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Invincible Season 4 General Discussion Thread

Does the ship feat even stack up to Season 1 Mark stopping an Asteroid? The cast struggling with that is probably an outlier.
I was thinking about that too during that scene... I remember Omniman saying he once manhandled Astroid the size of Texas or smth. This one seems like an outlier to me.
 
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To be fair we really don't know anything about the Asteroid feat Omniman was talking about. Especially since he could slow it down over the large distance. Same goes for Mark's feat since we cut him already pushing against the asteroid for an unknown period of time.

Besides that Class M is actually very consistent.
 
Then we have one Class G feat vs several Class M feats.

I suppose we can leave it be for now.
 
Idk what discussion is going on right but are we going to be making a Profile for Thaedus??? We have a Comics Profile for Thaedus but not a Show one and he has some very good feats and a lot of them from the Battle of Talescria where he kills a Viltrumite, clashes with Kregg and Anissa and has the upper hand for like all the fights he's in that episode.
 
Idk what discussion is going on right but are we going to be making a Profile for Thaedus??? We have a Comics Profile for Thaedus but not a Show one and he has some very good feats and a lot of them from the Battle of Talescria where he kills a Viltrumite, clashes with Kregg and Anissa and has the upper hand for like all the fights he's in that episode.
Please let's wait for the upcoming CRTs before adding more profiles
 
Idk what discussion is going on right but are we going to be making a Profile for Thaedus??? We have a Comics Profile for Thaedus but not a Show one and he has some very good feats and a lot of them from the Battle of Talescria where he kills a Viltrumite, clashes with Kregg and Anissa and has the upper hand for like all the fights he's in that episode.
That feat alone is worth a profile imo. Straight up overpowering and killing another Viltrumite 1v1 that survived the virus is already more impressive than most of the stuff his comics counterpart did iirc.
 
That feat alone is worth a profile imo. Straight up overpowering and killing another Viltrumite 1v1 that survived the virus is already more impressive than most of the stuff his comics counterpart did iirc.
Which is why I asked, Thaedus kills a Viltrumite on screen. Thaedus also clashes with other Viltrumites like Kregg and Anissa where he dominates, likely would've even killed Kregg if the 1v1 continued.

We have profiles for characters like Shapesmith and Martian Man who have way less showcases than what Thaedus did in 1 episode
 
omniman having planetary LS is almost certainly an outlier now with them struggling with that ship
Kirkman probably wanted to give them a big teamup/Avengers scene before we get the true teamup in Ep 7/8 and Kirkman hates powerscaling, so yes by all means it should be an outlier
 
omniman having planetary LS is almost certainly an outlier now with them struggling with that ship
Nah. It's just comic inconsistency as usual. Sadly Invincible verse is plague by it. Invincible is mostly know for having inconsistent power scaling since Kiriman doesn't careless for it. Anyways, the Ship feat is just one of those anti feats. Besides, the scene looks like the power of friendship
 
Hey, at least Hazbin Hotel beats Invincible on something besides music and animation...the powerscaling
 
Hey, at least Hazbin Hotel beats Invincible on something besides music and animation...the powerscaling
Get those table and rock vitims out of here
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Now, the viltrumites are bad and ****** up, but they at least aren't sadists or sociopaths, they are just taught a different way of live (that is mostly "strength = your worth in the world" if you are "weak = dead"), and they are only racists based on strength, not on appearence.
The Exorcist on other hand, are self righteous by nature just because they are angels and angels are superior to anything, they are extremely sadistic, they won't care for you in the slightest if you ever betray them, show no mercy under any circumstance and if you are just from Hell or even have something with hell, they will consider you a inferior and you will be ******* gone.
 
What's stopping a page for the Leader of the Coalition of Planets who we know will get more fights later alone that will likely upscale him far more
I'd rather prefer we get around evaluating this season's feats first so he has an updated tier from the get go. Also figuring out how these guys' speed works, which is currently on hold as I'm waiting for certain calc
 
Thaddeus didn't get an upgrade in the show. Kicking ass in a multi opponent fight is just something that naturally happens when you are voiced by Peter Cullen.

But seriously I wonder if Thragg one shotting him will be replaced by a actual battle or if they hyped up Thaddeus specifically to make Thragg more impressive.

Also is it me or are Viltrumites kinda stupid. So the garbage ship liks Venture has proton missiles than can destroy a solar disk, but these guys and their massive cruiser lacks any large scale damage options ?
 
One more interesting thing. Allen mentions that if they get behind Collation lines, their guns would tear the Viltrumites apart.

So Battleship guns > Viltrumite durability. Which is supported by the starting of the episode where a Viltrumite woman dodges all the shots, which is something she wouldn't do if it couldn't hurt her.
 
