Attack Titan vs No. 1 USA Hero

[GodEarh206]

Eren Yeager vs Homelander
Rule:
• SBA was used
• "Post-Timeskip (Season 4)" Eren was used
• 8-A Key Homelander was used
• Battle took in Valhalla (Record of Ragnarok)
• Speed was Equalized

Freedom Guy: @Doggo, @AyOgUyS, @Mommyleona, @WeeklyBattles
Mama Guy: @Fallen_Angelicx, @ShionAH, @DavidTPPM, @Ruby_R_Dracula, @Hecky2222, @Bruhtelho, @ThePrimalHunter
Together they destroyed the world:

 

[Doggo]

Eren is not only more skilled, but he also has higher regen and much greater LS, so one grab is over. The issue is, HL would lowkey consider zoning out a 16m beast instead of doing close quarters. But Eren can catch him off guard by using the Warhammer's powers

 

[AyOgUyS]

Voting Eren FRA due to Doggo's arguments, H*melander is a SORRY BUM

 

[Mommyleona]

My goat got this

 

[Doggo]

I'm also going to point out that HL's heat vision and Eren's warhammer powers share the same range, so even with flight, HL has to put himself within Eren's range to range spam.

 

[GodEarh206]

Bump

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I'm pretty sure you could make Homelander both bloodlusted and give him prior knowledge on the entirety of Eren's kit and he'd still get absolutely clobbered by Eren.

 

[Doggo]

Eren FRA

 

[GodEarh206]

Bump

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Anime MC that is overhated for no reason (Eren) FRA

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Homelander FRA. I got hope in his flight and heat vision. Lowk burning through this man

 

[Doggo]

Homelander FRA. I got hope in his flight and heat vision. Lowk burning through this man

No one above argued for Homelander tho? So your vote is invalid due to improper reasoning.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

No one above argued for Homelander tho? So your vote is invalid due to improper reasoning.

I'll restate. I'm voting Homelander due to Flight and Heat Vision. His 3500°+ beams will split and burn/scorch anything in Erens Arsenal including his Titan Body (He's slicing his through his Titan and human body with no difficulty) His flight enables him to simply snipe him down from high up or anywhere at the matter. And I believe without the downplay he can do that. The Battle ends in 5 seconds with his heat. So my vote goes to Homey.

 

[Doggo]

I'll restate. I'm voting Homelander due to Flight and Heat Vision. His 3500°+ beams will split and burn/scorch anything in Erens Arsenal including his Titan Body (He's slicing his through his Titan and human body with no difficulty) His flight enables him to simply snipe him down from high up or anywhere at the matter. And I believe without the downplay he can do that. The Battle ends in 5 seconds with his heat. So my vote goes to Homey.

Homelander's beam has the same range as Eren's Warhammer spikes, meaning he will be within the range of getting bisected or impaled in order to use his heat vision. Never mind the fact that Eren can summon multiple of these spikes compared to HL shooting two beams. You are also ignoring the sheer mass Eren has; even with extreme heat, Homelander's lasers will still take some time melting through his body like that.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Homelander's beam has the same range as Eren's Warhammer spikes, meaning he will be within the range of getting bisected or impaled in order to use his heat vision

There's a big difference between Eren's Arsenal and Homelander's Heat Vison. One is sharp objects discharged as a projectiles from a upward point (Because Homelander isn't your ususal Land Base Titan) that should moves at the same speed Homelander flies while the other is a Beam that fires from his eyes moves in a straight line into the direction he looks. They are NOT the same. Homey can easily dodge these attacks by simply having better mobility; True Flight. Are we forgetting Homelander isn't a mobile target and can fly? This makes him infinitely more challenging of a character to hit when accounting the SIZE SCALE aswell. I fully believe that Eren will not be able to catch Homelander with his spikes because of his better mobility. Eren has NEVER fought someone who can fly, as we can see in his Founding Titan form. He tried sniping the Flying Beast Titan with spikes and it didn't work or hit. The Scale in size here in comparison to Both Homelander and the Beast Titan aswell as their free mobility in air is Immense. Bro isn't getting hit once if he doesn't want to. Homelander's True Flighg enables him to fly to space, cmon now.

