Adam (Hazbin Hotel) Serial Designation N (Murder Drones) (COMPLETED.)

[DarkLock92]

You still put feats there...

A few do but it’s not exactly a huge priority. Pages like The Beheaded dive into his acrobatic and combat skill but it’s rather rare.

Fair enough
Tbh MD pages are pretty bare bones in regards to stats

 

[Kirua29]

An example I wanna give Tungsten metal can endure 3000°C just fine, stays solid but glows bright. Similar to N actually. While just at 3422°C it starts melting. On paper it's only 16% but on practice it's pretty important. Although I don't know how the wiki handles this difference.

What I mean is that I don't think there's such a thing as a one-shot deal.

 

[Mythic381]

That’s normal, he’s not trying to hurt her, let alone kill her.

He literally hit her at the end of the fight by the way. N knows V can regenerate from it, yet chooses not to.

So even if he only used it at the end, the fight was short—so in reality, he used it quickly.

Using it against a heart that is running isn't the same as using it in an active fight.

The only point where I agree, but at the same time he struggled against her in close combat so it was harder to throw the nanites at her.

He's not throwing nanites? He was able at some point to literally cut her head. No reason he couldn't use his nanites.

N’s saliva was able to regenerate her because it also neutralizes the nanites, regeneration wouldn’t have been possible without first neutralizing them, which Adam can’t do.

If someone regenerated after his body was fully blown up, yes he can, as the nanites wouldn't eat his body for eternity.

If you want, but it doesn’t change my argument.

This isn't a case of choice.

Indeed, you’re right, so that would mean It’s below the speed of light.

The calculation isn't used on the profile, so no.

1. Uzi blocked his tail while N tried to target her CPU/proccesor, so she couldn't able to fight back (so N should just target his head to slow his prepection, in procces to kill him )
2. It's temporally destroyed Nori body which should only make her suffer, proccesing to eat her body alive what we still don't know what happened to her Body itself (so it's possible just corrused due acid)

1. Didn't start with that in the fight, nor did she even have her hand in a place that would've blocked him from directly killing her.
2. Using it against someone helpless and not fighting isn't the same as using it in an active fight.

Please watch it carefully, it says that he detected Uzi special plot ability.
You also can ignore it in the fact that he used it against Uzi anyway.

This is literally a gag, it's not like she literally has plot armor as an ability. He didn't literally use it in any other fights.

I mean, of you allowing the fact that Cyn shouldn't able to use forcefield when N tried to get closer, should said that absolute solver can block it

Which she didn't use when her head got cut off. Nice.

That's not true, she literally showed that she the same sword including her tentacles and claws

Wow, I used a sword so I'm automatically good at using it!

But he still shi talk a lot, which should just let him make his position weaker due the fact that N will just start to adapt to his combat

That didn't stop him from actively dodging Alastor's attacks. In fact, he was only hit when Alastor surprise attacked him.

Simply saying, 'he'd regenerate after' is not an argument

Obviously it isn't when you fail to read prior arguments.

Why wouldn't his resistance work? Angelic weapons outright negate Sinner's regeneration, with an example of a sinner literally regenerating in a short time after being blown up by a town level attack while his durability is way lower. This isn't even to mention that Adam can still dodge N's attacks as again, N wouldn't start by using it.

The nanites ain't immortal.

Kinda off is when you realise the first thing he does is slam on the ground...

That doesn't prove he starts by using his nanites?

Are we fr? "Which weapons"
Literally all of them have one shotted WDs or DDs one time or another.

DDs mostly use ranged weapons. Specify which weapons you're referring to.

Watch the show properly before downplaying it or don't enter this argument.
Cyn was actually skillfully using her solver abilities and showed mastery with her sword...

Swinging a sword a couple of times and dodging a couple of times is not a showcase of sword mastery. She lost said sword in the dumbest way later on by the way.

