Kentarō's Family CRT

[Tllmbrg]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tllmbrg/SandboxKenGodzilla

P&A updates:
-Removed acrobatics since just jumping high does not qualify for the power anymore.
-Removed Accelerated Development because it has no basis in the comic.

Stats updates:
-Changed AP reasoning since shattering a spine is 9-C, but the visual has him blow the back of an armor anyways. Also he gets a higher end for the shockwave, plus even if it's the insides I imagine due to sheer volume Godzilla's insides being completely ruined can get higher, I just don't know how to calc it.
-Changed speed entirely. First there is no speed scaling for Godzilla's reactions, so idk why blitzing him would be Subsonic. Alongside that, why would Godzilla even bother dodging some random guy just jumping at him, it has no way to know he can one shot them, plus it's a very small target, so he'd need to move a lot to entirely avoid them.
-Lifting strength is completely swapped since an AP feat is not LS one.
-Stamina is downgraded since he just has no actual feats of it, all he does in the comic is run at Godzilla, throw one attack, and die.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kentar%C5%8D_(Godzilla)

This one it's just two minor changes.
-Remove acrobatics for the same reason as his dad (At least I assume he gets it off jumping fairly high, page doesn't explain).
-Speed should be downgraded to Average Human, in the comic the mom doesn't try to fight back at all against the baby, so there's no reason to say he blitzed her.
I'd also ask why he doesn't have a key for when he was Godzilla, but if it's worth adding the key is up for debate, since the stats would be hard to judge.

 

[Tllmbrg]

@Maverick_Zero_X @Apex_Predator_GX

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

-Removed acrobatics since just jumping high does not qualify for the power anymore.

Could you show me the staff thread where this standard was established? Also, the feat isn’t just about height; it involves leaping to a significant elevation in a combat context to land an attack, which suggests a degree of coordination and control beyond a simple jump.

Also, Koppo is not a standalone martial art, but a component of broader systems like Taijutsu and Ninpō Taijutsu. While it focuses on striking bones and vital points, these disciplines also include acrobatics and movement techniques, meaning such skills come from the overall training rather than Koppo itself.

https://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/martialarts/img/ninjas.pdf

https://www.kusakagedojo.com/taijutsu.pdf

-Removed Accelerated Development because it has no basis in the comic.

Accelerated Development can be supported through training. Kentaro’s father surpassing his own master at a young age indicates an unusually fast rate of growth in skill, which fits the definition.

-Changed AP reasoning since shattering a spine is 9-C, but the visual has him blow the back of an armor anyways. Also he gets a higher end for the shockwave, plus even if it's the insides I imagine due to sheer volume Godzilla's insides being completely ruined can get higher, I just don't know how to calc it.

I get your point, but it’s better to stick to what we can justify. The internals damage might suggest higher, but without a calc, it’s safer to keep it at 9-B.

-Lifting strength is completely swapped since an AP feat is not LS one.

That argument misses the point. A “mere touch” doesn’t mean no strength, it means force is being applied in a very focused way.

Shattering someone’s spine through armor still requires significant physical force, so it’s not just technique, it reflects strength as well.

-Stamina is downgraded since he just has no actual feats of it, all he does in the comic is run at Godzilla, throw one attack, and die.

That seems reasonable.

-Remove acrobatics for the same reason as his dad (At least I assume he gets it off jumping fairly high, page doesn't explain).

He is still capable of performing high jumps even as a baby, which is already beyond normal human capability. If there is a staff standard being applied here, I’d appreciate seeing it for clarity.

-Speed should be downgraded to Average Human, in the comic the mom doesn't try to fight back at all against the baby, so there's no reason to say he blitzed her.

That argument focuses on the mother’s lack of reaction rather than the feat itself. Kentaro moves several meters and lands an attack within seconds, which is already beyond average human capability, especially for a baby. Even without calling it a blitz, the movement speed alone supports a higher rating.

I'd also ask why he doesn't have a key for when he was Godzilla, but if it's worth adding the key is up for debate, since the stats would be hard to judge.

I was wondering why it’s necessary for Kentaro to have a Godzilla key. What matters is Kentaro himself and his stats, and even if he was Godzilla in a previous life, that isn’t his current state.

