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It would matter if he's not taking direct blows.
I see. It's from lightning. That makes sense.
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Katsuki Bakugo Vs Garfiel Tinzel (My Hero Academia Vs Re: Zero) [7-2-0]
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Huge difference between the explosions innit
Yeah Bakugo has several kilometers range difference with Howitzer Impact variations that I have no idea how he's supposed to avoid with his travel speed against Bakugo's speed advantage over him
Alongside him possibly turning into a bomber jet against him
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What if Bakugo does this like alongside the full body cluster blitz
VortechsTG
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Because Bakugou doesn't usually start with kilometer wide attacks. By the time he does this Garfiel will have grown significantly faster, stronger, and more heat resistant. And up to a certain point Garfiel can deflect smaller blasts with his shields. The difference in their durability and his is the same as between a regular human and steel shields would be.
This just doesn't look very hard to deal with considering his skill and regen if I'm being real.
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Could the heat burn him faster than his healing, there is a heat transfer limit to consider too afterall
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Bump
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ig Bakugo FRA
Garfiel already starts at the peak of his AD and due to being the stronger character already, means there isn't anything to grow stronger against "as users can potentially strengthen themselves to match or exceed opponents that were previously on par with or more powerful than them" nor does it cover him literally growing a higher heat resistance.
any of Bakugo's attacks will literally vaporize him even with his heat resistance since he's harmed those previously despite that and Cluster being a blitz amp (not perception but still a blitz level amp) means he'll be blasting around Garfiel well creating hundred of meters to kilometer explosions. its literally just a byproduct of his explosions, they vary in size but are consistently massive esp Howitzer Impact explosions, something Bakugo can just throw out whenever he feels like it.
Garfiel already starts at the peak of his AD and due to being the stronger character already, means there isn't anything to grow stronger against "as users can potentially strengthen themselves to match or exceed opponents that were previously on par with or more powerful than them" nor does it cover him literally growing a higher heat resistance.
any of Bakugo's attacks will literally vaporize him even with his heat resistance since he's harmed those previously despite that and Cluster being a blitz amp (not perception but still a blitz level amp) means he'll be blasting around Garfiel well creating hundred of meters to kilometer explosions. its literally just a byproduct of his explosions, they vary in size but are consistently massive esp Howitzer Impact explosions, something Bakugo can just throw out whenever he feels like it.
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Garfiel has not reached the limit of his power. This isn't nlf. He has been stated to have the potential to be the strongest multiple times.
His AD doesn't necessitate an opponent be directly more powerful than him in stats. In fact he doesn't need an opponent at all, it just helps to have one. Kafma was blatantly weaker and slower than him physically but his variety of potent abilities were a significant challenge for Garfiel and yet "Every attack was even faster and more powerful than the previous one." And it does indeed cover an increasing resistance to heat. That's what happens when one gains greater control over the flow method.
Additionally, he is described as nigh-immortal because of the speed of his regeneration. He instantly healed from being nearly cut in half.
Garfiel is skilled enough to react to a perception blitz through prediction against an opponent who specializes in having a wide arsenal of abilities in his toolkit to catch opponents off-guard with. He can avoid many of Bakugou's attacks normally, deflect them with his shields, and even use his divine protection to temporarily propel himself away at much greater speeds if need be.
Any burns he sustains from being near explosions can be healed instantly. Even third degree burns. He is more than capable of surving a bombardment long enough to grow to a level Bakugou simply cannot compete with.
Garfiel FRA
His AD doesn't necessitate an opponent be directly more powerful than him in stats. In fact he doesn't need an opponent at all, it just helps to have one. Kafma was blatantly weaker and slower than him physically but his variety of potent abilities were a significant challenge for Garfiel and yet "Every attack was even faster and more powerful than the previous one." And it does indeed cover an increasing resistance to heat. That's what happens when one gains greater control over the flow method.
Additionally, he is described as nigh-immortal because of the speed of his regeneration. He instantly healed from being nearly cut in half.
Garfiel is skilled enough to react to a perception blitz through prediction against an opponent who specializes in having a wide arsenal of abilities in his toolkit to catch opponents off-guard with. He can avoid many of Bakugou's attacks normally, deflect them with his shields, and even use his divine protection to temporarily propel himself away at much greater speeds if need be.
Any burns he sustains from being near explosions can be healed instantly. Even third degree burns. He is more than capable of surving a bombardment long enough to grow to a level Bakugou simply cannot compete with.
Garfiel FRA
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Ok but it doesn't mean Bakugo would take long to use Howitzer Impact. Howitzer Impact isn't his ultimate move either at this point in time. Its Howtizer Impact Cluster. Even then, he did it against Shigaraki quick after only fighting for a short period. Why would Bakugo allow Garfiel to keep getting stronger and stronger instead of pulling off a Howitzer Impact, let alone cluster or full body cluster blitz alongside howitzer impact
Even then these are his blasts without using Howitzer Impact and not using his really small blasts.
(Which will hit him because of range and blitz speed vs superhuman travel speed)
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bro larps re zero now
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The only thing I larp is the I love Emilia scene and Regulus Corneas.
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What's wrong about Anastasia
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He would probably use it nearly immediately. At least in its basic form it's just another one of the small explosions Garfiel should have no issue handling.