N entered the fight here and the fight ended like 10 seconds later + given the fact that the railgun was about to explode, using nanite acid instead of keeping J away from them would have been a terrible idea.

So this whole sequence he was just incapable of fighting? Here too, when he was using his chainsaw hands.

What is the point here??? There was no fight between N and Uzi, hence he didn't have to use any of his weapons.

Whole sequence.

Because she didn't give them time to breathe? And I already told you why he was reliant on the good old "Stab Stab" rather than Nanite Acid(which you did not debunk here btw)

She didn't give him time to breathe, yet he was able to literally slice her head off. The nanites is arguably more effective than just slicing her head off, not to mention would've been easier for a surprise attack. Jus saying he relied on something doesn't negate the other choice.

How exactly??? You're justifying your point by repeating the same thing. I want to know how resistance angelic regen neg makes you resistant to corrosion when they are both based on different things.

Because the corrosion in question would end up breaking his material down, which he can regenerate from.

And you can't even argue that the corrosion works slowly when DDs and Solver Drones have been shown to regenerate just as fast if not faster than Sinners in hell, and yet their regen could not keep up with it.

Uzi didn't have the solver just always active within her lol. She didn't even regenerate till he used his saliva.

 

[Mythic381]

Well, too bad, I already changed my mind about it and it get downgraded to supersonic+ from Duker reasoning.

You changed your mind so we'll just listen to you rather than listen to the profile. Aight

 

[Mythic381]

Now, since I didn't get to make actual arguments from Adam, here we go:

Adam has over a 2x AP advantage over N, while having a whopping ~390× to ~5,300× LS advantage over N.

Speed is equalized, yet Adam's holy light is accepted to upscale from Adam. I don't recall if the speed equalization rules would make it still faster than Adam or equal to his speed, but in either situations N would likely get hit, due to the fact he would either be slower, or wouldn't actually expect Adam to have light he can shoot from his fingers.

Holy light has a temperature of 3,500°C, while N's heat resistance doesn't have a specific temperature, as it would vary a lot from friction heat, which can go from lower than Adam's value to higher, so we can't really assume much.

Adam can also negate regeneration and immortality with all his arsenal. (punches, axe, holy light, etc)

Adam can also create shockwaves and has BFR, which could help him if he's in a losing situation.

N realistically has no way of fully killing Adam or fully destroying his body to force his overtime regeneration.

 

[DarkLock92]

Adam has over a 2x AP advantage over N, while having a whopping ~390× to ~5,300× LS advantage over N.

OP should have specified this but N's weapons are quite higher than his value, given that they're able to one-shot worker drones

Not that I think it matters due to Adam's regeneration

Edit: also N himself upscales from his own value

 

[DarkLock92]

Anyway I'm voting Adam
Honestly this fight would be more interesting with the other Disassembly Drones added

 

[ShionAH]

Going with The Dickmaster

 

[ShionAH]

As it would vary a lot from friction heat, which can go from lower than Adam's value to higher

At its highest but fair interpretation it would still be 500 degrees less than Adam.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Do you have any idea how big of an difference that is? Especially in Celcius? Try going in a room at 0 °C and then 500 °C.

Huh... if we can survive in rooms getting from 20 to 40°C, then why is casually surviving 3000 °C somehow means dying to 3500 °C? Do we die the second we get in a 50 °C room? We work on ratios here.

 

[DarkLock92]

Huh... if we can survive in rooms getting from 20 to 40°C, then why is casually surviving 3000 °C somehow means dying to 3500 °C? Do we die the second we get in a 50 °C room? We work on ratios here.

This is what Shion had to say:

An example I wanna give Tungsten metal can endure 3000°C just fine, stays solid but glows bright. Similar to N actually. While just at 3422°C it starts melting. On paper it's only 16% but on practice it's pretty important. Although I don't know how the wiki handles this difference.