Now here it comes my review of your sandbox:

Your version is more specific, especially with Koppo, but it’s incomplete and removes relevant abilities. It also mislabels durability, since the feat clearly involves durability negation through internal damage rather than raw toughness.

Could you explain why durability negation was removed from Kentaro’s father’s AP section? The technique targets specific points that regulate the body’s energy, allowing the user to inflict internal damage and even destroy internal organs through precise strikes rather than relying on raw force.

You may also want to update his Striking Strength to “At least Wall level” for consistency.

If you plan to replace the scans, please give them clear names instead of generic ones like ‘Screenshot from 2026-04-13 09-42-28.png’.”

Also, for future edits, I’ve noticed that the reference style often gets changed in the profiles you edit. I’d prefer to keep the existing format for consistency among the Godzilla pages, and I’d appreciate that being taken into account going forward.

Overall, I disagree with most of the proposed updates for the reasons explained above, and I believe some of them would benefit from further clarification like the Acrobatics removal proposal. Given my involvement with the Godzilla pages, I hope that staff members can take these arguments into careful consideration.

This is a minor thing, but the Standard Format for Character Profiles clearly shows that a period should be placed at the end of the Weaknesses section, and it seems to have been removed from Kentaro’s profile.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kentar%C5%8D_(Godzilla)?diff=next&oldid=9472668

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I mostly agree with Apex, but will point out that if the AP is being questioned, there should still be at least one thing that is either calculated at 9-B or references another common feat 9-B range. The extended volume mentions some extra degree. Like would GPE warrant any sort of decent back up calculation? Or you could just use inverse square law comparing/contrasting to the size of an average human's spinal cord to get a minimum value.

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

Could you show me the staff thread where this standard was established? Also, the feat isn’t just about height; it involves leaping to a significant elevation in a combat context to land an attack, which suggests a degree of coordination and control beyond a simple jump.

Also, Koppo is not a standalone martial art, but a component of broader systems like Taijutsu and Ninpō Taijutsu. While it focuses on striking bones and vital points, these disciplines also include acrobatics and movement techniques, meaning such skills come from the overall training rather than Koppo itself.

https://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/martialarts/img/ninjas.pdf

https://www.kusakagedojo.com/taijutsu.pdf

Accelerated Development can be supported through training. Kentaro’s father surpassing his own master at a young age indicates an unusually fast rate of growth in skill, which fits the definition.


I get your point, but it’s better to stick to what we can justify. The internals damage might suggest higher, but without a calc, it’s safer to keep it at 9-B.


That argument misses the point. A “mere touch” doesn’t mean no strength, it means force is being applied in a very focused way.

Shattering someone’s spine through armor still requires significant physical force, so it’s not just technique, it reflects strength as well.


That seems reasonable.


He is still capable of performing high jumps even as a baby, which is already beyond normal human capability. If there is a staff standard being applied here, I’d appreciate seeing it for clarity.


That argument focuses on the mother’s lack of reaction rather than the feat itself. Kentaro moves several meters and lands an attack within seconds, which is already beyond average human capability, especially for a baby. Even without calling it a blitz, the movement speed alone supports a higher rating.


I was wondering why it’s necessary for Kentaro to have a Godzilla key. What matters is Kentaro himself and his stats, and even if he was Godzilla in a previous life, that isn’t his current state.

Now here it comes my review of your sandbox:

Your version is more specific, especially with Koppo, but it’s incomplete and removes relevant abilities. It also mislabels durability, since the feat clearly involves durability negation through internal damage rather than raw toughness.

Could you explain why durability negation was removed from Kentaro’s father’s AP section? The technique targets specific points that regulate the body’s energy, allowing the user to inflict internal damage and even destroy internal organs through precise strikes rather than relying on raw force.

You may also want to update his Striking Strength to “At least Wall level” for consistency.

If you plan to replace the scans, please give them clear names instead of generic ones like ‘Screenshot from 2026-04-13 09-42-28.png’.”

Also, for future edits, I’ve noticed that the reference style often gets changed in the profiles you edit. I’d prefer to keep the existing format for consistency among the Godzilla pages, and I’d appreciate that being taken into account going forward.

Overall, I disagree with most of the proposed updates for the reasons explained above, and I believe some of them would benefit from further clarification like the Acrobatics removal proposal. Given my involvement with the Godzilla pages, I hope that staff members can take these arguments into careful consideration.

