 

[Kellex]

The controversy should NOT have any effect on whether if the verse should be removed or not.
Otherwise we'd have to remove a shit ton of works like Rurouni Kenshin, Yandere Simulator, Blizzard/Ubisoft games like DaReaperMan said, and even other Roblox games like Grace which has been delisted not too long ago while researching Pressure. Some creators are bad people or the worst of the worst yes, but you can separate the art from the artist and still have it indexed on the wiki.

 

[Voidnether]

Roblox is an engine tool, rather than a game itself. It's not like controversies surrounding Unity or Epic Games should be reasons to delete every Unity or Unreal Engine developed game verse.

It's not about Roblox being deleted but only a verse within it, which is Pressure and well, you know what the consequences were such as assets being removed, VAs being removed, stuff surrounding it being heinous and the game under a verge of deletion with this being the sole reason back then why the profile creator requested for a deletion of this verse especially because of what the creator of the game is doing. It should be gone because the stats are guesswork anyways, abilities don't have scans other than references. The last time anyone cares about it was in Mid-2025, no one cares about it a year after. There's no reason to keep this indexed on the wiki as polished as it is when the verse would be abandoned EITHER WAY.

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's not a derailment, that situation is the main point here on why assets are being removed because artists don't wanna do anything with Pressure anymore, VAs like Sebastian pulling out from Pressure and the game constantly being under the verge of deletion. Like I said, the profile creator literally proposed this verse deleted because of the Zeal situation. Whilst it would be best to address these firsthand, it is still not a derailment. Just that it's not something that should be talked appropriately here. I don't know how it would be derailment when the profile creator of Pressure literally wanted to delete it basing off the Zeal situation. I'm the one deleting it over here because of the consequences with the action that Zeal committed which is what warrants this verse REMOVED. It doesn't change the fact that statistics are guesswork, zero scans and profiles RELY on references.

Yes. It is derailment. The fact the assets are being removed is all that matters because that could straight up impact the wiki, the only reason that the reason behind it would be brought up is because someone got curious, asked, and can be answered in a simple "Drama regarding Zeal and Ren, look it up if you would like more information."

 

[Voidnether]

The controversy should NOT have any affect on whether if the verse should be removed or not.
Otherwise we'd have to remove a shit ton of works like Rurouni Kenshin, Yandere Simulator, Blizzard/Ubisoft games like DaReaperMan said, and even other Roblox games like Grace which has been delisted not too long ago while researching Pressure. Some creators are bad people or the worst of the worst yes, but you can separate the art from the artist and still have it indexed on the wiki.

It does, because the consequences of it is that assets are removed, VAs are pulling out, game is literally on the verge of deletion. Profile creator of the verse wanted it removed because of the stuff Zeal is doing. You can check it on the Verse Deletion thread, I remember someone bringing it up a few replies back. I hope you can differentiate it going forward from here.

I am only pushing for Pressure to be removed, I don't care about other verses. They can be treated differently in a case-by-case basis, that's not the whole point of this thread because it is only the removal of a single verse.

 

[AthelChan]

lets just add each other on discord and debate the issue, I hope we'll see the truth on court instead of us assessing this case.

 

[Voidnether]

lets just add each other on discord and debate the issue, I hope we'll see the truth on court instead of us assessing this case.

I don't mind this actually like talking about the whole situation and stuff, but the consequences of what happened because of that could be talked here yeah since it's just comprising of assets being deleted and the game being on the verge of deletion. I probably said this like 5 time already, I don't even know why this would still be on the wiki if the profile creator abandoned it anyway and the supporters are nonexistent here

 

[Random-Helper323]

This discussion about the dev is derailing this thread. Let's get back onto the topic.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

The reason why the assets are being removed is irrelevant to the CRT because discussion said reason is unproductive. Even if we decide that the removal was unfair, or for a bad reason, what difference does it make? We can't revert it, so discussing it IS derailment no matter how you see it.

That being said, I'm unsure if the verse should be removed. Does the loss of assets hurts the ability to make more detailed profiles? Are no archives saved that could be used?

 

[Random-Helper323]

This issue is being weighed up here, with a current decision to wait and see. I'd suggest wait like they said. This thread can probably be closed.

Edit: I'm torn between closing this due to the official request and leaving it open in case other arguments are brought forward. For now I'll leave it open.

