Upgrade Attack Potency Shirone Arian From Infinite Mage

[Suimei_The_Phantom]

This premise begins when Shirone used Immortal Function until it reached its maximum limit, which subsequently caused him to enter a white space [ the proof is here ]. All sides of the room were filled with white. No matter which direction he moved, Shirone was still able to walk, while his five senses had ceased to function. [ proof in here ]. There was no longer any “concept of distance” here, as it can only be measured when there is an object to be measured. Moreover, this space was nothingness/emptiness. [ proof in here - in here ].

The concept of distance would cease to exist, and even spatial theory would lose all meaning. This means that regardless of the direction Shirone walked. [ Proof In Here ] It was also confirmed that this place was a distinct spot, separate from the place where Shirone resided. [ Proof In Here & This Too ]. From the outside, no space appeared to exist there [ Proof ].

However, in reality, the mass of this place (spot) had been compressed to infinity. [ Proof ] It was proven that distance still existed between Shirone’s two hands; in other words, his body remained 3-dimensional. [ Proof ] It was even stated that a world whose mass had been compressed to infinity would appear as a single point from a distance, and when observed up close, it would confirm the fact that this world (this spot) was infinite. [ Proof ] What was most surprising was that the place, or spot, on which Shirone was currently standing was a spot created, or rather the spirit zone, belonging to someone who claimed to be a goddess, namely Miro. In other words, Miro was capable of creating and manipulating this space, which possessed an infinite nature. [ Proof ].

For reasons unknown, Miro stated that capturing Shirone was not an easy task, and that the energy released from his hands would be the real issue. [ Proof ]

This was confirmed by Miro herself, who stated that if Shirone used his energy, then this spot/space, created through Miro’s Spirit Zone, would be damaged or destroyed. [ Proof 1 & Proof 2 ].

• Conclusion:
• Miro would obtain the abilities of Pocket Reality and Reality Warping [capable of creating a three-dimensional space of infinite size and manipulating it as well].
• Shirone would obtain Attack Potency: 3-A according to the Tiering System / possibly High 3-A, as it was confirmed by Miro that Shirone was capable of damaging the space she created, which was infinite in size.

 

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[Syncornize]

Does the verse and the characters have a profile? I can’t find them

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You can bump it once a day

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Does the verse and the characters have a profile? I can’t find them

no it does not.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

I’m not convinced that high 3-A or 3-A scaling is justified based on the current description of the space. While the Spirit Zone is described as infinite in size or having compressed mass, that alone does not automatically qualify it as a universe-level structure. In most tiering standards, 3-A requires the destruction or creation of a full universe or an equivalent space-time continuum. Simply being infinite or appearing boundless is not sufficient without clear evidence that the structure contains a complete cosmological system or functions as a universe.

Similarly, High 3-A typically involves affecting an infinite three-dimensional universe. For this rating, the infinity must be explicit, consistent, and tied to the scale of the entire structure rather than a localized pocket space or dimensional construct. In this case, the Spirit Zone appears to be a separate pocket reality created by a character, and while it may have unusual spatial properties, there is no clear indication that it is equivalent to a full universe or that it contains a full space-time continuum. Therefore, the spatial creation feat seems valid, but assigning high 3-A or 3-A would require stronger confirmation about the nature of the space, such as explicit statements that it is a universe-sized or universe-equivalent structure.


I think Pocket Reality is fine, not sure Reality warping but maybe is fine i think

 

[Suimei_The_Phantom]

I’m not convinced that high 3-A or 3-A scaling is justified based on the current description of the space. While the Spirit Zone is described as infinite in size or having compressed mass, that alone does not automatically qualify it as a universe-level structure. In most tiering standards, 3-A requires the destruction or creation of a full universe or an equivalent space-time continuum. Simply being infinite or appearing boundless is not sufficient without clear evidence that the structure contains a complete cosmological system or functions as a universe.

What I mean is this: the pocket dimension created by Miro is clearly infinite in size, and he is able to manipulate it however he wishes. That is why he stated that the mass within that space was compressed into an infinitely small point. As for reality manipulation, Spirit Zone itself can already be considered a form of reality manipulation. You can verify this through Shirone’s profile, where Arian explains that the Spirit Zone used by mages is capable of manipulating reality upon activation through the principles of omniscience and omnipotence.

Uhm, why must the complete destruction of a universe, together with its entire space-time continuum, be made a requirement? Under tiering standards, Attack Potency 3-A / High 3-A essentially refers to the capability to create or destroy something equivalent to a universal scale. If that is the case, why should the destruction of the temporal component always be treated as mandatory? My point is that if there is a character who is confirmed to be capable of damaging, or even destroying, a space of infinite size, then that already represents the destruction of a three-dimensional spatial structure on a universal scale. Therefore, such an achievement should be considered relevant to the 3-A or High 3-A category without requiring the destruction of everything contained within that space. On the other hand, if what is destroyed is 3-D space along with an additional +1-D temporal dimension, then that would already amount to the destruction of a complete space-time continuum, which would logically be more appropriate for a Low 2-C rating.