Do with that as you will

 

[StrymULTRA]

Man this Adam's heat stuff is so wanked anyways, why is the verse page even listing the 8-A+ version of the feat if the profile still uses the 7-C one huuuurgh

 

[ShionAH]

You can’t say that to Adam when we have Sonic characters with a hundred million celcius passive heat from a one off line of Robotnik

 

[Edutyn]

Voting for Adam

 

[Soul80]

I don't need to prove anything. N has Regeneration Negation, Adam resists it.

I guess you didn't read page though ? Those already was proved due the fact that N neg Regen layered on corrosion and nano technology, you didn't prove how sinners or angel Regen going to resist corrosion in the process and let's just add the same nano technology which should just continue eatiing him until his body will be completely destroyed

Additionally you still didn't explain WHY it would work on Adam and who's made of Light

So you choiced to ignore my respond I see ?

Like I said, you talking about that Adam holy light should broke laws of physics, while ignoring the fact that it's should limped to the same Adam physiology itself, he is a " pure" light if he still some sort of weight, so it's just some special light I guess (or you can elaborate in this moment)

You didn't elaborate how it's a going to even effect N nor should be it matter anyway, ignoring the fact that Adam still bound by the same laws and claiming that holy light being a light speed while ignoring a that Adam physiology should condradict it, ofc it should be mean that it will be just a some special light in case (with like actual mass and just pure light)

I don't think I need to explain why an extremely hot attack that far surpasses N's resistance would one shot him.

You should actually, that's your burden and @RealDuker98 asking you to prove your burden later on.

Not too bad. I don't know if it can help him dodge this though especially when he is not excepting such attack.

This is already condradication due the fact that he doing it when he needs it, he didn't use it against the same Alastor in their first fight and just begin with close distance combat, holy light was used only at end, Adam is itself egoistic and selfish so he should just understatement N as he did with other.

I don't know much about Murder Drones so I'll just not go too deep into skill stuff but N is only Average in intelligence?? Seems... weird?

You still can argue it due their adaptation (they're adaptive ai in intelligences aspects)

That is like one of the worst character assasination I have ever seen, did you forget what he did to Pentious?

Please, refuse my point and stop ignoring elephant in the room

Adam could also create a shockwave that also blinds the enemy, which should work on the drones? I believe?

No, they doesn't have actually eyes frist (it's just visor) , secondly is that N has enhand sense due his vision where he can detect presence around him

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He literally hit her at the end of the fight by the way. N knows V can regenerate from it, yet chooses not to.

But you forget he doesn't want to use the same acid because it's should kill her like normal worker drones or administrators , this is just basic knowledge of the character, he doesn't need to hurt his friends

Using it against a heart that is running isn't the same as using it in an active fight.

Yeah because eldritch J was too big to even try to get closer or use actually Acid against her because it will be pointless (at she has large size type 1 so we should clear why it wouldn't work anyway, Adam doesn't have large size so N will be fine to use it when he'll understand his statistic)

He's not throwing nanites? He was able at some point to literally cut her head. No reason he couldn't use his nanites.

Do you know what there actually difference with something what you actually can regenerate and with something which you can't, that's frist, the secondly, you need to understand that Cyn should just block him a way to use nanites with claws because she could understand it since she is the one who created their physiology.

If someone regenerated after his body was fully blown up, yes he can, as the nanites wouldn't eat his body for eternity.

Kinda ignoring example that it's a literally destroyed Nori body where never saw it again and N should just use it on his brain rather than other parts to slow his prepection down.

Which she didn't use when her head got cut off. Nice.

this one I already explained so.

Wow, I used a sword so I'm automatically good at using it!

You again ignoring other parts damn, ironically, yeah.
A character wouldn't able to use sword without actually skill nor knowledge about it, she used sword on 1vs 3 while still holding back + combinating her with her abilities already should be enough (this is also ignoring a further example where she was able to relative Uzi in skill)

That didn't stop him from actively dodging Alastor's attacks. In fact, he was only hit when Alastor surprise attacked him.

