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NON TOURNAMENT MATCH: Halibel vs Kamen Rider Glare (3 DAYS Deadline for matches PASSED & Both parties agreed on incon)

First of all, the statements came from official sources. If you're stating that they can't use it on the account of them being not from Toei thensel or any affiliates, then fine. But these spec scans are as legit as they come, and saying they're unusable or something is just disingenuous.
Secondly, we wouldn't be saying or bringing up these funny ass feats and scans if the Riders can't even use it in the first place. I even remembered linking them countering literal time erasure here. Is that conveniently gone from the equation?

If need be, fine, I'm gonna scour for more scans, but the fact that I've proven most of what me and my peers have said compared to the opposition is speaking volumes.
It seems you missed my point completely. If the ability isn't on his or any of the other profiles Glare chain scales off of then don't use. The other is me saying the precog feats shouldn't be used to prove combat ability if they aren't shown actually using the precognition in combat (I didn't devour every scan you sent for the record so I don't know if they do use it).

On another note, what's all this about 4D tech? Is it just range or is the tech actually 4 dimensional or it has 4 dimensional capabilities? If it's anything other than the 2nd one, I don't see what stops deadspot from actually destroying it. Powernull seems to be the result of the technique (destroying something) not an actual ability so it shouldn't need proof of that in my opinion
 
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Firstly, that 3-day limitation was for if there's no response in the thread itself.
I need to continue the tournament. 3 days is seems like final cut off deadline for me.
I think most people have given better constructive arguments.
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I need to continue the tournament. 3 days is seems like final cut off deadline for me.
I think most people have given better constructive arguments.
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??????
It's literally right there.
DECIDING A WINNER
WHEN THE THREAD REACHES A VALID VOTE COUNT, A GRACE PERIOD OF 24 HOURS IS NEEDED.
Yes, you can continue your tournament but the grace period still has to be acknowledged and respected.
Especially when there's still more matches to be made.
 
??????
It's literally right there.
DECIDING A WINNER
WHEN THE THREAD REACHES A VALID VOTE COUNT, A GRACE PERIOD OF 24 HOURS IS NEEDED.
Yes, you can continue your tournament but the grace period still has to be acknowledged and respected.
Especially when there's still more matches to be made.
i'm waiting for 24 hours. Then next match will begin
 
while we are waiting, what are y'all's favorite food
Naturally, my palate finds its truest delight in a delicately seared duck à l’orange, plated with an elegance that borders on poetry; c’est la haute cuisine, after all, even if I’m mostly here for the sauce and pretending I understand the wine pairing.
 
If the ability isn't on his or any of the other profiles Glare chain scales off of then don't use
Almost all of the Zero One riders have precognition on their profiles. Their fighting style is literally built around calculations and predictions. The abilities and skill stuff Ixa mentioned for Saber riders are also on their profiles. Geats and Glare chain-scale off them.
if they aren't shown actually using the precognition in combat
01 riders do, literally all the time. So do Saber riders.
 
grace has been resetted now i'm gonna play devil's advocate and wait patiently wait to see where this thread goes.
 
New conclusion since grace has been resettted:
If both character votes remain 9-8 or 9-9 and or something similar and a decisive winner is not found i will get do a Coin Flip to see who advances.
This will take place after next 3 hours from now.

OUT DATED check new conclusion
here
 
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New conclusion since grace has been resettted:
If both character votes remain 9-8 or 9-9 and or something similar and a decisive winner is not found i will get do a Coin Flip to see who advances.
This will take place after next 3 hours from now.
actually both characters would be removed from the tournament.

I actually knew that this would happen, so I made sure to make a backup version of the tournament, where brackets remain the same as they are and these two characters are removed.
 
Excuse me what?
This... is a shitshow. All this could've been avoided if you had just eliminated both characters early on when both sides are being called out for infringing the tiersetter. Jeez Louise.

Verdict is casted, so I'm hereby done. **** it.
 
Excuse me what?
duhhb
This... is a shitshow. All this could've been avoided if you had just eliminated both characters early on when both sides are being called out for infringing the tiersetter. Jeez Louise.

Verdict is casted, so I'm hereby done. **** it.
everything remains the same only these two are removed from the brackets
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Reason: 3 days+ extended time period and no decisive winner found.
 
Excuse me what?
This... is a shitshow. All this could've been avoided if you had just eliminated both characters early on when both sides are being called out for infringing the tiersetter. Jeez Louise.

Verdict is casted, so I'm hereby done. **** it.
A highkey insane thing to say when youre the person doing the infringing in the first place
 
while we are waiting, what are y'all's favorite food
Rule expansion:
In case where matches are stuck for 3 days and 6+ hours time period and votes are 9-9 or 10-9 with constant FRA train and both parties are not able to come to a conclusion. I would have to remove them from the tournament (either they agree to be removed or both agree to make their match incon and take the Coinflip route).