 

[Suimei_The_Phantom]

Demikian pula, Tinggi 3-A biasanya mempengaruhi alam semesta tiga dimensi yang tak terbatas. Untuk peringkat ini, ketidakterbatasan harus eksplisit, konsisten, dan terkait dengan skala seluruh struktur, bukan ruang saku lokal atau konstruksi dimensi. Dalam hal ini, Zona Roh tampaknya merupakan realitas saku terpisah yang diciptakan oleh karakter, dan meskipun mungkin memiliki sifat spasial yang tidak biasa, tidak ada indikasi yang jelas bahwa itu setara dengan alam semesta penuh atau bahwa itu berisi kontinum ruang-waktu penuh. Oleh karena itu, eksposur kreasi spasial tampaknya valid, tetapi pemberian peringkat High 3-A atau 3-A akan memerlukan konfirmasi yang lebih kuat tentang properti ruang tersebut, seperti pernyataan eksplisit bahwa itu adalah struktur seukuran alam semesta atau setara dengan alam semesta.


Menurutku Pocket Reality baik-baik saja, aku tidak yakin Reality Warping tapi mungkin saja baik-baik saja.

Actually, it has already been confirmed there that the space created by Miro is an infinitely sized space that is separate from the world left behind by the main protagonist, Shirone Arian. I still do not understand when you say that I need to prove the spatial structure he created must be equivalent to a universe. How exactly am I supposed to prove that? What do you mean by that?
The structure of the Spirit Zone can be classified as High 3-A (High Universe Level) because it is explicitly confirmed to be a three-dimensional world of infinite size (Infinite World) that has been compressed to an extreme degree (Infinitely Condensed) into a single point. Given that its volume surpasses the scale of the Observable Universe, which is finite in nature, any act of destroying that point would be equivalent to overcoming the structural integrity of an infinite 3-D space. Therefore, a character capable of doing so would possess Attack Potency comparable to the creation or destruction of a universe on an absolute spatial scale.
Shirone Arian is confirmed by Miro to qualify for a Creation Feat (with Attack Potency 3-A / High 3-A) because the infinite space he created can be easily destroyed by the dangerous energy released by Shirone Arian. In other words, the energy emitted directly from Shirone’s hand grants him Attack Potency 3-A / High 3-A, allowing him to destroy a 3-D structure or possibly something higher, since that space is equal to or surpasses the Observable Universe.
Shirone Arian is also implicitly confirmed by Miro to qualify for a Creation Feat that correlates with Attack Potency 3-A / High 3-A, since the infinite space created by Miro is stated to be easily destroyable by the dangerous energy released by Shirone. In other words, the energy emitted directly from Shirone’s hand possesses the capacity to damage and even destroy a universal-scale spatial structure, namely a three-dimensional space that is equal to or even surpasses the size of the Observable Universe. Therefore, such offensive capability can be regarded as being at the 3-A / High 3-A level, as it demonstrates destructive power against the integrity of an infinite-scale 3-D structure, or potentially higher if there is additional evidence that other dimensional aspects are also affected. terpengaruh.

[ proof of shirone's <[1], ability to deal damage and destroy <[2] infinite-sized space ]

 

[Suimei_The_Phantom]

Does the verse and the characters have a profile? I can’t find them

Actually, the profile of Shirone Arian from the fiction Infinite Mage is still being worked on by someone and is still in the form of a blog.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

What I mean is this: the pocket dimension created by Miro is clearly infinite in size, and he is able to manipulate it however he wishes. That is why he stated that the mass within that space was compressed into an infinitely small point. As for reality manipulation, Spirit Zone itself can already be considered a form of reality manipulation. You can verify this through Shirone’s profile, where Arian explains that the Spirit Zone used by mages is capable of manipulating reality upon activation through the principles of omniscience and omnipotence.

Uhm, why must the complete destruction of a universe, together with its entire space-time continuum, be made a requirement? Under tiering standards, Attack Potency 3-A / High 3-A essentially refers to the capability to create or destroy something equivalent to a universal scale. If that is the case, why should the destruction of the temporal component always be treated as mandatory? My point is that if there is a character who is confirmed to be capable of damaging, or even destroying, a space of infinite size, then that already represents the destruction of a three-dimensional spatial structure on a universal scale. Therefore, such an achievement should be considered relevant to the 3-A or High 3-A category without requiring the destruction of everything contained within that space. On the other hand, if what is destroyed is 3-D space along with an additional +1-D temporal dimension, then that would already amount to the destruction of a complete space-time continuum, which would logically be more appropriate for a Low 2-C rating.

