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Revising Rimuru’s Abilities (Tensura Thread) – Part 1 (Accepted)

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Introduction:

Well, I originally planned to do this alongside my profile revamp, but I realized that would make it too large for the staff to go through. So, I’ve decided to divide it into parts. Nothing in particular, just some ability additions and removals.
The Verse: Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
The Character: Rimuru Tempest


Content:

First of all, some abilities that were already accepted need to be added to Rimuru’s profile. These are as follows:
With that out of the way, I’ll now move on to the main part, which applies only to the Pre-Demon Lord key.

Resistances to:

Unconventional Resistances to:​

Inorganic Physiology has no evidence. The only argument I can think of is that he’s a slime, but even that doesn’t work as his slime body is made of cells. So yeah, Inorganic Physiology should be removed, and as a result,
he loses the above resistances as well.


Immortality( Type 1, 3 and 6; Rimuru is a semi-spiritual-lifeform, thus doesn't age.[2] Can regenerate limbs, and move his core to another clone. A core is a set of consciousness and information particle)
Okay, so I don’t know how someone could arrive at that conclusion after reading the scan… just take a look at it:
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The scan basically says that Rimuru created a replica to distract Hinata, allowing his main body or rather, his "core slime" self, as it’s called, to escape. That’s it. So his Immortality Type 6 should be removed.

EDIT: Astral has proposed a new justification, that is.. Rimuru can combine Parallel Thought, allowing him to create multiple consciousnesses through cloning and thus, his Immortality type 6 should stay. Any Input from knowledgeable members or staff would be appreciated.


Explosion Manipulation (He can create explosions.)
The text says that Rimuru can create explosions, while the linked scan literally says the opposit. So, here is the link that says he can do it.


Well, this is redundant and I don’t see any reasoning for it. Rimuru already has abilities like Black Flame covered under Fire Manipulation, so yeah.


Forcefield Creation, Plasma Manipulation, Matter Manipulation and Spatial Manipulation ( With Multilayer Barrier, which also improves Rimuru's resistances,[6] this barrier also have the ability to manipulate any matter and wavelength)
Well, being able to control matter and wavelengths doesn’t grant Plasma Manipulation, the scan used as a justification are these:
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Uriel is a skill he doesn’t even have yet lol. So, these two , including Spatial Manipulation should be removed.


Summoning, Curse Manipulation and Mind Manipulation (Can summon demons and spirits. Summoners in Tensura can place a locking curse on those that were chosen to be summoned, so that they would obey their masters no matter what. At the same time, their soul could also be hold captive by this kind of curse)
Okay, so Rimuru can summon demons and spirits, fine .. but the problem is that the latter part is completely misleading , as it does not refer to summoning in general but specifically to Otherworlder summoning. well, the links are broken, so it’s unclear what scan is being used, but I believe they are these two [First, Second ]. Though, now that @Loetkolben16 brought it up, I think it should stay, but the description should be changed to something like this:
And why does it have Mind Manipulation? Their minds aren’t being manipulated; if anything, it would be Soul Manipulation (and information manipulation type 2).


Resistance to Spatial Manipulation (Analyzed the cause of Hakurou's wounds that was struck by Kyoya's space severing attack which in turn gained the ability to resist and counteract with spatial element.
Well, the scan doesn’t say that. Hakurou just says he knows the trick to avoid it, not that he has or gained resistance.


Resistance to:

Possession (Deviant allows one to separate something including someone possessing Rimuru. Possessing Rimuru is very hard since Great Sage is a conceptual intelligence that is a part of Rimuru's soul and also the one handling database of all of Rimuru's memories. It would intervene if someone tries to possess Rimuru)
Memory Manipulation(Transmigrant are those who retain their memory of their past lives since their memories of their past lives are burned into their souls due to their powerful will. Transmigrant people sometimes retain their memory of their past lives but a Transmigrant from another world is uncommon and a regular soul, by itself, would have no hope surviving a journey across the realm since it would dissolve midway, taking its memories with it. Transmigrant people from another world would retain half of their memories at best if they're lucky while Rimuru is a Transmigrant from another world but he retains all of his memories which showcase how strong his willpower)
The above resistances should be changed to Unconventional Resistances. Also, I’m a bit late on this, but all of Shizue’s resistances that are based on the <Deviant> skill should be moved to Unconventional Resistances as well, since they are applications of Fissionism.


Resistance to Sense Manipulation(Stronger than Ranga, who can resist Confusion, a spell which distorts senses of smell)
This (resistance) should be changed to Sleep Manipulation instead, as per the scan itself, Ranga was affected by confusion and lost his sense of smell but because it didn’t completely affect him,
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he was able to stay awake while most of them fell asleep.
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And this would also grant the user of this spell, such as Shuna, Sleep Manipulation as well.

