Katsuki Bakugo Vs Garfiel Tinzel (My Hero Academia Vs Re: Zero) [7-2-0]

[Huesito88]

The exact value is that which is required to vaporize buildings. And where the hell did you get 1,650 from?

From real life violet fire of 1650C

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

The exact value is that which is required to vaporize buildings

Yeah I dont know what the value is that's why I'm asking

And where the hell did you get 1,650 from?

From @SatellaTheWoE

 

[VortechsTG]

From real life violet fire of 1650C

There is no reason to assume Sirius' fire works the same way though. It varies in temperature and generally isn't any hotter than other powerful fire magic we see.

 

[Huesito88]

There is no reason to assume Sirius' fire works the same way though. It varies in temperature and generally isn't any hotter than other powerful fire magic we see.

Yeah I agree, I was just pointing out where he most likely got that.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Yeah I agree, I was just pointing out where he most likely got that.

And I got it from Satella lol

 

[VortechsTG]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Some_missing_destruction_values

This page suggests vaporizing concrete would be 2230°C.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Some_missing_destruction_values

This page suggests vaporizing concrete would be 2230°C.

Yeah I agree, I was just pointing out where he most likely got that.

Does Garfiel have a counter against Bakugo's heat because I don't 2230°C is enough

 

[Huesito88]

Does Garfiel have a counter against Bakugo's heat because I don't 2230°C is enough

Your trying to upgrade Bakugo's heat in a recent thread too.... (Which looks pretty blatant to me)

 

[MrTayman616]

Your trying to upgrade Bakugo's heat in a recent thread too.... (Which looks pretty blatant to me)

I have a few problem with it :d But i don't wanna bother with it, at least rn. (Good or bad, i dunno.)

Garfiel doesn't have enough resistance to do anything against it.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Your trying to upgrade Bakugo's heat in a recent thread too.... (Which looks pretty blatant to me)

(It’s because I saw Dabi Vs Emilia’s thread and how it kept using the heat of lightning and superheated plasma even though profiles don’t specify the value)

 

[Zabazab]

The keys work like this: Arc 5 covers arcs 5-6, Arc 7 covers arcs 7-8, Arc 9 covers arcs 9-10.

Anyways, can Bakugo kill Garf efficiently? His durability is greater and his regen is quite fast, he also has experience fighting flying opponents (Mezoreia).

 

[MrTayman616]

The keys work like this: Arc 5 covers arcs 5-6, Arc 7 covers arcs 7-8, Arc 9 covers arcs 9-10.

Is his profile aware of this?

Almost everything in Arc 9 key(P&A) belongs to Arc 7-8.

 

[Huesito88]

The keys work like this: Arc 5 covers arcs 5-6, Arc 7 covers arcs 7-8, Arc 9 covers arcs 9-10.

Anyways, can Bakugo kill Garf efficiently? His durability is greater and his regen is quite fast, he also has experience fighting flying opponents (Mezoreia).

Heat diffed unfortunately

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

The keys work like this: Arc 5 covers arcs 5-6, Arc 7 covers arcs 7-8, Arc 9 covers arcs 9-10.

Anyways, can Bakugo kill Garf efficiently? His durability is greater and his regen is quite fast, he also has experience fighting flying opponents (Mezoreia).

Bakugo’s advantages are basically
Amps or abilities that can close the gap or surpass garfiel’s durability/ap
Speed
Heat
Range
Flight

 

[Zabazab]

Almost everything in Arc 9 key(P&A) belongs to Arc 7-8.

Ahh I see, I was wrong then since the Arc 9 key was made at the start of arc 9.

Instead, the keys are to be thought of as "At the end of the arc". So Arc 5 is as of arc 5, Arc 7 is as of arc 7, and Arc 9 is as of the end of arc 9.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Actually isn’t Dabi Vs Emilia possible now since they’re the same AP

 

[Zabazab]

Actually isn’t Dabi Vs Emilia possible now since they’re the same AP

Clind versus Izuku...

 

[MrTayman616]

Actually isn’t Dabi Vs Emilia possible now since they’re the same AP

Emilia destroys imo.

She's a fire user and controls temperature itself. To the Absolute Zero etc. I think it's a very bad matchup for a fire user like Dabi. (Maybe not?)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Clind versus Izuku...

Anyone remember Cecilus Vs Deku

 

[Huesito88]

Emilia destroys imo.

She's a fire user and controls temperature itself. To the Absolute Zero etc. I think it's a very bad matchup for a fire user like Dabi. (Maybe not?)

Dabi's fire temperature is hilariously higher and would be the one to shot first with a speed advantage even in speed equalize match, but Emilia wins due to AZ, I'm guessing her AZ would just cancel out (and he just dies from AZ) fire due to AZ innate nature???

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Dabi's fire temperature is hilariously higher and would be the one to shot first with a speed advantage even in speed equalize match, but Emilia wins due to AZ, I'm guessing her AZ would just cancel out (and he just dies from AZ) fire due to AZ innate nature???