Are you both willing to agree on making this match incon, shake hands maybe cuddle a little too so i can proceed with incon route with coin clip? or direct removal.
 
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While I'm pissed at the fact that I wasn't immediately disqualified right from the get go and this had to be dragged, I guess I'll just allow myself to be removed from the roster. Not like Shock Rock actually wins against him 51% of the time in the first place anyways. Although, I will just say to actually enforce this tiersetter instead of dragging a match to become a match of all time like this one. That's just disingenuous.

A highkey insane thing to say when youre the person doing the infringing in the first place
Bold to assume I don't already know I'm also part of the problem. I don't mind being disqualified in the end.
 
Why is five page long debate ending in an inconclusive considered bad for both parties?
If anything this is a pretty good solution you both are great debaters and you both pretty much gave your heart and soul for this match in order to win.

considering the fact that both of the sides have solid arguments regarding the skill of their characters and the utilization of instinctive reaction and perception with recognition skills.

based off of all of this information there is no shame whatsoever in accepting it in conclusive by the participants of both parties.
If they wish to continue the tournament then after 3 days and 10 hours. Then they're still given upwards up to 25 to 30 more minutes and have people from both sides switch to incon.

If they don't want to do that then they can ask for direct removal with something shadow has already done. And I don't get why this decision is upsetting him so much. This was a good debate 🔥
When it comes to actual debates between individuals in a professional setting let's just say on a game show or television show, there's actually a middle party known as the arbitrator.

And it's their duty to either make both of the parties come to a solution by agreeing on something or leaving the debate all together.
So I here am playing a pretty good role in that middleman character.

I presented multiple routes for you people and if the one you want to choose and if exiting from the tournament is what you guys wanna do then you have all the right in the world to do so.
 
it aint this serious man, chill out
Damn our posts are left unread, there are so many signs and the posts in retaliation to mine are definitely not regurgitating the very same points that came from our posts not being read with the correct media literacy... But I can't tell how...
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Right out the gates, and we have a pot calling the kettle black comment?
Let's see... Unlike you and your goons, I made sure to:
  • Pay back my argument debts and made sure to retread through every post (even if they're just saying the same thing and I have to provide the same answers)
  • Ixa showed scans from the official pages which are translated btw and Mina (despite the disinterest) pointed out their validity.

In response, your lot failed to:
  • address this entire post which includes:
    • Being unable to provide whatever tf Valga's Stratagem even is, and why it should be counted as tech
its a metia (magic machines), that can shoot an AoE that can wipe out a city, it was acquired from valga cromwell after the demon beast war
    • Failing to provide proof Halibel can null 4-D Tech (which is an entire ballpark from the normal 3-D tech)
as mentioned above, what do you mean when you say 4D Tech, is it made up of 4D material? does it have 4D capabilities? if so can you prove it.
    • Insisting that Deadspot has some sort of death hax on it when the profile specifically states that it's only there for powernull (also failing to prove its death hax in the first place)
it has one shot capabilities; normal zombies cannot be killed by physical attacks but Halibel can kill them by using his deadspot
    • Failing to respond to Glare's workaround for the Shikamaru Shadow Manip
you mean the floating balls which will never be able to hit halibel due to being ranged?
      • Bonus Question: Glare can float upwards and perch himself in the air. How does his Shadow manipulation account for that (the forcefields cast no shadow so that's out of the question)
Halibel can easily fight in the air, and if he is paralysed he wouldn't be able to fly away anyway
  • Failing to prove he can stealth from an interdimensional radar
I have never been arguing for Halibel being able to stealth, he doesn't even need to against him
  • Being unable to prove Halibel's clones being used with real blood, meat and bones when the LN scan states that it's "on par"
  • Unable to counter the scan statements beyond saying "this scan comes from csap" or whatever bullshit
    • I will find suitable workarounds for ones that are mtl, however.
why would i counter something that you proved? like okay man, congrats, you proved that the scans you have been posting from the beginning aren't completely fraudulent. They are still not on the profiles and btw, I haven't mentioned this before but typically skillscaling with characters requires proof that they actually have a connection, there are a lot of ways for a character to defeat a skilled character without being skilled themselves. In Re:Zero, we have the flow method to connect everybody.