 

[Voidnether]

The reason why the assets are being removed is irrelevant to the CRT because discussion said reason is unproductive. Even if we decide that the removal was unfair, or for a bad reason, what difference does it make? We can't revert it, so discussing it IS derailment no matter how you see it.

That being said, I'm unsure if the verse should be removed. Does the loss of assets hurts the ability to make more detailed profiles? Are no archives saved that could be used?

Dude, no one is going to make the profiles anymore. The statistics are all guesswork, there are ZERO SCANS and all of the profiles are relying on references. Without that, they'd be as good as gone and we won't even have this discussion. The loss of the assets is that significant, yes not to mention the profile creator is literally asking the verse to be removed because of what happened. You can't go against this, idk what archives if the reason the profile creator was asking the verse to be removed is because it was under the verge of deletion anyway. The three supporters listed on the verse page is nowhere to be seen, and the profile creator proposed it being removed. How would you even go against this?

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Dude, no one is going to make the profiles anymore. The statistics are all guesswork, there are ZERO SCANS and all of the profiles are relying on references. Without that, they'd be as good as gone and we won't even have this discussion. The loss of the assets is that significant, yes not to mention the profile creator is literally asking the verse to be removed because of what happened. You can't go against this, idk what archives if the reason the profile creator was asking the verse to be removed is because it was under the verge of deletion anyway. The three supporters listed on the verse page is nowhere to be seen, and the profile creator proposed it being removed. How would you even go against this?

I don't think the page creator necessarily has any sort of copyright over the pages. I created the Deltarune verse page, do I get to ask for it to be deleted to? Of course not.

Now, if there is truly no interest, and evidence is harder to gather because of the current situation, then yeah, sure, I don't see why they'd be kept.

 

[Voidnether]

I don't think the page creator necessarily has any sort of copyright over the pages. I created the Deltarune verse page, do I get to ask for it to be deleted to? Of course not.

Now, if there is truly no interest, and evidence is harder to gather because of the current situation, then yeah, sure, I don't see why they'd be kept.

The difference is that no one cares about the profiles for the verse anymore other than the page creator, knowing the 3 supporters are nonexistent. There's absolutely zero reason for it to be kept LMFAO because all the stats are guesswork, Powers & Abilities had zero scans whatsoever. You don't have to bring Deltarune to step this low unless you're also saying Deltarune had no one to care about the profiles, the statistics are guesswork and there are zero scans on the Powers & Abilities section. You know this is false equivalence.

It's not evidence being harder to gather, it's that any edits related to the verse is a YEAR AGO, its constantly under the verge of being deleted in 2026. That is the difference.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

The difference is that no one cares about the profiles for the verse anymore other than the page creator, knowing the 3 supporters are nonexistent. There's absolutely zero reason for it to be kept LMFAO because all the stats are guesswork, Powers & Abilities had zero scans whatsoever.

You're just repeating points I already agree with. You need these other points to make the removal plausible. You hammered the fact the creator of the profiles wants it gone (although I'm sure they said they don't care) as a valid reason to be on par with this. That is the only point I contended

You don't have to bring Deltarune to step this low unless you're also saying Deltarune had no one to care about the profiles, the statistics are guesswork and there are zero scans on the Powers & Abilities section.

ludicrous, I merely stated that creating a page, and that alone does not grant anyone copyright over it, and thus, whether or not the creator of the page wants the page deleted is irrelevant to the conversation.

 

[Voidnether]

You're just repeating points I already agree with. You need these other points to make the removal plausible. You hammered the fact the creator of the profiles wants it gone (although I'm sure they said they don't care) as a valid reason to be on par with this. That is the only point I contended

And all those points are enough, genuinely who even cares about the verse anymore atp?

ludicrous, I merely stated that creating a page, and that alone does not grant anyone copyright over it, and thus, whether or not the creator of the page wants the page deleted is irrelevant to the conversation.

The creator of the page always have the rights even if it's not final, you're arguing from increduity going forward. There are so many reasons to get it removed, why would we wait for Pressure to actually be deleted and then we can finally delete the profiles? There is no archiving if the statistics consist of guesswork and zero scans whatsoever, like I said they only rely on references. These are enough grounds to get it deleted especially when assets are being removed too. No one is going to archive this whole mess. It's cooked.