Never mind the fact that Eren can summon multiple of these spikes compared to HL shooting two beams

The beams operate based on where he looks. Meaning if he looks at Eren, he has a greater accuracy standpoint than whatever Eren's got in his Weaponry. His only weapon of choice will be the Warhammer's ability which he can't use forever while Homelander on the other hand can spam. Not the same and a non defeater.

You are also ignoring the sheer mass Eren has

Excuse me... Did you just say size? The 15 meter tall guy vs a 5'11 Human Being that freely moves within air at the same speed and shoots lasers from his eyes? The size difference doesn't make up and hilarious so puts Eren at a disadvantage. This match will be the equivalent of a Human trying to Catch a fly in Air Eren being a big target makes Heat Vison 200% more easier to hit than it being an advantage for Eren. His opponent also has the ability to fly to space.

even with extreme heat, Homelander's lasers will still take some time melting through his body like that.

Wrong. The Heat difference between Eren's heat resistance which is a couple hundred Degrees vs Homelander's whopping & upscaling 3500+° is NOT something that will take time.... Lava which is 3x cooler than his Heat Vision Melts Flesh in Milliseconds upon contact. The moment this beam touches Eren, its going through Flesh, Bone and Matter.


Please do put my vote down for Homelander. Your points do not invalidate what's here. It is evident that these are valid wincons, and I disagree with your reasoning opinion for why they wouldn't be substantial. Homelander flies and has Heat Vision that skyrockets through any heat resistance Eren has, these are not opinions but facts. I impede that nothing else will convince me based on knowing these exist, Eren clearly has no even ground for better mobility (Flight) and way to attack extensive to the Warhammer's ability (WHICH Cannot be used for long periods)

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

In summary, I don't see any reason why Homelander can't just dodge Eren's shtick he can't do forever with Flight. Grabbing him is kinda out of question when your opponent flies aswell. Eren being big makes Heat Vison hit 99% of the time. And once heat vision hits Eren its over, because its incacipating him immediately by slicing him in half. Chances are, the Heat vison reaches his nape area and slices his human body in half too. Count my vote.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

following, not voting yet, but leaning towards Homie cuz of Fallen's Args and cuz I hate Eren

 

[Doggo]

There's a big difference between Eren's Arsenal and Homelander's Heat Vison. One is sharp objects discharged as a projectiles from a upward point (Because Homelander isn't your ususal Land Base Titan) that should moves at the same speed Homelander flies while the other is a Beam that fires from his eyes moves in a straight line into the direction he looks. They are NOT the same. Homey can easily dodge these attacks by simply having better mobility; True Flight. Are we forgetting Homelander isn't a mobile target and can fly? This makes him infinitely more challenging of a character to hit when accounting the SIZE SCALE aswell. I fully believe that Eren will not be able to catch Homelander with his spikes because of his better mobility. Eren has NEVER fought someone who can fly, as we can see in his Founding Titan form. He tried sniping the Flying Beast Titan with spikes and it didn't work or hit. The Scale in size here in comparison to Both Homelander and the Beast Titan aswell as their free mobility in air is Immense. Bro isn't getting hit once if he doesn't want to. Homelander's True Flighg enables him to fly to space, cmon now.

The issue is, Eren is firing multiple of these spikes; the idea of Homelander dodging multiple seems silly even with flight since he isn't remotely skilled compared to Eren. Eren also does not spam at first; he uses the spikes first when the enemy is off-guard, like in his 2v1 against Reiner and Porco. His first usage was sudden when they thought they had the advantage over him. Homelander would not only be surprised at first, even if he did dodge Eren's initial surprise attack, but he won't easily be able to dodge multiple of them at once. Regarding your point about the Beast and Flying titan, Falco was way too far so he had a lot of time to dodge, Homelander does not have that luxury when he is fighting within tens of meters of range. Zeke was also firing several rocks at once, which is better than two lasers. That's a skill feat for Falco and I doubt Homelander can evade multiple projectiles at once like him.


Also about you point with Homelander's heat, Eren's profile mentions him resisting the Collosal titan's heat, whose steam can melt humans very quickly. Eren could partially survive the Collosal's explosion and scales to Reiner surviving it himself, said blast can melt through a massive chunk of land, which is visually hotter than what Homalander can produce

Eren tanks the heat, especially with hardening.