So basically a who one shots who first match

 

[Huesito88]

So basically a who one shots who first match

Not really because even if Dabi shots first Emilia then shots her AZ before it hits her and her AZ should cancel that out. (Atleast I think)

 

[Zabazab]

Anyone remember Cecilus Vs Deku

—Very well, Reinhard van Astrea was the strongest.

The One For All Hero, Izuku Midoriya, was faster; the Ogre, Yujiro Hanma, made greater use of techniques; the Ultimate Slime, Rimuru, was further distanced from death; the Great Spirits enrolled among the Four Greats exceeded him in Mana; the Sin Archbishops of the Witch Cult possessed irrational Authorities; the Witches of Sin had taken far more lives; many virtuous individuals were better at lying; and many scoundrels were more unfalteringly obstinate.

When looking at individual aspects generally, there were plenty of individuals who surpassed Reinhard. —Nevertheless, Reinhard van Astrea’s seat as the strongest would not be shaken.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Fr.

Also what’s the general consensus of the match or what’s Garfiel’s wincon

(Also quick question. Would Deku be considered worthy of the Dragon Sword being drawn or nah)

 

[Zabazab]

what’s Garfiel’s wincon

Dealing a fatal wound with his claws or teeth, probably to the head, neck, or chest.

(Also quick question. Would Deku be considered worthy of the Dragon Sword being drawn or nah)

There is neither rhyme nor reason behind worthiness of the Dragon Sword being drawn. Just the blade's fickle whims.

 

[Huesito88]

Dealing a fatal wound with his claws or teeth, probably to the head, neck, or chest.

Yes if he lands the hit, like Garfield could also crush Bakugo neck (Lifting strength difference is large). But Bakugo is too fast (Both travel and reaction) and one shots with heat diff difference, so it seems like it'll never happen.

 

[MrTayman616]

Why was I told the opposite by @MrTayman616

You were told because he is right.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

You were told because he is right.

Tbf the speed wasnt what did it. It was the heat

 

[MrTayman616]

Tbf the speed wasnt what did it. It was the heat

It wouldn't be different regardless :d

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

There is neither rhyme nor reason behind worthiness of the Dragon Sword being drawn. Just the blade's fickle whims.

Mf isn't worthy after this one

There goes Deku's PR again

 

[VortechsTG]

When the amp was described earlier as slightly more than a 2x amp, Bakugou is not remotely too fast for Garfiel. He would know his every move far in advance and has dealt with much larger speed gaps from far more skilled opponents. The issue would be contending with his aoe, but, unless Bakugou's attacks are hotter than the sun, Garfiel's main strength as a fighter is being able to heal lethal damage instantaneously. Bakugou's speed and aoe are certainly troublesome, but the skill gap is too great for me to realistically see him landing a direct blow to the head in time. Garfiel can simply deflect attacks with his shields and tank glancing blows when needed, all while growing noticeably stronger and faster every second.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

unless Bakugou's attacks are hotter than the sun,

11,000-28,000 degrees Celsius is his heat value btw

 

[Huesito88]

11,000-28,000 degrees Celsius is his heat value btw

Which is hotter than the surface of the Sun atleast

 

[VortechsTG]

11,000-28,000 degrees Celsius is his heat value btw

Setting aside for a second the fact that Garfiel's should realistically be higher as well once you start scaling him to other characters, how?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Which is hotter than the surface of the Sun atleast

(Unless bro means 15,000,000 degrees is needed)

 

[Huesito88]

(Unless bro means 15,000,000 degrees is needed)

Well yeah (or the corona of the sun)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Setting aside for a second the fact that Garfiel's should realistically be higher as well once you start scaling him to other characters, how?

Isn’t Garfiel’s heat value resistance like 2.6k degrees Celsius?

Also wym how? Like how for Bakugo’s heat?

 

[VortechsTG]

Isn’t Garfiel’s heat value resistance like 2.6k degrees Celsius?

If you're talking about what he's directly tanked, then yeah. But his resistance should be greater than Cecilus who's perfectly capable of shrugging off glancing blows from Arakiya who vaporizes nearby buildings simply by her presence, let alone with her attacks. It's not exactly a clear value but it implies a greater degree of heat. I'm not gonna claim it's 11-28k but it should be greater.

Also wym how? Like how for Bakugo’s heat?

Yes.

 

[Huesito88]

If you're talking about what he's directly tanked, then yeah. But his resistance should be greater than Cecilus who's perfectly capable of shrugging off glancing blows from Arakiya who vaporizes nearby buildings simply by her presence, let alone with her attacks. It's not exactly a clear value but it implies a greater degree of heat. I'm not gonna claim it's 11-28k but it should be greater.

Even if it is it won't matter the end result of getting hit would be the same

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Yes.

Bakugo’s heat can harm characters like All Might or Deku who can withstand superheated plasma and the heat of cloud to ground lightning midair. (11,000 Degrees Celsius and 28,000 Degrees Celsius) alongside being able to burn Complete Shigaraki and All For One with his explosions.