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9-C Animal Tournament Round 1: Cujo vs Phyrr Cat | Cujo vs Warhammer 40,000 | 0-7-0 GRACE

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Fight Location: A Burger King​

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Cujo:​

Phyrr Cat: JustANormalLemon, Tllmbrg, Naito-desu, Friedoil11, MannyQ361, Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh, Poketmonsrs

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Cujo seen to have the APadvantage thanks to ripping apart metal bats, let's scale It to his dura too

Okay so Cujo has the AP and dura advantage while phyrr cat seen to have... everything else I vote phyrr cat
 
Well, after a bit of evaluation, I realized this:

Cujo:
Advantages:
  • Has an AP advantage of x1,4203714343417721518987341772152.
  • Has higher stamina.
Disadvantages:
  • Has lower intelligence than the Phyrr Cat due to the Rabies.
  • Doesn't resist the poison.

Phyrr Cat:
Advantages:
  • Has poison manipulation.
  • Has extrasensory perception and acrobatics, which might give him a slight advantage.
Disadvantages:
  • Is physically weaker.
  • Has to rely on his poison manipulation. I'm not saying that that's a bad thing, but he would have to hit him in order to have effect (if it works by Phyrr Cat biting Cujo and not viceversa). So, if he doesn't realise that Cujo has he physical advantage, he might just make a full physical fight, which might result in Cujo killing Phyrr Cat before either the poison or the cat does.

So, if the poison works like for venomous animals, then I vote for Cujo, if the poison works like for poisonous animals, I will still vote for Cujo, but I might be slightly leaning to Phyrr Cat.
 
the ap advantage is so low that It's ignorable, Phyrr having acrobatics and EP will make the cat aut manuver Cujo more times then Cujo will defeat him
 
The AP gap is so small that I think the fact both use bites/claws means they will just maim one another whenever they hit.
Their bite is venomous, and we know off other life forms that at worst it needs less than an hour to kill a human. Now since Cujo doesn't have any innate resistance (Plus he has no actual stamina feats listed on the page and as noted by the weakness section he is actively dying from rabies) and he would weigh far less than a human, thus any poison is realistically more potent against him, then a single bite from the Phyrr Cat will murder it.

It's also a lot more nimble than Cujo, and has no reason to continue engaging Cujo after the first bite. Considering it is an apex predator that relies on stealth, I don't think it's unfair to say it would employ a hit and run tactic against a far more aggressive enemy.
 
and he would weigh far less than a human
According to Google, the average global adult human weight is approximately 136.7 Ibs, and the average of a male st bernard 140 to 180 lbs, so Cujo should be able to last longer under the effect of the poison
Also assuming this is a vote for Cat
 
According to Google, the average global adult human weight is approximately 136.7 Ibs, and the average of a st bernard 120 to 180 lbs, so Cujo should be able to last longer under the effect of the poison
Also assuming this is a vote for Cat
I mean, I figure it would be on the low end considering the rabies and visible bleeding all over it.
Also yes.
 
Yah rabies takes weeks to develop, so even if Cujo spreads it (And really I have my doubts seeing as the Phyrr is highly toxic through and through) it's not winning Cujo the fight at all.
 
According to Google, the average global adult human weight is approximately 136.7 Ibs, and the average of a male st bernard 140 to 180 lbs, so Cujo should be able to last longer under the effect of the poison
Also assuming this is a vote for Cat
I mean, I figure it would be on the low end considering the rabies and visible bleeding all over it.
Also yes.
Well, since we are technically picking the low end,
And you said this, I would assume that the venom takes something between 45 to 60 minutes maximum to make effect. So, to make it somewhat useful, the Phyrr Cat would need to survive long enough to make it work.
the ap advantage is so low that It's ignorable, Phyrr having acrobatics and EP will make the cat aut manuver Cujo more times then Cujo will defeat him
Now, thanks to his acrobatics, I will say that Phyrr Cat might dodge some attacks, but Cujo might land a few hits before the poison takes effect. The problem for Cujo is that Phyrr might be too agile for Cujo to actually hit him, excluding the fact that Phyrr might attack him in the meanwhile.
It's also a lot more nimble than Cujo, and has no reason to continue engaging Cujo after the first bite. Considering it is an apex predator that relies on stealth, I don't think it's unfair to say it would employ a hit and run tactic against a far more aggressive enemy.
The real question is, would Phyrr bite Cujo and then start hitting him with claws? Because, while the venom is actually a good wincon IF Phyrr survives long enough to make the venom kill Cujo (which I'm not implying that he can't kill him in other ways), would he risk biting his opponent with the risk of being bitten back?
Yah rabies takes weeks to develop, so even if Cujo spreads it (And really I have my doubts seeing as the Phyrr is highly toxic through and through) it's not winning Cujo the fight at all.
Yeah, rabies wouldn't give Cujo any advantage unless there are some simptoms that hits in a short span of time between a few seconds and some minutes (assuming that the battle doesn't end earlier).
 