Now, while it's true the warhammer's spikes are limited to Eren's stamina, he can still use them for extensive periods. His fight with Reiner and Porco lasted for probably 30-60 minutes. At the very least, he has enough stamina to kill Homelander before he runs out of juice. He is also smart enough to conserve stamina instead of spamming and wasting it.

I also want to point out Homelander's arrogance; he is also the type to charge directly at Eren out of impulse which leads to him getting LS diff.

 

[Doggo]

Please do put my vote down for Homelander. Your points do not invalidate what's here. It is evident that these are valid wincons, and I disagree with your reasoning opinion for why they wouldn't be substantial. Homelander flies and has Heat Vision that skyrockets through any heat resistance Eren has, these are not opinions but facts. I impede that nothing else will convince me based on knowing these exist, Eren clearly has no even ground for better mobility (Flight) and way to attack extensive to the Warhammer's ability (WHICH Cannot be used for long periods)

I only invalidated your initial vote because you said "Homelander FRA" when no one was arguing for Homelander. Now that you've made your argument, there is no more issue.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

The issue is, Eren is firing multiple of these spikes; the idea of Homelander dodging multiple seems silly even with flight since he isn't remotely skilled compared to Eren

Incorrect on different levels. Homelander has been flying since he was a child. He has far more experience in air than Eren living his whole life. He IS that skilled with his flight ability.

Eren also does not spam at first; he uses the spikes first when the enemy is off-guard, like in his 2v1 against Reiner and Porco

All I see is humans struggling on land. What i remember is them getting spiked through the ground. My guy, Homelander is in mid air. All his attacks HAVE to be projectiles (Such as the crossbow Lara Tylbur used). And we're forgetting Homelander can simply deflect, destroy or heat vison these "Projectiles" and with ease at that. Non defeater.

His first usage was sudden when they thought they had the advantage over him.

So very amazing because Eren's opponent does not have to get up close and personal to do damage like they did.

Also about you point with Homelander's heat, Eren's profile mentions him resisting the Collosal titan's heat, whose steam can melt humans very quickly. Eren could partially survive the Collosal's explosion and scales to Reiner surviving it himself, said blast can melt through a massive chunk of land, which is visually hotter than what Homalander can produce

This is so incredibly crazy because you're implying the same heat used to steam humans Scale to the explosion output of the Collasal Titan which is obviously and evidently not true. That's also not how it works. Explosion's are hottest are epicenter, you cannot give me a definite heat number or what Reiner 'supposedly' survived while i can with Homelander's heat vison. Explosions produce heat, Explosions are not heat. Thermal Energy is the cause of the Colassal Titan's devastation. Not what you suggested. Another non defeater and doesn't debunk Eren getting split in half. And if you so do prove it, Prove Reiner with ARMOR, scales to the Heat withstanding ability of Eren for me. Their Titans aren't inherently comparable in that case, We see the Cart Titan being actively burnt by normal flames unless you want to substantiate all titans have the same heat resistance with the infinitely anti feats I have to debunk that. Rod Reese's Titan's heat for example is a couple hundred Degrees (300 I believe) for burning wood and is capable of burning eren to a crisp

Now, while it's true the warhammer's spikes are limited to Eren's stamina, he can still use them for extensive periods. His fight with Reiner and Porco lasted for probably 30-60 minutes. At the very least, he has enough stamina to kill Homelander before he runs out of juice. He is also smart enough to conserve stamina instead of spamming and wasting it.

Doesn't happen before Homelander beams him ONCE down which takes less than a second. Homelander is a pretty small nimble flying object, not only can he evade these attacks by flying high up or anywhere and say mock him but destroy them rather easily if needed. Again Homelander's flight is so good that he can fly to space, he has no grounded limitations like Eren. Eren also does not scale to the Beast Titan's flying capabilities nor has he fought a flying opponent before. You guys really think projectiles that moves at the same speed are hitting someone who flies. Not only that, but the belief that stratergy outplays Eren getting beamed down and dying instantly (You guys are incredibly underestimating his True flight capabilities)

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

I also want to point out Homelander's arrogance; he is also the type to charge directly at Eren out of impulse which leads to him getting LS diff.

Rather than Arrogance, I believe Homelander's Anger will be triggered in this fight knowing his own impulse when Eren refuses to die, which leads him into getting Heat Vision'd to death.