This is a minor thing, but the Standard Format for Character Profiles clearly shows that a period should be placed at the end of the Weaknesses section, and it seems to have been removed from Kentaro’s profile.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kentar%C5%8D_(Godzilla)?diff=next&oldid=9472668

I think Apex makes a far better argument here, I have to agree with him

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I mostly agree with Apex, but will point out that if the AP is being questioned, there should still be at least one thing that is either calculated at 9-B or references another common feat 9-B range. The extended volume mentions some extra degree. Like would GPE warrant any sort of decent back up calculation? Or you could just use inverse square law comparing/contrasting to the size of an average human's spinal cord to get a minimum value.

That’s fair. In that case, I’ll request proper calculations for the feat to see where it consistently lands. That should help clarify whether it supports 9-B or stays closer to 9-C.

 

[Arceus0x]

Generally agree with Apex, I will leave y'all to decide what'll happen to the 9-B feat.

I agree with Tllmberg on acrobatics. If it's stated that he mastered a martial art that involves acrobatics then "likely acrobatics" would work but if there's no mastery then jumping isn't acrobatics no more, the page has gotten more complicated.

I also think I agree with Tllmberg on LS since this seems more like AP to me.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Generally agree with Apex, I will leave y'all to decide what'll happen to the 9-B feat.

I agree with Tllmberg on acrobatics. If it's stated that he mastered a martial art that involves acrobatics then "likely acrobatics" would work but if there's no mastery then jumping isn't acrobatics no more, the page has gotten more complicated.

I also think I agree with Tllmberg on LS since this seems more like AP to me.

That’s fair. I’d still appreciate it if someone could link the thread where the new acrobatics standards were decided, just for reference.

As for the feat, if you agree that the shattering scales to AP rather than LS, that works for me. In any case, I’ll try to get a calc for the feat, since that’s the safest approach.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Both OP and Apex make some points. I'll hold off for now, since I'm not sure yet.

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

Also, Koppo is not a standalone martial art, but a component of broader systems like Taijutsu and Ninpō Taijutsu. While it focuses on striking bones and vital points, these disciplines also include acrobatics and movement techniques, meaning such skills come from the overall training rather than Koppo itself.

If we see Kentaro’s father perform a Godzilla-sized jump, and as Apex pointed out the martial art he practices is part of broader systems like Taijutsu and Ninpō Taijutsu, then adding a ‘likely’ to Acrobatics seems unnecessary to me.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Both OP and Apex make some points. I'll hold off for now, since I'm not sure yet.

I think we could simply scale Kentaro’s father’s AP from Godzilla’s GPE, if you’re okay with that.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Could you show me the staff thread where this standard was established?

Acrobatics rewording

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Acrobatics I take problem specifically with the section of Enhanced Condition, that being "Leaping great distances" due to it being well way too broad application since any superhuman with decent leg strength would be getting that power then Also while we're at...

vsbattles.com

Also, Koppo is not a standalone martial art, but a component of broader systems like Taijutsu and Ninpō Taijutsu. While it focuses on striking bones and vital points, these disciplines also include acrobatics and movement techniques, meaning such skills come from the overall training rather than Koppo itself.

https://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/martialarts/img/ninjas.pdf

https://www.kusakagedojo.com/taijutsu.pdf

Can you give a source on where it says Kappo incorporates that?

Accelerated Development can be supported through training. Kentaro’s father surpassing his own master at a young age indicates an unusually fast rate of growth in skill, which fits the definition.

...where does it say that in the one-shot? Like, nothing is even said about Kentaro's father training, it just says he studied under Seishi Horibe.

I get your point, but it’s better to stick to what we can justify. The internals damage might suggest higher, but without a calc, it’s safer to keep it at 9-B.

Godzilla is the size of like a building in this, the attack also shakes the air and earth, "likely higher" is entirely fair here.

That argument misses the point. A “mere touch” doesn’t mean no strength, it means force is being applied in a very focused way.

Shattering someone’s spine through armor still requires significant physical force, so it’s not just technique, it reflects strength as well.

Throwing a proper punch is also a technique, that still doesn't mean the feat translates into LS.