The real question is, would Phyrr bite Cujo and then start hitting him with claws? Because, while the venom is actually a good wincon IF Phyrr survives long enough to make the venom kill Cujo (which I'm not implying that he can't kill him in other ways), would he risk biting his opponent with the risk of being bitten back?
I mean it's a large cat, those guys tend to prefer stealth kills where they jump and bite at the neck to suffocate you.
Admittedly neither of these have LS listed, but the Phyrr Cat is the size of a small pony, so on the low end it can be 300 pounds, which is a lot heavier than Cujo.
 
I mean it's a large cat, those guys tend to prefer stealth kills where they jump and bite at the neck to suffocate you.
Admittedly neither of these have LS listed, but the Phyrr Cat is the size of a small pony, so on the low end it can be 300 pounds, which is a lot heavier than Cujo.
I feel like there aren't many places a pony sized cat would be able to hide inside a Burger King, but I don't go to Burger King so I might be wrong, also St. Bernards possess an exceptional, highly developed sense of smell, so correct me if I'm wrong, couldn't he just track down the Cat every time it hides?
 
I feel like there aren't many places a pony sized cat would be able to hide inside a Burger King, but I don't go to Burger King so I might be wrong, also St. Bernards possess an exceptional, highly developed sense of smell, so correct me if I'm wrong, couldn't he just track down the Cat every time it hides?
Yeah, and I might be wrong but, don't they start like on in front of the other? If so, how could the Phyrr hide?
 
I'm not saying it will hide away from Cujo, but I am saying that considering the natural inclination of a large cat and it being venomous, I think it just biting Cujo once and then dipping away can work.
Also it hid from a guy four meters away from it, and it's not like the two must remain within the Burger King.
 
Btw, does the venom have any other effect other than killing AND that takes less than an hour to have effect?
Well the scan on the profile itself says it will quickly render any creature into a skeleton that's surrounded by sludge out of their flesh, we just don't have a time frame for that so.
 
Well the scan on the profile itself says it will quickly render any creature into a skeleton that's surrounded by sludge out of their flesh, we just don't have a time frame for that so.
If it takes a short time, then I'm voting for Phyrr Cat. If it takes a lot, then I'm voting Cujo for higher stamina and slightly higher AP.
 
If it takes a short time, then I'm voting for Phyrr Cat. If it takes a lot, then I'm voting Cujo for higher stamina and slightly higher AP.
Okay but like, Cujo doesn't even have anything listed in his stamina outside rating, plus he's bound to die off a single bite either way, the Phyrr cat has no reason to keep engaging directly after they land a bite.
 
Okay but like, Cujo doesn't even have anything listed in his stamina outside rating, plus he's bound to die off a single bite either way, the Phyrr cat has no reason to keep engaging directly after they land a bite.
can somebody say like why not having anything listed in stamina outside rating is THAT important? Because I know it might change something like from a few hours of fighting stamina to whole days, but the Phyrr Cat doesn’t have a rating too in stamina, am I missing something?
 
can somebody say like why not having anything listed in stamina outside rating is THAT important? Because I know it might change something like from a few hours of fighting stamina to whole days, but the Phyrr Cat doesn’t have a rating too in stamina, am I missing something?
Well if you're going to base someone winning off two stats, those stats should be detailed imo.
And I just don't see what a vague superhuman stamina rating is really doing here, it's not like the Phyrr Cat needs to fight it for multiple hours, heck, it just needs one hit and then get away.
 
Well if you're going to base someone winning off two stats, those stats should be detailed imo.
And I just don't see what a vague superhuman stamina rating is really doing here, it's not like the Phyrr Cat needs to fight it for multiple hours, heck, it just needs one hit and then get away.
Well, I’m not basing who’s winning based on stats, the thing is I’m trying to understand if Phyrr can survive against Cujo (if he would rely on the poison). If it was just physical stats, so no abilities whatsoever, Cujo might have the edge thanks to his physical advantage.

The 3 biggest questions that I have mainly are:
  1. Can Cujo survive/last long enough to tire out Phyrr and kill him?
  2. Can Phyrr dodge at least most attacks from Cujo and fight back to kill him?
  3. If he had to rely to his poison, can he survive long enough from Cujo?

Maybe I’m just overestimating the AP gap or underestimating the acrobatic advantage that Phyrr has (or maybe both), but those are the main reasons I’m doubtful/leaning to Cujo.
 
The AP edge is less than x2 and both of them use claws/sharp teeth, it's really not relevant here, especially since the Phyrr Cat only needs one hit.
Plus its acrobatics specifically related to being a good dodger mid-combat alongside falling gracefully, so considering Cujo is a crazed dog that's probably just gonna bulrush, I don't think the Phyrr Cat will have any real problems of dodging it.

Like, at worst I think this is a mutual kill, but Cujo is the only party that is 100% dying from the scuffle.
 
You’ve convinced me. Phyrr might be too agile for Cujo and the poison is actually a great way to win because he would just to bite him once and let the poison do the rest while in the meanwhile he just have to dodge Cujo. So, unless someone doesn’t bring up something else as an advantage for Cujo, I’m voting Phyrr FRA.
 
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