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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

 
Why can't we just accept that heaven is a separate universe and the "heaven" planet we see is just a massive gate? Probably because it would bump Lucifer to solar and mftl or something...
 
DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt said:
Why can't we just accept that heaven is a separate universe and the "heaven" planet we see is just a massive gate? Probably because it would bump Lucifer to solar and mftl or something...
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It don't even matter at this point lmfao, cause his ass is getting downgraded too most likely.
 
DeadlyMonarchChewstheDirt said:
But Lucifer should still be tier 5, and I'm upsetty that someone might actually be able to argue that he isn't despite it being one of the only real feats he has
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It would just be downgrading his physicals, right? It's extremely common for god tier characters not to scale to their own attacks in physicals, really.
 
What's the potential for trying to scale Alastors Physicality to around 566Tons since he was able to completely block a Semi Serious Attack from Adam?
 
OmenISTIRED said:
What's the potential for trying to scale Alastors Physicality to around 566Tons since he was able to completely block a Semi Serious Attack from Adam?
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0, i ain't scaling Al to that. the staff clearly holds all his magic and got cut like butter by Adam's holy light. at most, it heavily upscales Alastor's durability aince it saved him from getting bisceted initially but it ain't scaling to Adam's HL since it literally got spit cleanly in half
 
"Durability: least Building level, At least City block level+, Small town level with Barrier (impenetrable to Angelic Weapons, which can draw blood from Lucifer), far higher with Staff (Contains a great deal of Alastor's power. Nullified a blast from Adam at the cost of it's condition)
 
DarkLock92 said:
So we have Adam > Alastor's barrier > Angelic Weapons > (Lucifer >) Adam now?
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Don't forget Random Exorcist #286 too
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Lu>Adam>Alastor's Staff>Alastor's Barrier>Charlie's shield>AW is my intended L7C scaling chain
AWs drew blood from him, meaning they can harm him, but they only did minor damage.
 
Sadly, thise 6 things are in a weird feedback loop with each other, much like how Velvette, Husk, Val, Niffty, Cherri, and, surprisingly, Angel Dust are in some weird feedback loop
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
after getting beat down by the top 1 in the verse in his strongest form while enhanced by magic but go off
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You don't become the strength of an ant after getting punched lol

Adam punching away Alastor's barrier doesn't make sense any way you spin it really.
Well maybe besides arguing that Adam can like concentrate his light energy or whatever into his fists to amp his physical stats Ig?
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
after getting beat down by the top 1 in the verse in his strongest form while enhanced by magic but go off
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Eh, maybe. Still got stabbed by Charlie deep enough to be thrown around.
Though to be fair the pitchfork has much longer blades than the MoL's cables so it makes sense that they'd go deeper
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Adam punching away Alastor's barrier doesn't make sense any way you spin it really.
Well maybe besides arguing that Adam can like concentrate his light energy or whatever into his fists to amp his physical stats Ig?
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It's moreso AWs denting against Al's barrier that is the problem Imo
 
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His punch did create like a yellow fissure throughout the barrier, so maybe it is the amplification thing. UES is alive???
DarkLock92 said:
It's moreso AWs denting against Al's barrier that is the problem Imo
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Tbf they didn't dent, just bounced off. Some of their shafts broke, but I doubt those are made of Angelic Steel.
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Adam punching away Alastor's barrier doesn't make sense any way you spin it really.
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Alastor’s regular magic is far below General of Exorcists, don’t forget he had to amp his magic with green lightning thingy & Demon Form to match, while shield didn’t have any of that. So it’s simply General of Exorcists > Alastor’s Demon Form/Peak Magic > Alastor Regular Magic stuff.
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
Alastor’s regular magic is far below General of Exorcists, don’t forget he had to amp his magic with green lightning thingy & Demon Form to match, while shield didn’t have any of that. So it’s simply General of Exorcists > Alastor’s Demon Form/Peak Magic > Alastor Regular Magic stuff.
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Problem is less to do with the power gap between Adam and Alastor and more to do with how Adam somehow one punched the big shield that was completely impervious to Angelic Weapons and yet still gets cut like paper mache whenever an Angelic Weapon touches him.
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Problem is less to do with the power gap between Adam and Alastor and more to do with how Adam somehow one punched the big shield that was completely impervious to Angelic Weapons and yet still gets cut like paper mache whenever an Angelic Weapon touches him.
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I think him being beaten up is most likely explanation, especially since he is supposed to be well above his subordinates. But if not, yeah, other explanations are what you said (either he amped his punch or it's simply an outlier), or maybe even Alastor simply let the shield break so they can fight or smth (he does look like he was expecting that).

Whatever y'all go with ig.
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Problem is less to do with the power gap between Adam and Alastor and more to do with how Adam somehow one punched the big shield that was completely impervious to Angelic Weapons and yet still gets cut like paper mache whenever an Angelic Weapon touches him.
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I mean, someone could probably break something with their blunt force, which a knife can't, but the knife will still pierce you.
 
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