If your only choice is to subdue/beat your crush without killing her, I'd rather beat her up than pouring acid on her. + You didn't make a good point, pouring acid on her won't knock her out.
First off, you're insanely exaggerating how the acid is used here, it's not literally pouring acid, it's injecting it to temporarily subdue your opponent, which he can if he injects her face or anything like that, yet he chooses to lick her instead when he could've easily used his needle.
The eldritch J would have time to attack him if he choose to do that method. She ain't immobile.
Eldritch J is way more limited in space to move due to size and N quite literally used ninja stars before it could even respond.
It would have, but you gotta remember that Cyn made those tails for them.
Okay? Didn't know creating something means they're immune to it now.
You'll have to prove it does.
Maybe try reading the past 10 messages I've sent here.
Alastor wasn't what? More skilled or faster? He's definitely more skilled and he definitely had better speed during the fight until Adam got enraged.
Riddle me this. Would it be more painful if I knock you out or if I insert an acid into you?
Try inserting acid into someone's face and tell me how it feels.
He didn't even know what part of what was happening there was even real.(Also bro immediately targeted the heart with nanite acid)
They literally saw Eldritch J's face, and it doesn't negate the fact he didn't even attempt to do it or give a thought about it.
Wrong fight. That reply was for the Cyn fight.
What kind of logic is that he didn't have enough time to think about his tail? Did he instead have enough time to turn his hand into a weapon and use it instead of using the literal body part he has?
So can we drop the skill point? Given that they are both skilled.
They both aren't, but sure, since it isn't a wincon for either.
No? Unless it's stated he's made entirely of pure light.
Did you even bother to check Adam's page before arguing about this? Why do you think he has inorganic physiology?
This is just wrong. In ep 2, her reaction was normal to it. This means that this had happened before.(Even her baby hologram had the solver in it, implying that she always had it)
No it doesn't? That's not even what a normal reaction is, she was literally concerned. Not to mention she didn't have any of the solver's abilities, we aren't just going to assume she somehow had some of the pros of the solver and some not.
That he didn't 'dodge' most of Alastor's attack
Yeah, cause him dodging or blocking attacks would obviously make the outcome different. You're genuinely arguing about useless stuff.
The needle one shots Uzi and other characters with the 701 ZT durability. While Adam is merely 2.4 times above N's AP
So does Angelic weapons. Also:
You need to prove that "one shot difference" would be over 14x level of difference in the verse, which you can't.
Can you provide the CRT where it states that the calc used there is the heat value.(Because that calc was rejected and pulverisation was accepted instead).
No, and I'm not required to as it's literally accepted on his profile. The CRT wasn't even accepted.
So you apparently didn't say either of this?
We are really downplaying how well Cyn fought btw
Watch the show properly before downplaying it or don't enter this argument.
Cyn was actually skillfully using her solver abilities and showed mastery with her sword...
Mind you, you didn't even make a proper argument to why Cyn actually has sword mastery, and when I told you not to reply to it if all you're going to do is just make claims, you say "watch the show properly."
So he won't open with it...
Find any message of me claiming that he would open with it. If Adam is getting damaged by the acid and realizes he cant' win, he'll just fly away and use his holy light which would immediately incinerate N.
This is literally just straight ignorance of N personality and his characters, you cannot use logic in arguments which limped to B as a different characters in your take, he is not cold enough to kill a gis close people for no reason nor have a actually reason for this, you have to prove your reasoning for N to do it sp
I literally did not understand a single word you just said, besides "he is not cold enough to kill a gis" which the acid wouldn't even kill them as they are all able to regenerate from it.
I just released that he didn't use his full arsenal because he didn't have a time to use it since Uzi Ruilguin to explode lol, anyway, guess you just disproved your argument, by the fact that N literally didn't have a time for use his nanites, Ruilguin just started to explode so they didn't have a time to deal with a J
He did have enough time though, it feels like everyone is ignoring that before the railgun was about to explode, there was a whole sequence where they were saving Thad and questioning J.
Yeah? Because that's their arsenals with high AEO or the same AP value, he just didn't have a time nor think he should able to keep up, consistent J should spawn her holograms to distracts as much as they can.
His tail arguably has better AP value, as it literally pierced through Uzi's hand, and negates regeneration.
So you just stopped a refutation which we started in the beginning? Cool, I'll take it as coin for my argumention if you wouldn't continue actually refutation with vaild explanation like why it doesn't disprove it.