So you just proved that Adam can simple understatement his aponents , this should be just mean that N can use it against the same Adam to slow him down, in process annihilate him with acid.

The nanites ain't immortal.

Doesn't really means anything in that argument, tho we didn't have a prior argument about if they doesn't have some sort of immortality cuz they're still part of DDS physiology so I'll just leave this argument cuz this doesn't have any actual validity

That doesn't prove he starts by using his nanites?

It does ? He literally used tried to attack the same Nori and Uzi who was a nok worker drones, the same V probably used nanites against Yeva die the fact that she was a worker drone , you cannot ignore those examples and simple saying "no."

She didn't give him time to breathe, yet he was able to literally slice her head off.

That's quite annoying how you just stack at the same argument, I'll be honest, like really, move on already at least)

Uzi didn't have the solver just always active within her lol. She didn't even regenerate till he used his saliva.

Uzi always had solver, just active their abilities in a further episode, otherwise it wouldn't explain why she was able to regenerate her head after N acid.

 

[Soul80]

Guess I have to wait for now

 

[Soul80]

You changed your mind so we'll just listen to you rather than listen to the profile. Aight

I mean, you literally said that it didn't have a actually value, so I just specifically, give you actually argument on this

 

[ArrestedForRobbery]

following

 

[ArrestedForRobbery]

I think if we're taking both characters in-character then N would win

 

[Niko]

From what I've seen, Adam is stronger in terms of destructive capabilities like his holy light beams. However that becomes irrelevant when both N and him are faster than light. In a hand to hand combat, I believe N takes this in skill (showed in episode 7 when he fought possessed Uzi) and arsenals, and Adam takes this in strength. Adam only has his one changeable weapon and his hands to shoot beams, while N has two hands that change into multiple weapons, sharp bladed wings, and a nanite acid tail, they can regrow or re-attachable when lost. I do believe Adam will forget that N has a tail and N would end up stabbing him with his nanite acid tail. He has shown using his tail twice, episode 1 and 2.

 

[ShionAH]

However that becomes irrelevant when both N and him are faster than light.

Holy Light upscales from Adam’s speed. It isn’t Light speed. So no it isn’t “irrelevant”

Additionally Adam tanks that tail attack twice fold, both the corrosion and the regeneration negation are resisted.

 

[Starfall-Endowment]

Going with Dickmaster for now, btw does sum character going down and doing some shenanigans with a planet's core upscales his heat resistance temp?

 

[Soul80]

Going with Dickmaster for now, btw does sum character going down and doing some shenanigans with a planet's core upscales his heat resistance temp?

Prob

 

[Aksh_sky]

N should win since i belive his wincons are better.

 

[Qurbonboev]

Huh... if we can survive in rooms getting from 20 to 40°C, then why is casually surviving 3000 °C somehow means dying to 3500 °C? Do we die the second we get in a 50 °C room? We work on ratios here.

If we are working on ratios(idk if we do), we should use scale where temperature ratios do have physical meaning(Kelvin scale). 3500°C/3773K is around 15.3% hotter than 3000°C/3273C. What temperature is 15.3% hotter than room temperature (let's say 20°C/293K)? It's 293*1.153 = 337.5K, or 64.5°C

 

[Mythic381]

I mean, you literally said that it didn't have a actually value, so I just specifically, give you actually argument on this

You do realize I haven't been keeping up with most of the Hellaverse revisions right? It's only yesterday that I found out it's rated to upscale from Adam's speed.

 

[RealDuker98]

Additionally Adam tanks that tail attack twice fold, both the corrosion and the regeneration negation are resisted

Corrosion is resisted?

As for the heat thing, wouldn't it require N to be in Adam's holy light for a period of time?

Either way if we're going in-character match-up, Adam will underestimate N like he did Alastor and will likely go hand-to-hand rather than using holy light.

So I'll vote N fra

 

[Soul80]

You do realize I haven't been keeping up with most of the Hellaverse revisions right? It's only yesterday that I found out it's rated to upscale from Adam's speed.