So yeah, that’s pretty much everything (damn). If there’s any disagreement, feel free to point it out.
 
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The resistance to Spatial Manip, wasn't that due to Rimuru analyzing it and not Hakurou "avoiding it"
Also shouldn't the resistance come from analyzing Alice's "Air-Element Spirit"???

EDIT: Agree with most parts especially the unconventional resistances
 
The resistance to Spatial Manip, wasn't that due to Rimuru analyzing it and not Hakurou "avoiding it"
Also shouldn't the resistance come from analyzing Alice's "Air-Element Spirit"???
The explanation under the Imgur page doesn’t say that he gained resistance, heck, it doesn’t even mention anything about a counter. Furthermore, the main scan used was about Hakurou fighting Kyoya.
 
Inorganic Physiology (Type 1) and Self-Sustenace (All type; Rimuru is reborn as a slime that never gets tired and hungry.[1] He doesn't need to breathe,[1] eat[1] and sleep[1])
Inorganic Physiology has no evidence whatsoever. The only argument I can think of is that he’s a slime, but even that doesn’t work as his slime body is made of cells. So yeah, Inorganic Physiology should be removed, and as a result,
Disagree with this part, since it is described as slimes don't get tired, don't need to eat or sleep, in volume 1, Chapter 1. (sent scan on Discord)
One discovery I had stumbled upon over the past few days was thata slime’s body could be way more useful than at first sniff. I never gothungry, for one, nor did I get tired. Food and sleep, for me, werewholly unnecessary. And I had divined something else, too. I couldn’tbe completely sure, but there didn’t seem to be anything else livingaround here. In terms of danger, I wasn’t sure there was any to speakof. My days were blissfully free of worry.
This should be enough, but we should also have some other statements for monsters in general if this is not enough. (would also make the one below it stay)
 
Disagree with this part, since it is described as slimes don't get tired, don't need to eat or sleep, in volume 1, Chapter 1. (sent scan on Discord)

This should be enough, but we should also have some other statements for monsters in general if this is not enough. (would also make the one below it stay)
Well, I guess you either didn’t read what I said, or I phrased it poorly. I have no problem with Self-Sustenance, I’m only proposing that his Inorganic Physiology be removed.
 
Hard disagree with removing self sustanance i dont know what are you trying to do atp 🤦‍♂️. Astral should have handled this thread. Did you get approval from them before you post this thread ?
 
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Well, I guess you either didn’t read what I said, or I phrased it poorly. I have no problem with Self-Sustenance, I’m only proposing that his Inorganic Physiology be removed.
Yeah you literally could have phrased it properly. Not just copy paste the abilities you want to remove and call it a day.
 
Prior note, if I didn't comment on something it means I agree.
Can also add this
Deviant can remove status effects
So, I need to clarify something first. The above was accepted for Shizue Izawa. However, it also lists Information Type 2 on her profile, for which I see no basis (that was my mistake, btw). So, I have removed it, and it should also be removed from her profile.
Skills are information, regardless of wherever they're engraved (since everything contains infons).

Also, you could add Limited Existence Erasure to deviant
Can separate proeprties inherent to the target and resultantly erase the original target itself if they have no physical form left after
Okay, so I don’t know how someone could arrive at that conclusion after reading the scan… just take a look at it:
Yeah this reasoning needs to go. But immo type 6 can still remain for another reasoning. He can combine parallel thought which lets him create multiple consciousness with Cloning, and thus could theoretically get immo type 6.
Okay, this one is just wrong. The text says that Rimuru can create explosions, while the linked scan literally says the opposit. And I know some might say that Rimuru should be able to do it via Deviant by fusing his skills, but he’s never shown or stated to do that.
Na ds can stay. Just use this scan instead
He upgraded his skill a few pannels later and now he can do it

Well, this is redundant and I don’t see any reasoning for it. Rimuru already has abilities like Black Flame covered under Fire Manipulation, and Hell Flare is just a technique that uses Black Flame. So yeah.
Can stay, since black flames are:
“Black Flame Prison (Hellflare)—!”

“Web Slash of Monsters.”

The black flame fireball that bears hellflare and the “Sticky Steel Web” that can cut through even steel overflow and cover the targets. Yet it is only met with a wave of maniacal laughter.
V7C6 Slimereader

Also, uhhh, the hellfire manip name link just transfers you to fire manipulation... Then ig yeah, if fire manip is already there on his profile we can just remove this cuz it's indeed redundant
Okay, so Rimuru can summon demons and spirits, fine .. but the problem is that the latter part is completely misleading , as it does not refer to summoning in general but specifically to Otherworlder summoning. well, the links are broken, so it’s unclear what scan is being used, but I believe they are these two [First, Second ]