No? None of your previous argument actually impacts whether or not Adam can regenerate from the nanites. This isn't a discord debate, you don't have a valid argumentation. (learn how to spell)
Picking a non important details instead of actually arguments huh ? Nice I guess. Anyway, guess you just will keep ignore that you can use your abilities with combination of the skill in combat, that's will be equal to your B/Q therefore translate to N (as he actually showed to keep up with a Cyn)
Well you're obviously blind because I did address the rest of the argument.
Cyn was casually defeating everyone from way before that specific fight. She also used Uzi's body at some point and defeated a better skilled Nori by overwhelming them with her abilities, despite the fact she was clearly worse in skill.
Obviously I didn't say that.
Please prove it, because without any help, she literally lost to Uzi in basic combat if she couldn't use a hologram, she would been cooked. (No seriously, in this scene, Uzi literally fighting a fair while Cyn most of the time snitch attacks or just manipulation)
I'm not referring to that specific fight, I'm referring to all their fights in general. Also Cyn was literally toying with Uzi, she literally manages to start overwhelming all 3 of them together when they fight her. There's a literal sequence in the fight where each of them have a short 1v1 with Cyn, and all of them literally lose before being saved by each other.
Well, you didn't proved it , Frist I don't think it was actually Cyn but solver itself.
Cyn is still bound by core while absolute solver doesn't have any boundaries on vessels like simple host's and can just possessing others. However, I guess we can accept that solver skill should translate to Cyn anyways. Back to my argument, you didn't proved actually a reason why Cyn should have a good skill and N wouldn't translate to this since Frist; N and Nori clearly didn't tried to kill Uzi since that's literally her daughter and Nori wouldn't forgive home of she will do something to her. The secondly; Nori already showed at least intellectual skill against Solver (she was able to cut her claws in fews parts of Uzi body , so she has a skill in basics weapons) and N was able to keep up with Nori against possessed Uzi.
Maybe N is not really skilled like a Cyn and Uzi, he still preformed to keep with them (not even talking about that Cyn created them for a murdering a whole humanity and host's of the solver, so I just don't see a logical reason why N shouldn't have better against Adam tbh)
...? My claim is that Cyn
doesn't have good skill, not that she does. My whole point is literally that Cyn is only winning fights because she's overwhelming them with her abilities, not that she's overpowering them with pure skill. You saying that Nori and N didn't try to kill Uzi is further proving my point, Cyn was getting out-skilled by Nori, who was weaker than usual.
You stuck at the same scene where she just showed projections of herself to confuse Uzi but
She just predicted her next move otherwise she would get hit.
Literally an argument that doesn't even mention swords lol.
You started to circulate argument I see , guess you just stopped giving a actual arguments and keeping the same arguments over and over again while I already explained, like see, I already agree pm this and this my point but you still didn't realize that's it's his flaw? If he should at least take it seriously, then it wouldn't happen, he literally needed to use a holy light to distract Alastor and only after this, defeating him(a bum disguisen ngl, N should never.)
I said that despite Adam not taking Alastor seriously, he was still unable to be hit by Alastor, except when he was taken off-guard. There's literally nothing hard to understand here. Adam will still dodge attacks from N, whether or not he's more skilled ,and it has nothing to do with him underestimating him, because he underestimated Alastor, yet dodged all attacks, except the surprise ones.
I guess Occam razor is just crying rn
Buddy, this isn't a discord debate, we're on VSBW, we argue based on what is accepted on the profiles.
Literally was able to use some moves and then using Ruilguin to one shot him, sure.
Using moves to dodge when she didn't even hit him, + using a Railgun she doesn't even scale to.
Yeaaah, let's forget that she immediately blocked his tail with hand so he shouldn't use acid on her vision or worse.
She didn't even properly block it, she already had her hand on her face. Any literal random unexperienced human could put their hand on their face before a knife stabs him, that doesn't make him skilled.
So you just proved her B/Q , trying to imitate a weak drone and let her aponent thinks that they won. Tho J only stopped Uzi at this moment because she used EMP against her.
That doesn't prove she wasn't helpless against J? She was only able to win by waiting for J to start monologuing to distract herself. That's not a showcase of combat, power or skill.
We already saw her skill in episode 7 so please.
I never claimed that Nori wasn't skilled, in fact I claimed the opposite. Cyn still couldn't properly fight against her without overwhelming her with abilities, which seems to me like something I have to repeat 10x for you to get.
Never saying anything about it.
Which means that V killing Yeva is irrelevant to this point, as Adam has resistance to regeneration negation, which would work on the nanites, while solver hosts don't.
It should been work, if dissembly drones
didn't spray acid until before hitting their target. So piercing attack wouldn't be matter here much.
Disassembly drones literally don't spray anything? All that N did was stab her hand. Adam has higher durability so this doesn't matter.