I only invalidated your initial vote because you said "Homelander FRA" when no one was arguing for Homelander. Now that you've made your argument, there is no more issue.

Ok

 

[Doggo]

Incorrect on different levels. Homelander has been flying since he was a child. He has far more experience in air than Eren living his whole life. He IS that skilled with his flight ability.

Experience does not equate skill. Homelander can fly high, sure, but you need evidence that he is skilled enough to evade several projectiles at once. I'm not questioning his flight, I'm questioning his ability to dodge damaku

All I see is humans struggling on land. What i remember is them getting spiked through the ground. My guy, Homelander is in mid air. All his attacks HAVE to be projectiles (Such as the crossbow Lara Tylbur used). And we're forgetting Homelander can simply deflect, destroy or heat vison these "Projectiles" and with ease at that. Non defeater.

You miss the point, then. His heat vision shares the same range as Eren's spikes, meaning even in mid-air, he would still be within range to be stabbed. He isn't destroying them easily. Those are massive chunks of crystal that can already endure extreme heat. I doubt he instantly melts down spikes that are larger than his body, especially when they scale to Reiner's skin, withstanding the Colossal's heat.

So very amazing because Eren's opponent does not have to get up close and personal to do damage like they did.

You missed the point again. My argument was that he only uses the spikes first when Homelander least expects it. Homelander would be in range for him to be impaled. You are ignoring the range both characters have here.

This is so incredibly crazy because you're implying the same heat used to steam humans Scale to the explosion output of the Collasal Titan which is obviously and evidently not true. That's also not how it works. Explosion's are hottest are epicenter, you cannot give me a definite heat number or what Reiner 'supposedly' survived while i can with Homelander's heat vison. Explosions produce heat, Explosions are not heat. Thermal Energy is the cause of the Colassal Titan's devastation. Not what you suggested. Another non defeater and doesn't debunk Eren getting split in half. And if you so do prove it, Prove Reiner with ARMOR, scales to the Heat withstanding ability of Eren for me. Their Titans aren't inherently comparable in that case, We see the Cart Titan being actively burnt by normal flames unless you want to substantiate all titans have the same heat resistance with the infinitely anti feats I have to debunk that. Rod Reese's Titan's heat for example is a couple hundred Degrees (300 I believe) for burning wood and is capable of burning eren to a crisp

Ok? Here, Reiner is rather close when Armin went boom, and here is Reiner again enduring the heat with his body and surroundings clearly scorched, indicating he withstood the blast. Eren even endures the heat himself, btw


The heat Armin produced in the Marley Port scene is way beyond what Homelander can do, given that it melted a decent chunk of land.

Explosions produce heat, Explosions are not heat.

Ummm.....your point? He tanked the explosion...said explosion produces heat....therefore he tanked the heat.....

This also does not debunk Eren withstanding the steam, which is not an explosion lol

Doesn't happen before Homelander beams him ONCE down which takes less than a second. Homelander is a pretty small nimble flying object, not only can he evade these attacks by flying high up or anywhere and say mock him but destroy them rather easily if needed. Again Homelander's flight is so good that he can fly to space, he has no grounded limitations like Eren. Er

Flying to space means nothing. That is only a feat for how far he can fly, which is irrelevant because again, and I need to reiterate because you keep ignoring this, Homelander's lasers are listed as having a range of tens of meters, the same as Eren's spikes. He would need to be within Eren's range to use his heat vision.


Also, flying high does not prove he can dodge multiple projectiles; at best, he flies above their range, but he needs to go back to use heat vision, which puts him at risk again.

Eren also does not scale to the Beast Titan's flying capabilities nor has he fought a flying opponent before. You guys really think projectiles that moves at the same speed are hitting someone who flies. Not only that, but the belief that stratergy outplays Eren getting beamed down and dying instantly (You guys are incredibly underestimating his True flight capabilities)

You're strawmanning. Since when did I compared Eren's to Falco's flight?

You also severely missed the point. Even at equal speed, you need to prove Homelander is skilled enough to dodge what is effectively ground-based damaku. You also seemed to ignore that Eren can summon the spikes from his skin, meaning he is not limited to the ground.