Your version is more specific, especially with Koppo, but it’s incomplete and removes relevant abilities. It also mislabels durability, since the feat clearly involves durability negation through internal damage rather than raw toughness.

Could you explain why durability negation was removed from Kentaro’s father’s AP section? The technique targets specific points that regulate the body’s energy, allowing the user to inflict internal damage and even destroy internal organs through precise strikes rather than relying on raw force.

You may also want to update his Striking Strength to “At least Wall level” for consistency.

If you plan to replace the scans, please give them clear names instead of generic ones like ‘Screenshot from 2026-04-13 09-42-28.png’.”

Also, for future edits, I’ve noticed that the reference style often gets changed in the profiles you edit. I’d prefer to keep the existing format for consistency among the Godzilla pages, and I’d appreciate that being taken into account going forward.

1. I already explained why the stuff got removed.
2. Durability negation is just not AP, it already gets explained in the P&A section.
3. Sure.
4. Why do the scan names even matter here?
5. It's a one-shot comic, I think specifically here it's just more logical to not put the references across the page and just say in the bottom of the page the source.

This is a minor thing, but the Standard Format for Character Profiles clearly shows that a period should be placed at the end of the Weaknesses section, and it seems to have been removed from Kentaro’s profile.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kentar%C5%8D_(Godzilla)?diff=next&oldid=9472668

It has a period in the end of all the sections, which is something we clearly do not do at all. Why would the weakness section be an exception, the only times I've seen Weakness sections have periods is when they're divided into multiple sentences.

I was wondering why it’s necessary for Kentaro to have a Godzilla key. What matters is Kentaro himself and his stats, and even if he was Godzilla in a previous life, that isn’t his current state.

Because Godzilla is Kentaro...? Like, Kentaro is a baby possessed by Godzilla basically, it's just Godzilla's next life.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Your version is more specific, especially with Koppo, but it’s incomplete and removes relevant abilities. It also mislabels durability, since the feat clearly involves durability negation through internal damage rather than raw toughness.

Oh also the durability is like, not even changed from the OG page, but also like, what would your alternative be?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Can you give a source on where it says Kappo incorporates that?

The Bujinkan link shows that these are part of a broader system composed of multiple disciplines. Koppo isn’t treated as a standalone art, but as one component within that structure.

Bujinkan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

...where does it say that in the one-shot? Like, nothing is even said about Kentaro's father own dad doing the martial art, it just says he studied under Seishi Horibe.

He should qualify for Accelerated Development. His master’s best feat was shattering a spine at old age, yet he surpassed that at a much younger age by defeating Godzilla, indicating much faster progression.

Godzilla is the size of like a building in this, the attack also shakes the air and earth, "likely higher" is entirely fair here.

I get the point, but ‘likely higher’ still needs clearer support. The size and shockwave help, but without a calc it’s safer to stay conservative

Throwing a proper punch is also a technique, that still doesn't mean the feat translates into LS.

I already agreed it’s AP, not LS in my reply to Arceu0X.

1. I already explained why the stuff got removed.
2. Durability negation is just not AP, it already gets explained in the P&A section.
3. Sure.
4. Why do the scan names even matter here?
5. It's a one-shot comic, I think specifically here it's just more logical to not put the references across the page and just say in the bottom of the page the source.

I prefer keeping the structure as it is for consistency across the profiles I’ve made. The scan names and references are part of that organization, so I’d appreciate it if that format is maintained.

I understand your approach, but I prefer keeping references directly in the page for clarity. I haven’t commented on how you structure your pages, so I’d appreciate the same here.

It has a period in the end of all the sections, which is something we clearly do not do at all. Why would the weakness section be an exception, the only times I've seen Weakness sections have periods is when they're divided into multiple sentences.

I don’t see periods at the end of every section on Kentaro’s page. The edit history also shows only the Weaknesses section was changed.

Because Godzilla is Kentaro...? Like, Kentaro is a baby possessed by Godzilla basically, it's just Godzilla's next life.

Even then, that version of Godzilla only appears briefly. The focus of the story is Kentaro, not Godzilla.

Oh also the durability is like, not even changed from the OG page, but also like, what would your alternative be?

You added ‘Durability’ under P&A, that’s what I was referring to.