 

[Voidnether]

Also talking about copyright is ironic, because the reason all the assets are removed is because those who created said assets don't wanna be involved with the game and have their stuff on Pressure.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

And all those points are enough, genuinely who even cares about the verse anymore atp?

I don't understand why you're being so performative like I'm trying to stop this thread with all my might. I think the points you made are enough, I contended with one. You're really focusing on the smaller arguments here.

The creator of the page always have the rights even if it's not final, you're arguing from increduity going forward.

They don't. I don't really need to continue engaging with the argument, that is just a false statement. The fact you have a winning argument and you're still fighting for this is questionable, it's pointless.

If there's no archive, interest, assets to gather information and feats, and the pages are poorly made, then yes, I agree Pressure should be removed. You can put me on agree and we can move on from this.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Also talking about copyright is ironic, because the reason all the assets are removed is because those who created said assets don't wanna be involved with the game and have their stuff on Pressure.

Not the same kind of copyright, Void. I'm talking about whether or not a creator of a page in VSBW wiki has rights over the contents of the page, that's a totally different conversation. One which would border on derailment.

 

[Voidnether]

I don't understand why you're being so performative like I'm trying to stop this thread with all my might. I think the points you made are enough, I contended with one. You're really focusing on the smaller arguments here.

They don't. I don't really need to continue engaging with the argument, that is just a false statement. The fact you have a winning argument and you're still fighting for this is questionable, it's pointless.

If there's no archive, interest, assets to gather information and feats, and the pages are poorly made, then yes, I agree Pressure should be removed. You can put me on agree and we can move on from this.

Aight

Not the same kind of copyright, Void. I'm talking about whether or not a creator of a page in VSBW wiki has rights over the contents of the page, that's a totally different conversation. One which would border on derailment.

Fandom has complete rights over the page, obviously, as they can do whatever they want. That being said, couldn't realistically those who own the assets have Fandom remove it since they could file for that in this context lol

Actually, copyright infringement might be the biggest issue here (as in the images would be blank realistically if there's any artists who wanna have their assets removed from the profiles). Unless these are separate, and yeah I am not really sure about it being separate

I have to admit that it boils down to basically too much risk of Pressure being put on the wiki, and it being on the verge of deletion is just a matter of time before it being removed which is to say that no one cares about it anymore. So yeah, I am glad that we could mutually agree on this one despite everything.

 

[Random-Helper323]

And all those points are enough, genuinely who even cares about the verse anymore atp?

Okay, let's calm down here, alright?

The creator of the page always have the rights even if it's not final

The pages don't have to get removed if the person who made them at first wants them gone.

you're arguing from increduity going forward. There are so many reasons to get it removed, why would we wait for Pressure to actually be deleted and then we can finally delete the profiles? There is no archiving if the statistics consist of guesswork and zero scans whatsoever, like I said they only rely on references. These are enough grounds to get it deleted especially when assets are being removed too. No one is going to archive this whole mess. It's cooked.

The statistics rely on a common feat. There is however a problem with the fact it seemingly lacks a scan of the entity performing such a feat. This can be hard to get for some forms of media though.

 

[Voidnether]

Okay, let's calm down here, alright?

The pages don't have to get removed if the person who made them at first wants them gone.

The statistics rely on a common feat. There is however a problem with the fact it seemingly lacks a scan of the entity performing such a feat. This can be hard to get for some forms of media though.

I posted another reply, you might wanna comment on that but the game itself being under the verge of deletion implies that if anyone's gonna put scans, it's going to be from youtube and yeah I'm not like really inclined with keeping the verse based on archives especially if no one cares about it anymore. There won't be any revisions going forward, so it's stuck on a limbo as the future is uncertain. It's different from EoS though.

The reputation this verse had probably prevents most people from even contributing to the verse, so yeah unless anyone is gonna care about it. It has to go.

 

[BreezeHM]

I’m in agreement with deletion.

 

[Lilybitdun]

The game was deleted but then came back


Even if it gets deleted again, it doesn't matter. Verses of inaccessible media are still allowed to exist

It's not like PRESSURE is an extremely niche game where it'll be hard to find pre-existing footage for, should be able to get most necessary scans either on the PRESSURE wiki or youtube vids

Even if an artist's work is pulled from a game, that shouldn't stop us from being able to use the assets. It's under fair use
Even worse case scenario the images are asked to be taken down, unlikely to happen ,and we just use whatever new designs are gonna come out

The only worrying thing might be lack of supporters in the future but it's not like the verse profiles are in such a state of disarray where they need immediate revisions. Like I mentioned before the state of the profiles are being massively oversold, they aren't even bad

Most of the arguments have been about still ongoing drama that has literally no relation to if it's fine for us to index it or not
Still wholeheartedly disagree with the premise of this thread

 

[Kellex]

knowing the 3 supporters are nonexistent.