And why does it have Mind Manipulation? Their minds aren’t being manipulated; if anything, it would be Soul Manipulation (and information manipulation type 2).
The mind manip thing can be changed, but I think the locks (curses) are just a process of summoning itself, not just otherworld summoning. Plus we saw Rimuru doing stuff with Beretta's master lock which I think is that what curse stuff is similar to. So since the master lock still exists, it means the curses still exist in some form
Well, the scan doesn’t say that. Hakurou just says he knows the trick to avoid it, not that he has or gained resistance.
Can still get it via acquiring resistance to anti magic, inferior version of holy field which is also a spatial severance type magic, and that effect is also included in anti magic cuz it prevents teleportation too (scans)
This should be changed to Sleep Manipulation instead, as per the scan itself, Ranga was affected by confusion and lost his sense of smell but because it didn’t completely affect him
That still doesn't mean it's not sense manip. His keen sense of smell was still effected. You can just list it as both. If one effect fails to work the other will. That kind of thing
 
Disagree with this part, since it is described as slimes don't get tired, don't need to eat or sleep, in volume 1, Chapter 1. (sent scan on Discord)

This should be enough, but we should also have some other statements for monsters in general if this is not enough. (would also make the one below it stay)
Hard disagree with removing self sustanance i dont know what are you trying to do atp 🤦‍♂️. Astral should have handled this thread. Did you get approval from them before you post this thread ?
Yeah you literally could have phrased it properly. Not just copy paste the abilities you want to remove and call it a day.
Y'all, it was kinda already clear that he was talking about inorganic physiology, not self sustenance...
This was his previous wording:
Inorganic Physiology has no evidence whatsoever. The only argument I can think of is that he’s a slime, but even that doesn’t work as his slime body is made of cells. So yeah, Inorganic Physiology should be removed, and as a result,

If you still didn't notice it, lemme bold it
Inorganic Physiology has no evidence whatsoever. The only argument I can think of is that he’s a slime, but even that doesn’t work as his slime body is made of cells. So yeah, Inorganic Physiology should be removed, and as a result,

So let's not try to be rude, k? (Referring to Mizuki)
 
Prior note, if I didn't comment on something it means I agree.

Can also add this
Deviant can remove status effects
Already added it as unconventional resistance.
Skills are information, regardless of wherever they're engraved (since everything contains infons).
Let me edit it .
sure.
Yeah this reasoning needs to go. But immo type 6 can still remain for another reasoning. He can combine parallel thought which lets him create multiple consciousness with Cloning, and thus could theoretically get immo type 6.

Na ds can stay. Just use this scan instead
He upgraded his skill a few pannels later and now he can do it
I’m not sure, tbh, though I’ll add it as just a proposal.
The mind manip thing can be changed, but I think the locks (curses) are just a process of summoning itself, not just otherworld summoning. Plus we saw Rimuru doing stuff with Beretta's master lock which I think is that what curse stuff is similar to. So since the master lock still exists, it means the curses still exist in some form
Well, the problem is that it never referred to summoning in general, but only specifically to Otherworlder summoning, and I don’t think Master Lock is similar in that aspect.
Can still get it via acquiring resistance to anti magic, inferior version of holy field which is also a spatial severance type magic, and that effect is also included in anti magic cuz it prevents teleportation too (scans)
This should be done in another thread tbh.
That still doesn't mean it's not sense manip. His keen sense of smell was still effected. You can just list it as both. If one effect fails to work the other will. That kind of thing
No, no, no… I just said the resistance should be changed to Sleep Manipulation. Let me edit it.
 
I’m not sure, tbh, though I’ll add it as just a proposal.

Well, the problem is that it never referred to summoning in general, but only specifically to Otherworlder summoning, and I don’t think Master Lock is similar in that aspect.

This should be done in another thread tbh.
Sure
No, no, no… I just said the resistance should be changed to Sleep Manipulation. Let me edit it.
Should say you meant sleep manip should be added, since otherwise the wording kinda implies you want to remove sense manip lol.

Anyways, now to the added abilities:
This can use a better wording and scans. Also, can add absolute zero.

Rest is fine.
 
@AlipheeseXIV Atomization means breaking something down to the atomic level. So molecular fits better ig.
Btw, raws don't say atomize lol
Go Yenpress
魔力を込めて放たれた、ランガの声震砲ボイスカノンである。子鬼族ゴブリン程度なら一撃で粉微塵にしてしまうほどの強力な威力を秘めているが、避けられては意味がない。
 
Well, the problem is that it never referred to summoning in general, but only specifically to Otherworlder summoning, and I don’t think Master Lock is similar in that aspect.
When Guy was summoned he had a something on him, from Jail to control him, doesn't that still work?
This event would be the birth of the world’s first True Demon Lord. As he gained power, he realized that he had escaped the spell that bound him. It would have been an easy spell to destroy, but it was disappointing that it had burst without him doing anything.
 
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