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

1. I already explained why the stuff got removed.
2. Durability negation is just not AP, it already gets explained in the P&A section.
3. Sure.
4. Why do the scan names even matter here?
5. It's a one-shot comic, I think specifically here it's just more logical to not put the references across the page and just say in the bottom of the page the source.

As stated by a Super Moderator, while no one technically ‘owns’ profiles, in practice the user who has contributed the most to a page tends to have the primary say over its format, as long as it doesn’t violate standard rules. This suggests that main contributors to a verse generally have leeway in how their pages are structured and presented. Since these edits follow the standard format, it would be preferable to keep the existing organization rather than change it based on personal preference.

 

[Tllmbrg]

He should qualify for Accelerated Development. His master’s best feat was shattering a spine at old age, yet he surpassed that at a much younger age by defeating Godzilla, indicating much faster progression.

That's not how that works, what? First of all the spine shatter was done by a guy from the Nara period, so unless you think his sensei is several centuries old, that's not the same guy. But even if it was, just because you have better feats than someone at a younger age does not mean you get Accelerated Development. Higher aptitude towards something does not mean anything here.
Also why are we assuming the guy is better, we just know they blew someone's spine out, not that it's their upper limit.

I get the point, but ‘likely higher’ still needs clearer support. The size and shockwave help, but without a calc it’s safer to stay conservative

Didn't you suggest to try and scale him to Godzilla's GPE? How is that more conservative than what I'm proposing?

I don’t see periods at the end of every section on Kentaro’s page. The edit history also shows only the Weaknesses section was changed.

No, I meant that in the Standard Character Format page, every section has a period in its end, so saying it's an example for why you should have a period in the end of yours is not good.

Even then, that version of Godzilla only appears briefly. The focus of the story is Kentaro, not Godzilla.

Okay but Kentaro is Godzilla, when he explains Godzilla's death he says "after my death" so idk why we wouldn't include a key for his previous version.

You added ‘Durability’ under P&A, that’s what I was referring to.

I see.

Anyways I guess for the style thing it's whatever, do you have like names for the scans you want me to put there, I can just edit their names (I'll try for now to swap out my scans for the ones in the existing page, it might work fine anyways).
I guess I'll edit back the citation, even if I disagree with it being there.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Apex's arguments make sense to me as well

 

[Tllmbrg]

Oh derp, I literally only now noticed I accidentally linked Durability instead of Durability Negation in the P&A section, mb.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Anyways I added back Acrobatics to Kentaro's Father page and linked the Bujinkan page in references.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

That's not how that works, what? First of all the spine shatter was done by a guy from the Nara period, so unless you think his sensei is several centuries old, that's not the same guy. But even if it was, just because you have better feats than someone at a younger age does not mean you get Accelerated Development. Higher aptitude towards something does not mean anything here.
Also why are we assuming the guy is better, we just know they blew someone's spine out, not that it's their upper limit.

I get your point, it’s more about rate of progression than age. Still, since we can’t establish the master’s limit, the comparison isn’t solid. I’m fine dropping the Accelerated Development argument.

Didn't you suggest to try and scale him to Godzilla's GPE? How is that more conservative than what I'm proposing?

Scaling from Godzilla’s GPE is actually conservative because it relies on calculated baseline values rather than assumptions. It gives a consistent low-end without needing to interpret the feat.

No, I meant that in the Standard Character Format page, every section has a period in its end, so saying it's an example for why you should have a period in the end of yours is not good.

I’m basing it on the Standard Format page, which shows punctuation at the end of sections. If I misunderstood your point, it’s because I’m following that as a reference.

Okay but Kentaro is Godzilla, when he explains Godzilla's death he says "after my death" so idk why we wouldn't include a key for his previous version.

I understand the connection, but that version of Godzilla is featless and only appears briefly. Since we don’t know if it’s meant to match other versions, scaling from it would be too ambiguous.

I see.

Anyways I guess for the style thing it's whatever, do you have like names for the scans you want me to put there, I can just edit their names.
I guess I'll edit back the citation, even if I disagree with it being there.