 

[Doggo]

Rather than Arrogance, I believe Homelander's Anger will be triggered in this fight knowing his own impulse when Eren refuses to die, which leads him into getting Heat Vision'd to death.

Mr.A-Train, the goat, lowkey rage baited bro, and instead of lasering him, Homelander opted to choke him instead. Dear Homie would want to make it personal and proceeds to get outskilled and LS diffed.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Ok? Here, Reiner is rather close when Armin went boom, and here is Reiner again enduring the heat with his body and surroundings clearly scorched, indicating he withstood the blast. Eren even endures the heat himself, btw


The heat Armin produced in the Marley Port scene is way beyond what Homelander can do, given that it melted a decent chunk of land.

The funny thing is this;

1. Both piece of evidence shows clear indication of Reiner's ability to withstand heat given his Verbatim "Armored Titan". Which has Nothing to do with Eren.
2. I commend you on your first piece of evidence. You proved to me Reiner survived the Thermal Energy of Armin's blast well done. Now go ahead and substitute this with Eren for me?

And if you so do prove it, Prove Reiner with ARMOR, scales to the Heat withstanding ability of Eren for me. Their Titans aren't inherently comparable in that case, We see the Cart Titan being actively burnt by normal flames unless you want to substantiate all titans have the same heat resistance with the infinitely anti feats I have to debunk that. Rod Reese's Titan's heat for example is a couple hundred Degrees (300 I believe) for burning wood and is capable of burning eren to a crisp

Not only did you ignore the point but your evidence has not shown any direct correlation with Eren's Attack Titan Form. I am actually getting ready to post every anti feat possible to debunk Eren's acclaimed resistance to extreme heat and I'll enjoy doing so. We actively see Reiner tank stuff Eren's Titan can't, even weaponry, which are heat based, such as thunderspears and Canons which are Anti-Titan that Eren would get absolutely bamboozled by. None of the 9 titans are each comparable to the Armored Titan in durability and physical endurance. Non defeater.

3. The clip of Season 3 is very boogusly presented. It has 0 evidence of Eren surviving within the explosion. He was outside the heat blast, and only close enough to feel the shockwave. If the heat was so extreme aswell, the normal humans on his shoulders would've been evaporated unless you want to suggest they can withstand thousand of degrees aswell which would be a very silly claim. The second piece of evidence did nothing to support you.

4. Armin point is fine. Does absolutely nothing for Eren's Attack Titan Form. We all can collectively agree only Reiner would be able to survive within closeness of such an explosion. The other titans would not. Homelander's Heat still stands.

Experience does not equate skill. Homelander can fly high, sure, but you need evidence that he is skilled enough to evade several projectiles at once. I'm not questioning his flight, I'm questioning his ability to dodge damaku

Fine. It comes down to who hits first then? I like it. I believe Homelander has a likely higher chance of hitting Eren with Heat Vison (which is a one shot) and killing him than vice versa. We simply disagree.

Homelander FRA

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

This also does not debunk Eren withstanding the steam, which is not an explosion lol

I just seen this. This point is very silly. You claiming Eren withstands the Collasal Titan's steam doesn't... mean he can withstand its explosion.. difference in output.. difference in heat.. you cooked with the first half but this second part brought your argument to the Void. My guy, Hange and her squad survived the Collasal Titan's steam in Season 2. That shit is as hot as a Hot Spring

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Mr.A-Train, the goat, lowkey rage baited bro, and instead of lasering him, Homelander opted to choke him instead. Dear Homie would want to make it personal and proceeds to get outskilled and LS diffed.

Ummm... Eren is like 15 meters tall. He isn't grabbale and snappable by the neck You brought a normal sized human (Goat BTW) to a Titan battle, talking bout some neck snap and choking. Homelander can't even grasp the a tooth on this guy. Difference in size blud. He is going to beam him down

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Oh yeah, Homelander has Xray Vison. He's seeing directly where Eren is in that mass of flesh. GGs, one beam and its over

 

[ShionAH]

Homelander FRA

 

[DavidTPPM]

Ngl I'm glad there's someone arguing in favor of Homelander because the "Homelander is a bum" agenda is getting pretty annoying. People really mistook Homelander being physically fodder outside of the boys verse for being completely fodder.