It's not about letting him do anything. Garfiel is capable of surviving an all out attack. He will dodge, reflect, and regenerate though barrages of attacks and fire himself far away if Bakugou tries to launch a massive kilometer wide nuke.
Are you somehow under the impression that Garfiel is just statued there or something because he has "superhuman travel speed" on his profile? That is outside of combat. His running speed while in combat is relative to his combat speed.
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I have zero idea how Garfiel is supposed to dodge the bigger nukes or reflect them. Really small ones sure. Also Idk what his regeneration is supposed to do if his head/heart gets blown away or at the very least heavily damage since its Low Mid regen. Whats he supposed to do if Bakugo chucks his sweat onto him or inside his mouth (yes he did this) and blow him up ontop/inside of him.
I'm saying the guy isn't dodging a 4-kilometer explosion with his own travel speed while a maniac with a blitz amp is homing directly onto him bomb rushing in flying.
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bro that is a crazy s4 spoiler
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Subaru dies in season 4
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Garfiel already has tanked a heat blast that would have vaped him and adapted fast enough so that it doesnt burn him to death instantly:
Lets do some napkin maths!!
we are gonna use the thermodynamic data for silicon (which underestimates oxide behavior and does not consider that cement has material with way stronger bonds), the latent heat of vaporization alone is 13.7 MJ/kg, with an additional 1.8 MJ/kg for melting. Including heating raises that total further.
taking:
Power, P=E/t=(1.37×10^7)/10^-3=1.37×10^10W
(here, we took time=10^-3 which is a very conservative number considering even the slowest of the verse can easily perceive supersonic to sub rel speeds. E as we previously established is 13.7 MJ/kg)
Intensity, I=1.37×10^10W/m^2 [Assuming a 1 m² interaction area]
Now using stefan-boltzman's law, which basically states that I=σT^4
(I is 1.37x10^10 and σ is 5.67x10^-8)
Taking the fourth root, we get T = 22,154k
so we get 22,000 kelvins bare minimum even with the lowest interpretations
Garfiel's heat resistance is not that far behind bakugou's explosions and especially not enough for him to be unable to adapt to it.
Lets do some napkin maths!!
we are gonna use the thermodynamic data for silicon (which underestimates oxide behavior and does not consider that cement has material with way stronger bonds), the latent heat of vaporization alone is 13.7 MJ/kg, with an additional 1.8 MJ/kg for melting. Including heating raises that total further.
taking:
Power, P=E/t=(1.37×10^7)/10^-3=1.37×10^10W
(here, we took time=10^-3 which is a very conservative number considering even the slowest of the verse can easily perceive supersonic to sub rel speeds. E as we previously established is 13.7 MJ/kg)
Intensity, I=1.37×10^10W/m^2 [Assuming a 1 m² interaction area]
Now using stefan-boltzman's law, which basically states that I=σT^4
(I is 1.37x10^10 and σ is 5.67x10^-8)
Taking the fourth root, we get T = 22,154k
so we get 22,000 kelvins bare minimum even with the lowest interpretations
Garfiel's heat resistance is not that far behind bakugou's explosions and especially not enough for him to be unable to adapt to it.
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I don't think it's breath applies for the formula + i would disagree with some of the assumptions + i don't think that's how the wiki scales as well. Not usable for vs battle thread as well unless you put the calc to a blog and get it accepted.
It's heat being enough to vaporize the "The thing with the highest vaporization point of among the things he destroyed" would be more than enough, other things would be based on the range of the attack etc.
This fight is just stomp.
It's heat being enough to vaporize the "The thing with the highest vaporization point of among the things he destroyed" would be more than enough, other things would be based on the range of the attack etc.
This fight is just stomp.
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called it napkin maths for a reason, i will make a blog for it later if i get the time or if someone else wants to go ahead with it then they can
my main point is that its highly unlikely that Garfiel would get done in by the heat realistically (backed by facts and logic)
For garf or for bakugo?
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its been 10 yrs, get over her man
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is this how i get spoiled that rem isnt coming back
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Don't believe her, she is trying to decieve us!
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Who's Re-
Is that Paul on ur pfp?
Anyway Bakugou FRA assuming this isnt a stomp
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bro just forgot to spam aura monster every second
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Considering Garf can easily withstand the heat of the blasts, he would just keep on regenerating while adapting to his explosions, He is already way more skilled and will get stronger and faster. Moreover, Bakugo isnt even on the level of arc 4 garfiel and as soon as garf closes the distance his lapses in conscious will be exploited and he will be wrecked pretty damn fast.
garf adapts and ggs fra
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But he can't. The breath at most scales to the vaporization point of what it vaporized(which is nowhere close to Bakugo's heat value).
He's getting blitzed and vaporized pretty much instantly. This is just stomp.
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Mineta vs Beatrice when
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Do NOT put Beako near that FREAK
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Why? At worst, Mineta's Od is going to be absorbed.
Possibly he's being sent to another dimension (maybe the same one as the great rabit which is the actual best ending)
At best, he's dead.
I don't see any lose at all.
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If Subaru didn't get over her in those 10 years, then why would we
She'll beat Emilia fr
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You saying this with a Castorice name?
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