I really hate how Kirkman gassed Viltrumites up as this unstoppable force requiring specific weaknesses in order to kill, only to say regular coalition cruisers have capability to kill them. It kinda defeats the purpose of Nolan and Allen looking for weaknesses whenever there normal ass military can deal with them. It's also really starting to bug me that Kirkman see's the need to extend every fight from the comic, even when it makes little narrative sense for a character to have a long fight. Like did we really need to see Nolan getting pieced up and bled by a bug he one-shot in the comics? Not every fight needs to have high stakes, especially if it contradicts established power consistency.
 
One more interesting thing. Allen mentions that if they get behind Collation lines, their guns would tear the Viltrumites apart.

So Battleship guns > Viltrumite durability. Which is supported by the starting of the episode where a Viltrumite woman dodges all the shots, which is something she wouldn't do if it couldn't hurt her.
Funny how you were so against the statement of Nolan moving a planet but now you're so happy to jump to a STATEMENT that isn't backed up by showings at all, like Allen said that and yet we have never seem any of those battleships killed a single viltrumite ever
 
Funny how you were so against the statement of Nolan moving a planet but now you're so happy to jump to a STATEMENT that isn't backed up by showings at all, like Allen said that and yet we have never seem any of those battleships killed a single viltrumite ever
Two completely different statements.

Nolan moving a planet isn't even a statement. He mentions the "planet was moved" . No mention of how, how long it took, the team size, any use of technology. Nothing. Plus on-screen story literally contradicts this feat with him struggling to hold up a ship. Meaning most likely he moved the planet through other means.

While Allen statement is clear and precise. He specifically mentions "Viltrumites" , "Shot at" by "Coalition's guns". It is a highly specific statement by a character on the Viltrumites tire.

But wait there is more. Unlike Nolan's "statement", the on screen story literally confirms this with Viltrumites constantly avoiding being tagged by the ships shots, which they wouldn't need to unless it damages them.

So learn the difference. I have a problem with Nolan moving a planet because it isn't even a statement and contradicted within the show.
 
Two completely different statements.

Nolan moving a planet isn't even a statement. He mentions the "planet was moved" . No mention of how, how long it took, the team size, any use of technology. Nothing. Plus on-screen story literally contradicts this feat with him struggling to hold up a ship. Meaning most likely he moved the planet through other means.

While Allen statement is clear and precise. He specifically mentions "Viltrumites" , "Shot at" by "Coalition's guns". It is a highly specific statement by a character on the Viltrumites tire.

But wait there is more. Unlike Nolan's "statement", the on screen story literally confirms this with Viltrumites constantly avoiding being tagged by the ships shots, which they wouldn't need to unless it damages them.

So learn the difference. I have a problem with Nolan moving a planet because it isn't even a statement and contradicted within the show.
Your "credible" statement never happened in the show btw, no Viltrumite has ever shown being killed by those battleships at all, unlike the planet that was moved and Kirkman himself saying that Omni-Man would moved a planet in Season 4 interview...
So sorry, but your "totally" different statement is even less credible that the one of Nolan moving a planet, not matter how much you try to think otherwise
 
Your "credible" statement never happened in the show btw, no Viltrumite has ever shown being killed by those battleships at all, unlike the planet that was moved and Kirkman himself saying that Omni-Man would moved a planet in Season 4 interview...
So sorry, but your "totally" different statement is even less credible that the one of Nolan moving a planet, not matter how much you try to think otherwise
Yeah sure, allat to shit his pants moving a ship. Sure sure. Go you will do numbers in the YouTube shorts power scaling.
 
Then we have one Class G feat vs several Class M feats.

I suppose we can leave it be for now.
There are two Class G feats for Season 1 Mark and an insanely casual Class T feat for Nolan. Along with the planet pushing statement and the asteroid diverting statement, we're also gonna get Thragg's statement that the Viltrumites can tear Earth in half assuming that doesn't get changed. There's also the showrunner saying that season 3 Mark could move the Moon if he put his back into it. Also also Nolan flying a ship out of a black hole's gravitational influence should be Class E.
1 Class G feat that's lower than the weaker of Season 1 Mark's Class G feats, and far below Nolan's incredibly casual Class T feat already makes it an outlier, let alone the multiple statements implying they're way stronger than even those feats.
 
It's also really starting to bug me that Kirkman see's the need to extend every fight from the comic, even when it makes little narrative sense for a character to have a long fight. Like did we really need to see Nolan getting pieced up and bled by a bug he one-shot in the comics? Not every fight needs to have high stakes, especially if it contradicts established power consistency.
So much this. It's lead to widely spread headcanons that try to make up the inconsistencies like the Reanimen or Immortal
 
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