I understand your point that the pocket dimension is described as infinite in size and that damaging it could be interpreted as affecting an infinite three-dimensional structure. However, I think there are still some issues with directly assigning 3-A or High 3-A based on that alone.

First, under most tiering standards, 3-A is not defined purely by infinity in size, but by equivalence to a universe-level structure. In other words, the structure must function as a full universal-scale space rather than simply being spatially infinite. Many fictional pocket dimensions are described as infinite internally, yet they are still treated as localized constructs rather than full universes unless there is clear evidence that they are cosmologically equivalent.

Second, regarding the temporal component, the requirement is not that time must always be destroyed for 3-A, but that the structure being affected must be comparable to a universe in scope. A universe is typically understood as a space-time system, so demonstrating universal-scale destruction usually involves affecting the system as a whole. If only a spatial construct is shown without confirmation that it represents a complete universal framework, then the scaling may remain below 3-A.

In this case, the Spirit Zone appears to be a pocket reality created and controlled by miro, which supports abilities like spatial manipulation or reality manipulation. However, the available description does not clearly establish that the space is equivalent to a full universe or that its infinity corresponds to universal-scale cosmology rather than an internally infinite dimension.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Actually, it has already been confirmed there that the space created by Miro is an infinitely sized space that is separate from the world left behind by the main protagonist, Shirone Arian. I still do not understand when you say that I need to prove the spatial structure he created must be equivalent to a universe. How exactly am I supposed to prove that? What do you mean by that?
The structure of the Spirit Zone can be classified as High 3-A (High Universe Level) because it is explicitly confirmed to be a three-dimensional world of infinite size (Infinite World) that has been compressed to an extreme degree (Infinitely Condensed) into a single point. Given that its volume surpasses the scale of the Observable Universe, which is finite in nature, any act of destroying that point would be equivalent to overcoming the structural integrity of an infinite 3-D space. Therefore, a character capable of doing so would possess Attack Potency comparable to the creation or destruction of a universe on an absolute spatial scale.
Shirone Arian is confirmed by Miro to qualify for a Creation Feat (with Attack Potency 3-A / High 3-A) because the infinite space he created can be easily destroyed by the dangerous energy released by Shirone Arian. In other words, the energy emitted directly from Shirone’s hand grants him Attack Potency 3-A / High 3-A, allowing him to destroy a 3-D structure or possibly something higher, since that space is equal to or surpasses the Observable Universe.
Shirone Arian is also implicitly confirmed by Miro to qualify for a Creation Feat that correlates with Attack Potency 3-A / High 3-A, since the infinite space created by Miro is stated to be easily destroyable by the dangerous energy released by Shirone. In other words, the energy emitted directly from Shirone’s hand possesses the capacity to damage and even destroy a universal-scale spatial structure, namely a three-dimensional space that is equal to or even surpasses the size of the Observable Universe. Therefore, such offensive capability can be regarded as being at the 3-A / High 3-A level, as it demonstrates destructive power against the integrity of an infinite-scale 3-D structure, or potentially higher if there is additional evidence that other dimensional aspects are also affected. terpengaruh.

[ proof of shirone's <[1], ability to deal damage and destroy <[2] infinite-sized space ]

I think the confusion here comes from equating infinite size alone with universal-level scaling. Under most tiering standards, the requirement is not simply that a structure is infinite or larger than the observable universe, but that it functions as a universe-level system.

When people say the structure must be "equivalent to a universe," they usually mean that it has the properties of a universe, such as being a complete spatial framework that can contain matter, energy, and physical processes, or being treated in the narrative as a full world or cosmos rather than just a spatial volume. An infinite pocket dimension can exist without necessarily being comparable to a universe in that sense. Regarding the statement that its volume surpasses the observable universe, this comparison can be misleading. The observable universe is finite, but it is still part of a full cosmological system with space, matter, and physical laws. Simply being spatially infinite does not automatically place something at universal scale unless the story clearly treats it as a universe-level structure. Also, the fact that the space was compressed into a point does not necessarily mean that destroying that point equals destroying an infinite universe. In many fictional settings, large or infinite spaces are stored, folded, or compressed into small locations without implying universal-scale durability. What matters is the nature of the structure itself, not just its mathematical size.

So the key point is not that you must prove time was destroyed, but that the structure being affected must be demonstrated to be a universe-level system rather than just an infinite spatial construct. Without clear evidence that the Spirit Zone is equivalent to a full universe or cosmological framework, assigning 3-A or High 3-A would still require additional confirmation.

 

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