Not only does Homelander heat-stomp but his flight gives him a crazy mobility advantage. And to make matters worse his xray vision and enhanced hearing are basically a hard counter for Eren hiding in the Titans nape and trying to pull surprise attacks off.
And yeah sure Eren is more skilled but let's not act like AoT is some skillgod verse. He's a soldier trained in h2h combat but so is Butcher and presumably SB, and Homelander did relatively fine 1v1 and even 2v1 against them when they were physically comparable. And honestly even the training Eren does have wouldn't help him much against someone who's 10x smaller than his titan form and can literally fly and slice through him with heat vision.

This is a very comfortable win for Homelander. You can mark me down as voting him FRA

 

[Doggo]

The funny thing is this;

1. Both piece of evidence shows clear indication of Reiner's ability to withstand heat given his Verbatim "Armored Titan". Which has Nothing to do with Eren.
2. I commend you on your first piece of evidence. You proved to me Reiner survived the Thermal Energy of Armin's blast well done. Now go ahead and substitute this with Eren for me?

The Armoured Titan skin is hardening, meaning Eren's own hardening scales to its heat resistance, especially when Eren's hardening is shown to be superior in S4, with how easily he shattered the Armoured Titan's hide. You are conveniently ignoring the scan I showed of Eren tanking the heat himself.

Not only did you ignore the point but your evidence has not shown any direct correlation with Eren's Attack Titan Form. I am actually getting ready to post every anti feat possible to debunk Eren's acclaimed resistance to extreme heat and I'll enjoy doing so. We actively see Reiner tank stuff Eren's Titan can't, even weaponry, which are heat based, such as thunderspears and Canons which are Anti-Titan that Eren would get absolutely bamboozled by. None of the 9 titans are each comparable to the Armored Titan in durability and physical endurance. Non defeater.

Eren's hardening scales (actually upscales) to the Armored Titan's skin. And Eren's normal titan boy can endure the colossal titan's heat.

and this heat resistance is accepted in his profile

S4 Eren is very consistently shown shattering the Armored Titan's hide with ease. And since the Armoured Titan's armour is also hardening, Eren would also upscale its heat resistance

3. The clip of Season 3 is very boogusly presented. It has 0 evidence of Eren surviving within the explosion. He was outside the heat blast, and only close enough to feel the shockwave. If the heat was so extreme aswell, the normal humans on his shoulders would've been evaporated unless you want to suggest they can withstand thousand of degrees aswell which would be a very silly claim. The second piece of evidence did nothing to support you.

Given that we have feats of Armin actually withstanding the Colossal Titan's heat steam for quite some time before getting cooked, I think the scouts just have minor resistance. That's also ignoring the context of Eren blocking the heat off for them.

We also have Eren outright tackling the Colossal Titan here, touching and still not burning. Despite other scans showing that proximity will melt you down instantly

4. Armin point is fine. Does absolutely nothing for Eren's Attack Titan Form. We all can collectively agree only Reiner would be able to survive within closeness of such an explosion. The other titans would not. Homelander's Heat still stands.

Again, Eren's hardening scales to the Armoured Titan's skin, but oh well.

Fine. It comes down to who hits first then? I like it. I believe Homelander has a likely higher chance of hitting Eren with Heat Vison (which is a one shot) and killing him than vice versa.

I doubt his Heat vision is easily melting through him. It will take some time, and it won't be instant. Eren can just cover his nape with hardening.

Hange and her squad survived the Collasal Titan's steam in Season 2. That shit is as hot as a Hot Spring

The same heat that instantly vaporizes normal humans sure is only a "hot spring."

Why is the idea of them having heat resistance inherently so difficult to comprehend? Especially when we have Eren casually swimming through stomach acid with no injuries

Trained AOT humans simply have abnormal resistance to extreme conditions.

Oh yeah, Homelander has Xray Vison. He's seeing directly where Eren is in that mass of flesh. GGs, one beam and its over

Homelander won't be smart enough to think of that. He would just think Eren is a giant monster, not a human controlling one like a mech. Never mind the fact that Eren can use hardening on his nape or Eren literally summoning spikes from his nape as he did against Porco.