Having precog and not being able to deal with the counter is still a thing, Halibel will always choose the correct option meanwhile glare even with his precog would have to choose an option that could be correct or incorrect. Even a little child will be able to figure out how this interaction is gonna go.
Also, Fate is law of the world, huh? Passive Law manip resistance from Kamen Rider Physiology goes brrrrrr.
i hope you're joking, nitpicking one part of an ability to say you resist it all? i haven't seen a better example of fallacy of composition before
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Yea, where are they? Also Valga's profile is barren lol.
Sure, a few of our scans don't come from any profiles, but 90% do, just that they're scattered or have their OG scans dead-linked. These info can still be found in their respective profiles that I think Ixa linked.
Read: Poorly maintained, outdated and not valid anymore.
Also prove these things for me:

  • Fate being actually precog beyond it just being a throwaway line in that one scan about alderberan, and just being backseat gaming by the world
    • Fate intuition between two people with this same ability
If you mean two intuition users fighting then the best example would be Reinhard vs Cecilus, the man most loved by the world vs the star of the stage. Reinhard is loved more by the world and has never been defeated by cecilus even after they have clashed multiple times.

Then actually making a crt about it lol.
its ironic you mention this because (skip the next response)
Can't be sadder than failing to prove what you say in your posts. Can't be sadder than failing to actually respond to my arguments adequately with scans and proof.
self report and projecting is wild
The fact that none of you actually read anything is evident here. The posts about skillslop transitioned from analytical prediction to actual ******* precog a gazillion years ago, yet you're still stuck in the dinosaur age trying to talk about AnPr when Kamen Rider skillslop is built around actual divination precog which is >>>> AnPr in the first place. Yhwach is actively shown to change fate while Gotrek's fate is set in stone and blatant. Rezero fate is just vague terms for PIS masquerading as an actual ability anyway.
uh huh, yet i dont see precog on his profile.
Which is a fundamental problem for Halibel since his real body can be found as clear as day. Also prove he's able to produce more than 4 clones lol. Spamming clones is nothing if he can't go over 4 clones and his real body can be sniped or ****** in the first place.
how many times do i need to tell you this? he can dodge physically impossible to dodge attacks, you can't hit him with a ranged attack.
It's not gonna last long before Glare gets his hands on Halibel and explode him or subjugate him under his control but you clearly ain't ready for that talk since you can't even prove me wrong beyond regurgitating word salads 🥱
Halibel can just melt into the shadows, swap himself with a clone, or just not let him get close by keeping him engaged with clones. He did probably kill him in the first few interactions though which is something i am sure you aren't ready to listen

Like unironically, this fight wont last long enough for KRG to pull out most of his stuff

Me when my 5 balls on my armor can fight autonomously. Prove he can actually pull a Shikamaru and paralyse more than one object.
the 5 balls detaching themselves only to realize glare is long dead after getting one shotted instantly post-paralysation
Prove he can dodge an explosion while inside one.
Self report again, i already explained this one
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So you weren't reading my arguments then? i already answered this on page 2. Self report x2

I will add it at the end of this for your convienience (not like you are gonna read it anyway)

Me when this kind of skillslop is bottom of the barrel in the Kamen Rider skill chain.
dont see it there but its bottom of the barrel in rz too so doesn't really change much
The fact that you add these comments lead me to believe this is bias af lol.


The fact that you add these comments lead me to believe this is bias af lol.
You literally did it in your post. Self report x3
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this isnt explicit enough to say that he "Dodged" the explosions while being inside of it. This could just be him tanking it or the explosion missing him entirely, as we see in the clip the explosions happened around him not on him.

compare this to Elsa, who dodged a room blowing up, without exiting it. this is much more concrete, than that clip since it is clear that the explosions somehow did not manage to hit her regardless of the fact that the entire room blew up, leaving no physical space to dodge it.

Elsa is an eternity below Theresia who is inferior to Halibel, so even if you want to compare that he did be inferior to halibel but this isnt needed either because Elsa is superior in this too. Any attacks she sees once wont work on her twice, even if its a danmaku afterwards. The quantity becomes irrelevant.
 
can i add a different character instead then? (that does lose to Shockrock)
i thought hannibel does lose to shock rock 3rd key.
It would be dishonest of me to kick shadow and take you with a new character.

I'd have to redo "this exact match" then with two completely new characters.

so you & @Shadowslash125 right now needs to agree on

1- making this match incon (to take coin flip route)

2- both exit

3- both chooses brand new characters. This match get's redone.
 
i thought hannibel does lose to shock rock 3rd key.
i did say so but some people disagree
It would be dishonest of me to kick shadow and take you with a new character.

I'd have to redo "this exact match" then with two completely new characters.

so you are @Shadowslash125 right now needs to agree on

1- making this match incon (to take coin flip route)

2- both exit

3- both chooses brand new characters. This match get's redone.
tbf i did get a conclusive victory within the time range, the votes were 6 to 9 (lol) and the votes came after that, by technicality i should get the win, no?
 
tbf i did get a conclusive victory within the time range, the votes were 6 to 9 (lol) and the votes came after that, by technicality i should get the win, no?
unfortunately no, there is heavy arguments from both sides with several votes to the point where after you got 6 to 9 immediately after that more votes came in. Due to vote rules I can't just block those votes that would be unfair.

So you still have three options above
 
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