Sure, here are clearer names for the scans:

• Kentaro Father Confronts Godzilla
• Kentaro Father Godzilla Standoff
• Kentaro Father Attacks Godzilla
• Kentaro Father Strikes Godzilla Close Combat
• Kentaro Father Damages Godzilla
• Kentaro Father Shockwave Impact
• Kentaro Father Attack Aftermath
• Godzilla Reacts To Attack
• Godzilla Damaged By Kentaro Father
• Kentaro Father Final Blow

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot from 2026-04-13 09-40-45.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot from 2026-04-13 09-41-34.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-42-28.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-42-36.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-44-06.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-45-02.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-45-11.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-47-34.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-47-44.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-50-37.png

 

[CitRusReality64]

Most of Apex's arguments make more sense. Although I will agree that I think Tllmbrg is right on LS and Stamina

 

[Tllmbrg]

Scaling from Godzilla’s GPE is actually conservative because it relies on calculated baseline values rather than assumptions. It gives a consistent low-end without needing to interpret the feat.

What? Like, I don't mind the GPE since it's a calc, but how is "likely far higher" any wilder. It's just saying "This feat is probably a lot higher but we're not certain."

I’m basing it on the Standard Format page, which shows punctuation at the end of sections. If I misunderstood your point, it’s because I’m following that as a reference.

I'm not following you at all. Is your argument that the Standard Character page has a period in the end of the weakness section so you need on there in general?
If it is, then again all the stat sections in that example page have a period in the end, which is something we don't do in general. The periods there are cosmetic as far as far as I can tell.

Sure, here are clearer names for the scans:

• Kentaro Father Confronts Godzilla
• Kentaro Father Godzilla Standoff
• Kentaro Father Attacks Godzilla
• Kentaro Father Strikes Godzilla Close Combat
• Kentaro Father Damages Godzilla
• Kentaro Father Shockwave Impact
• Kentaro Father Attack Aftermath
• Godzilla Reacts To Attack
• Godzilla Damaged By Kentaro Father
• Kentaro Father Final Blow

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot from 2026-04-13 09-40-45.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot from 2026-04-13 09-41-34.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-42-28.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-42-36.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-44-06.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-45-02.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-45-11.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-47-34.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-47-44.png

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Screenshot_from_2026-04-13_09-50-37.png

I already swapped the scans in my draft for the existing ones in the current page, is that fine as is?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

What? Like, I don't mind the GPE since it's a calc, but how is "likely far higher" any wilder. It's just saying "This feat is probably a lot higher but we're not certain."

Alright, I've been thinking about it, and the feat of making the sky shaking surely justifies it.

I'm not following you at all. Is your argument that the Standard Character page has a period in the end of the weakness section so you need on there in general?
If it is, then again all the stat sections in that example page have a period in the end, which is something we don't do in general. The periods there are cosmetic as far as far as I can tell.

In that case, could you guide me when it should be used? I assumed it’s grammatically correct to add a period at the end of the weakness section.

I already swapped the scans in my draft for the existing ones in the current page, is that fine as is?

Yeah, that’s fine. Thanks for updating them, I appreciate it.

Okay but Kentaro is Godzilla, when he explains Godzilla's death he says "after my death" so idk why we wouldn't include a key for his previous version.

I was also thinking that maybe this could work if only Kentaro’s Godzilla key uses GPE, since those calculations represent a minimum baseline for kaiju-level energy. Since we’re not sure if this Godzilla is meant to be the same as the movie versions, he could possibly have the Godzilla physiology and something like Class M lifting strength. If we can agree on that compromise, it could work.

 

[Tllmbrg]

In that case, could you guide me when it should be used? I assumed it’s grammatically correct to add a period at the end of the weakness section.

As far as I'm aware if the weakness is just one single sentence then there is no period. If you split it into two or more sentences, each one gets a period.

I was also thinking that maybe this could work if only Kentaro’s Godzilla key uses GPE, since those calculations represent a minimum baseline for kaiju-level energy. Since we’re not sure if this Godzilla is meant to be the same as the movie versions, he could possibly have the Godzilla physiology and something like Class M lifting strength. If we can agree on that compromise, it could work.

Don't mind the GPE and whatever stats come from that.
I feel like seeing that this version possesses a child post-death, assuming it's the movie version would be weird, so I'd go against the physiology page.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

As far as I'm aware if the weakness is just one single sentence then there is no period. If you split it into two or more sentences, each one gets a period.