And yeah sure Eren is more skilled but let's not act like AoT is some skillgod verse. He's a soldier trained in h2h combat but so is Butcher and presumably SB, and Homelander did relatively fine 1v1 and even 2v1 against them when they were physically comparable. And honestly even the training Eren does have wouldn't help him much against someone who's 10x smaller than his titan form and can literally fly and slice through him with heat vision.

Eren not only was no.1 is his class in terms of H2H combat, but he can also fight and defeat the likes of Annie, Reiner, and Porco, who have all been trained since birth to be super soldiers for Marley and have been regularly deployed on the frontlines even before they obtained their titan powers. Reiner and Annie have experience dealing with enemies much smaller than they are. He can even 2v1 against Reiner and Porco and was effectively dominating that fight if it weren't for outside forces interfering. Not only that, he is a very analytical fighter, having exploited the Armored Titan's joints to exploit his grappling tactics, and also figured out that the Warhammer Titan was hiding her body somewhere else just by noticing how differently she transformed.

Ngl I'm glad there's someone arguing in favor of Homelander because the "Homelander is a bum" agenda is getting pretty annoying. People really mistook Homelander being physically fodder outside of the boys verse for being completely fodder.

I never argued this btw

Not only does Homelander heat-stomp but his flight gives him a crazy mobility advantage.

Does not matter because Eren has his own heat resistance.

 

[Doggo]

Nerfing heat that can melt humans into just a "hot spring" is some wild work and is being deliberately dishonest, especially when I already showed proof of that instance beforehand.

 

[AthelChan]

neutral, following for more args

 

[Doggo]

I'm just gonna simplify my arguments because my mucho texto is allat:

1. Firstly, Eren has enough heat resistance, at least enough to ensure Homelander just cannot instantly slice through his titan body, and would instead take some time to do so. His titan body can survive proximity to Colossal Titan, whose mere steam alone can instantly melt down several humans. And his hardening would scale to the Armoured Titan, who can endure heat capable of melting giant chunks of land.
2. Homelander has zero feats of being able to dodge several projectiles at once, even with flight. Eren can shoot several spikes, each of which is larger than Homelander's body, from both the ground and his own skin. Given HL's heat vision shares the same range as Eren's spikes, meaning he would constantly be within Eren's range to use them
3. The idea of Homelander's small size being an issue for Eren is false, as S4 Eren is equal to or above the likes of Annie and Reiner, who themselves dealt with several smaller foes before.
4. Homelander is hotheaded and arrogant enough to try to engage in close quarters, which would lead to him getting demolished by Eren's vastly superior LS
5. Eren's superior regeneration and sheer mass on his body would make it difficult for Homelander to deal with any meaningful damage.


EDIT: I also want to point Eren is not only more skilled here, but he is also a smarter fighter and would immediately think of strategies on how to handle Homelander's flight. Eren is also taught by Annie to throw faints so he can just fool HL a lot. For example, making him dodge several spikes in front of him only for more to come directly to his back. Homelander's only counter is flying out of range, but doing so will negate his own heat vision; he would need to return to Eren's range to be able to use it.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Eren not only was no.1 is his class in terms of H2H combat, but he can also fight and defeat the likes of Annie, Reiner, and Porco, who have all been trained since birth to be super soldiers for Marley and have been regularly deployed on the frontlines even before they obtained their titan powers.

Thats cool, so?
Butcher is a martial arts expert and an ex special forces agent while SB was a trained black ops soldier and Homelander did decently against them 2v1.

So like I said, Eren is more skilled, sure, but not by enough to make up for the mobility and ability disadvantage. Eren would have a slight advantage in a straight h2h 1v1 with nothing else but Homelander has a ton of other abilities to make up for it.

Reiner and Annie have experience dealing with enemies much smaller than they are. He can even 2v1 against Reiner and Porco and was effectively dominating that fight if it weren't for outside forces interfering.

That's not how skill works. Just because Erens h2h skill is enough to fight Reiner or Annie doesn't mean he has the exact same niche skillset. Eren himself has little to no experience fighting human sized enemies and just because he fought opponents that have that experience doesn't mean it somehow transfers to Eren.

Also, even Reiner and Annie never fought anyone with Homelander level mobility so that would be bunk anyway. ODM gear doesn't come even close to straight up flight.

Not only that, he is a very analytical fighter, having exploited the Armored Titan's joints to exploit his grappling tactics, and also figured out that the Warhammer Titan was hiding her body somewhere else just by noticing how differently she transformed.