They are still very much here. In fact, one of them made a comment in the previous page:

RIP pressure, i dont think the verse should be delated, the characters are fine to use

Also from Comiphorous in the previous page:

As a former pressure supporter (stopped after the zeal shit), I don’t care about it. I’d actually prefer if it was deleted, but it technically isn’t breaking any rules so whatever!!! It can technically stay, nobody would be updating them though.

I am no longer making ANY changes to the profiles, and will not be updating them EVER. So it’s more or less abandoned unless someone else picks up the slack I left.

 

[Voidnether]

The game was deleted but then came back


Even if it gets deleted again, it doesn't matter. Verses of inaccessible media are still allowed to exist

It's not like PRESSURE is an extremely niche game where it'll be hard to find pre-existing footage for, should be able to get most necessary scans either on the PRESSURE wiki or youtube vids

Even if an artist's work is pulled from a game, that shouldn't stop us from being able to use the assets. It's under fair use
Even worse case scenario the images are asked to be taken down, unlikely to happen ,and we just use whatever new designs are gonna come out

The only worrying thing might be lack of supporters in the future but it's not like the verse profiles are in such a state of disarray where they need immediate revisions. Like I mentioned before the state of the profiles are being massively oversold, they aren't even bad

Most of the arguments have been about still ongoing drama that has literally no relation to if it's fine for us to index it or not
Still wholeheartedly disagree with the premise of this thread

Problem is that there's no new designs that's going to come out, because again the future of the verse is not certain. I don't know how you interpreted it as to "ongoing drama" when the reasons for it being deleted comes from the consequence of said stuff revolving Pressure.

Sorry, but I cannot be convinced since the lack of supporters stuff is a thing that will continue for months, and even years because no one wants to be associated with the game itself. The profiles are well-made yes, but that doesn't change the statistics being guesswork and the Powers & Abilities section having zero scans and they only rely on references. No one is gonna fix this since this is the current situation of the profiles since a year ago and the game possibly being archived.

 

[Voidnether]

They are still very much here. In fact, one of them made a comment in the previous page:

Also from Comiphorous in the previous page:

If that was what he actually said (I probably didn't read that correctly b4 since I just woke up), I mean I'd still prefer a deletion but yeah who's to say that if the game is deleted that anyone would still care about the verse. Well, the profiles have always been like this from a year ago. I honestly just don't wanna risk this staying on the wiki as no one's updating them anyway. It is polished, but it doesn't change that from a year ago these are only relying on references and no scans or actual justifications on the stats other than it being guesswork

 

[StrymULTRA]

Y'all idiots are genuinely atonishing.

I don't know what the **** a Pressure is, but all of the supposed evil the author(s) did is genuinely irrelevant. We feature a game made from YANDEV (and I think that's self explanatory if you do not live under a rock), so why is the author being bad relevant here?

Ayano Aishi

Ayano Aishi, also known as "Yandere-chan," is a cold, obsessive, and emotionally detached individual who becomes singularly fixated on her crush, Taro or "Senpai". Born without the ability to feel emotions, she discovers that being near Taro is the only way to bring her happiness, driving her to...

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[Voidnether]

Y'all idiots are genuinely atonishing.

I don't know what the **** a Pressure is, but all of the supposed evil the author(s) did is genuinely irrelevant. We feature a game made from YANDEV (and I think that's self explanatory if you do not live under a rock), so why is the author being bad relevant here?

Ayano Aishi

Ayano Aishi, also known as "Yandere-chan," is a cold, obsessive, and emotionally detached individual who becomes singularly fixated on her crush, Taro or "Senpai". Born without the ability to feel emotions, she discovers that being near Taro is the only way to bring her happiness, driving her to...