Understood.

Don't mind the GPE and whatever stats come from that.
I feel like seeing that this version possesses a child post-death, assuming it's the movie version would be weird, so I'd go against the physiology page.

I think it depends on how we want to approach it. At the time the manga was published, the only Godzilla versions were Showa (50 meters, 20,000 tons) and Heisei (100 meters, 60,000 tons), and most manga depictions were based on those. From the panels shown, using the low-end seems more reasonable.

As for abilities, what would you suggest including?

 

[Tllmbrg]

I think it depends on how we want to approach it. At the time the manga was published, the only Godzilla versions were Showa (50 meters, 20,000 tons) and Heisei (100 meters, 60,000 tons), and most manga depictions were based on those. From the panels shown, using the low-end seems more reasonable.

As for abilities, what would you suggest including?

-Large Size (Type 1; Comparable to buildings in size. Furthermore, it is likely based on either Showa or Heisei Godzillas, who are 50 to 100 meters respectively)
-Bodily Weaponry (Has visible claws and sharp teeth)
-It gets the Immortality/Possession as well.

For stats:
-AP is GPE.
-Speed it's probably subsonic travel speed or whatever a creature his size gets. Same thing for range.
-Durability I'd check what type of missiles Japan had at the time, since the comic starts with them saying Godzilla is getting bombed without it taking much damage. Heck it further says that even their most advance stuff can not stop it.
-Stamina is superhuman since it took several days to die despite its insides being blown up.
-Intelligence remains the same between keys.
-No notable weaknesses.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

-Large Size (Type 1; Comparable to buildings in size. Furthermore, it is likely based on either Showa or Heisei Godzillas, who are 50 to 100 meters respectively)
-Bodily Weaponry (Has visible claws and sharp teeth)
-It gets the Immortality/Possession as well.

For stats:
-AP is GPE.
-Speed it's probably subsonic travel speed or whatever a creature his size gets. Same thing for range.
-Durability I'd check what type of missiles Japan had at the time, since the comic starts with them saying Godzilla is getting bombed without it taking much damage. Heck it further says that even their most advance stuff can not stop it.
-Stamina is superhuman since it took several days to die despite its insides being blown up.
-Intelligence remains the same between keys.
-No notable weaknesses.

The proposals seem fine, but they still need to be evaluated and accepted.

 

[Tllmbrg]

@Random-Helper323 @DarkDragonMedeus since you two already commented on the thread.

 

[Oiguana2701]

I mostly agree with Apex here, though Tllmbrg's suggestions are correct regarding Stamina, LS and Kentaro's new Godzilla key.

 

[Nonynho]

i think Apex made a lot of sense, though i'd like to ask both him and tllmbrg:
Is this guy really 9-B? OP states 9-C which i think a high-end of could exert the armor feat, no? or we have any 9-B value that represents the feat?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Is this guy really 9-B? OP states 9-C which i think a high-end of could exert the armor feat, no? or we have any 9-B value that represents the feat?

The current plan is to scale him from Goji, while also adding a “likely higher” qualifier to his tier, as he is shown to shock the sky when doing so.

 

[Nonynho]

The current plan is to scale him from Goji, while also adding a “likely higher” qualifier to his tier, as he is shown to shock the sky when doing so.

bet

Then i'm with ya in this one, hope the proper evaluation of stamina, durability, etc come soon

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

my opinions are the same as Apex's

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I agree with Apex's recent points mostly.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I agree with Apex and Ztes

 

[Random-Helper323]

I think I mostly agree with Apex.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I agree with Apex and Ztes

I think I mostly agree with Apex.

I made a draft of how Kentaro’s profile would look with the addition of the Godzilla key. Would you mind taking a look at it?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Apex_Predator_GX/Kentaro

 

[Tllmbrg]

So wait, would the Father jump to 8-C then?
Cuz I don't think the Shockwave stuff is gonna get higher than that.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

So wait, would the Father jump to 8-C then?

Yeah, basically.

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

I made a draft of how Kentaro’s profile would look with the addition of the Godzilla key. Would you mind taking a look at it?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Apex_Predator_GX/Kentaro

Actually, thinking about it, Kentaro is far stronger than a regular human baby, so he probably shouldn't still have “standard human weaknesses.”