Being analytical is great but it won't stop Homelander from lasering Erens titan into sushi and then lasering his face in half.

I never argued this btw

I'm not saying you did, I'm saying it's something that generally happens in vs threads.

Does not matter because Eren has his own heat resistance.

Does Erens resistance get anywhere near 3500°C? Because that's what Homelander scales above.

Also I just noticed. Homelander scales to 800 tons and Eren scales above 233 tons. So even without heat, Homelanders beam is just cleaving Eren in half through sheer AP given it's a cutting attack scaling almost 4x above his durability.

 

[ShionAH]

Homelander slander is so forced, no one even mentioned his 4x advantage and just voted

Yeah HL got this

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Homelander slander is so forced, no one even mentioned his 4x advantage and just voted

Yeah HL got this

They all immediately saw Homelander and larped

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Firstly, Eren has enough heat resistance, at least enough to ensure Homelander just cannot instantly slice through his titan body, and would instead take some time to do so. His titan body can survive proximity to Colossal Titan, whose mere steam alone can instantly melt down several humans. And his hardening would scale to the Armoured Titan, who can endure heat capable of melting giant chunks of land.

Yk what i find so funny. Your claims went from Eren normally can tank extreme levels of heat to the Heat only scaling to his hardening. How far we've fallen, and there's nothing that substantiate's Eren's Hardening scaling in Heat Resistance of The Armored Titan's Armour (Infact Reiner has feats to substantiate this, Eren's hardening doesnt) . As the profile shows, at best he scales to Reiner with hardening via AP. Melting down humans is like 260°. I've already contended the season 3 point. 3500° + 4x AP advantage is tearing through Eren like paper.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

munch munch

Homer Land for Angelicx's reasoninsg

 

[Doggo]

Yk what i find so funny. Your claims went from Eren normally can tank extreme levels of heat to the Heat only scaling to his hardening. How far we've fallen, and there's nothing that substantiate's Eren's Hardening scaling in Heat Resistance of The Armored Titan's Armour (Infact Reiner has feats to substantiate this, Eren's hardening doesnt) . As the profile shows, at best he scales to Reiner with hardening via AP. Melting down humans is like 260°. I've already contended the season 3 point. 3500° + 4x AP advantage is tearing through Eren like paper.

I mentioned Eren tanking the Colossal's heat by hugging its foot. Stop strawmanning.

You've completely ignored the rest of what I've said regarding Reiner. His armor is hardening; hardening in general has heat resistance. And Eren has hardened, which is shown to be superior to Reiner's.

Homelander slander is so forced, no one even mentioned his 4x advantage and just voted

Yeah HL got this

I never really slandered him here; in fact, I was the first to suggest that he could try to zone Eren out before I realized his heat vision shared the same range as Eren's spikes

Anyway, does Homelander have any counters to Eren's titan body having high-mid regen here? I get that HL targeting his human body would counter that (Fallen did a good job pointing this out, which I will give to them), but I doubt HL would really consider using his X-ray vision to even try to find the body when he has no prior knowledge of Eren controlling his titan form like that. And Eren would be particularly protective of his human body, going as far as to shield his nape completely with hardening.

Does Erens resistance get anywhere near Because that's what Homelander scales above.

As Fallen made me realize, Eren's resistance for his main titan body (tanking the Colossal's heat steam) won't be enough, but his hardening (which, mind you can one-shot the value it scales, aka it would actually be equal to Homelander's AP) scales to Reiner being able to tank the Colossal titan tanking the Colossal's blast. Look at what the Collosal did here, melting through a massive chunk of land like that would FAR exceed 3500 Celsius

 

[Doggo]

Yeah, I think it needs to be mentioned that Eren's hardening far exceeds his 8A value, given he can easily tear through Reiner's armor like paper, which scales to that value. So that 4x AP gap is something Eren can cross over. Combined with his hardening scaling to the heat of the Colossal's explosion, he can block HL's lasers well

What's more, his high-mid regen cannot be ignored. Pure titans who are far below Eren can regenerate sliced limbs almost instantly and can restore all lost limbs in a short timeframe. So even if HL were to target the parts uncovered by hardening, Eren can just restore them and keep on fighting