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Because no one cares about the profiles anymore? No one wants to be associated with the verse? The verse being a guesswork in statistics since a year ago, and Powers & Abilities having zero scans whatsoever that only relies on references? This game possibly being archived since it was under the verge of deletion? You gotta read like the entire thread bro

 

[StrymULTRA]

Because no one cares about the profiles anymore? No one wants to be associated with the verse? The verse being a guesswork in statistics since a year ago, and Powers & Abilities having zero scans whatsoever that only relies on references? This game possibly being archived since it was under the verge of deletion? You gotta read like the entire thread bro

Considering that more than half of the discussion is about whether SA was being committed, I think that what I said is indeed appropriate.

 

[Kellex]

YANDEV

Yandere Simulator

stealing my comments I see I agree tho.

 

[Voidnether]

Considering that more than half of the discussion is about whether SA was being committed, I think that what I said is indeed appropriate.

The reason this verse is going to be deleted, and why I proposed so is actually from the consequences of the stuff I bolded above.

That one sentence leads to no one wanting to associate themselves with Pressure, the profile creator gave up and won't care about the verse anymore because of what the "Author" is doing. Supporters are nonexistent, and I don't have anyone convincing me that they're gonna associate themselves with this verse and fix it. Whilst the profiles are polished, it's honestly a mess still and I bet you no one's gonna revise this stuff since the profiles condition being like this is actually from a year ago before all this stuff revolving Pressure happened. That ONE SENTENCE leads to the content of the verse being archived or not because the game is on the verge of deletion in Roblox still, this is the main point of the thread.

 

[Lilybitdun]

Goddamn I'm trying to type a response but there's a new message every trillionth of a nanosecond

 

[Voidnether]

Look, I'm not against the entire verse being deleted and that it cannot be added back. But I am saying that y'all are free to add this verse back after the deletion assuming they updated the game still and have actual justifications on the statistics and scans on the Powers & Abilities, y'all are free to put the current profiles somewhere on a sandbox but like I am not seeing anyone that wants to associate themselves with this verse still. Lack of supporters being an issue is because no one wants to associate themselves because of the stuff revolving the game. That's it, obviously Tokyo Revengers as a verse is definitely worse than Pressure but still the consequences that Pressure as a verse gets because of the creator of the game is still something worthy considered since it affects the entire verse.

It risks the possibility of the verse relying on archived materials, everyone don't want to get involved with the verse so no one's fixing it. It's really that terrible, unless anyone could come out and say "yeah im associating myself with Pressure and ill fix the verse"

 

[Lilybitdun]

Y'all idiots are genuinely atonishing.

I don't know what the **** a Pressure is, but all of the supposed evil the author(s) did is genuinely irrelevant. We feature a game made from YANDEV (and I think that's self explanatory if you do not live under a rock), so why is the author being bad relevant here?

Ayano Aishi

Ayano Aishi, also known as "Yandere-chan," is a cold, obsessive, and emotionally detached individual who becomes singularly fixated on her crush, Taro or "Senpai". Born without the ability to feel emotions, she discovers that being near Taro is the only way to bring her happiness, driving her to...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Yeah that's what I said lol

Look, I'm not against the entire verse being deleted and that it cannot be added back. But I am saying that y'all are free to add this verse back after the deletion assuming they updated the game still and have actual justifications on the statistics and scans on the Powers & Abilities, y'all are free to put the current profiles somewhere on a sandbox but like I am not seeing anyone that wants to associate themselves with this verse still. Lack of supporters being an issue is because no one wants to associate themselves because of the stuff revolving the game. That's it, obviously Tokyo Revengers as a verse is definitely worse than Pressure but still the consequences that Pressure as a verse gets because of the creator of the game is still something worthy considered since it affects the entire verse.

Deletion is overkill and is always used as a last resort

Literally this scan problem can be solved with just a Wiki Page Collaborations thread or someone spending their free time collecting scans to make a CRT

Hell I'll volunteer myself if I need to

Don't get why TR is suddenly getting brought up when PRESSURE is literally nowhere near in a state of disarray than it

Assuming no one ever will want to associate with this game again due to drama is just an assumption
As it's been pointed out multiple times, verses with controversial authors aren't suddenly deletion worthy

 

[Voidnether]

Hell I'll volunteer myself if I need to

Then do it if you wish to associate with this verse, because like the profile creator originally said that no one's gonna update the verse anymore or work on it. I hope you know that. Feel free to do so, but yeah deletion is still definitely an option unless you actually contributed to the verse and fix everything wrong with the verse. Not that I'm associating myself with it though.