I mean, same? So what's your point anyway

 

[Mythic381]

I mean, same? So what's your point anyway

My point is that we aren't going to listen to you "changing your mind" over what is written on his profile, as the calculation in question is just a lowball. Holy Light still upscales Adam's value.

 

[Soul80]

Additionally Adam tanks that tail attack twice fold, both the corrosion and the regeneration negation are resisted.

"Tanks" yeah let's forget that acid is a practically dura neg but whatever

 

[Soul80]

My point is that we aren't going to listen to you "changing your mind" over what is written on his profile, as the calculation in question is just a lowball. Holy Light still upscales Adam's value.

You're literally responded to my past comment before @ShionAH changed a reason so you can't blame me also

 

[Mythic381]

"Tanks" yeah let's forget that acid is a practically dura neg but whatever

How exactly? It's literally just a needle. The acid itself is just regeneration negation.

 

[Soul80]

How exactly? It's literally just a needle. The acid itself is just regeneration negation.

potentially ignoring conventional durability in the process.
Also it doesn't matter, like I already said that N can just target his head like he tried to use it against Uzi, it should blind or even slow his prepection

 

[Mythic381]

But you forget he doesn't want to use the same acid because it's should kill her like normal worker drones or administrators , this is just basic knowledge of the character, he doesn't need to hurt his friends

That doesn't make any sense? V is a disassembly drone, all disassembly drones have neutralizing saliva. She would literally regenerate from it.

Yeah because eldritch J was too big to even try to get closer or use actually Acid against her because it will be pointless (at she has large size type 1 so we should clear why it wouldn't work anyway, Adam doesn't have large size so N will be fine to use it when he'll understand his statistic)

How does her size relate to whether or not the acid would've worked on her? He could flown literally anywhere, hit her with his tail and flew away, but he didn't.

Do you know what there actually difference with something what you actually can regenerate and with something which you can't, that's frist, the secondly, you need to understand that Cyn should just block him a way to use nanites with claws because she could understand it since she is the one who created their physiology.

Your only counterargument to this is "Cyn should just block him in a way to use nanites with claws" Yet ignore that she was unable to block him slicing her head off.

Kinda ignoring example that it's a literally destroyed Nori body where never saw it again and N should just use it on his brain rather than other parts to slow his prepection down.

You're ignoring that she was also put of her misery by Khan. So not only was she being killed by the nanites, but the process was also sped up by Khan. This is also ignoring the fact that Nori doesn't even have resistance to regeneration negation.

You again ignoring other parts damn, ironically, yeah.
A character wouldn't able to use sword without actually skill nor knowledge about it, she used sword on 1vs 3 while still holding back + combinating her with her abilities already should be enough (this is also ignoring a further example where she was able to relative Uzi in skill)

She didn't even successfully hit anyone with the sword by the way. She just kept swinging it at Uzi, while teleporting, until she recklessly threw it at Uzi, which caused her to throw it. She absolutely didn't do anything meaningful with it to be considered good at using swords.

So you just proved that Adam can simple understatement his aponents , this should be just mean that N can use it against the same Adam to slow him down, in process annihilate him with acid.

Are you like purposefully ignoring what I write? He underestimated Alastor and was still only hit when he was surprise attacked. He literally dodged all of Alastor's other attacks.

Doesn't really means anything in that argument, tho we didn't have a prior argument about if they doesn't have some sort of immortality cuz they're still part of DDS physiology so I'll just leave this argument cuz this doesn't have any actual validity

It does mean that at some point they will stop. The guy is also made of light so I don't really understand how acid manipulation would realistically even work on him.

It does ? He literally used tried to attack the same Nori and Uzi who was a nok worker drones, the same V probably used nanites against Yeva die the fact that she was a worker drone , you cannot ignore those examples and simple saying "no."

Do you even know when he decided to use his nanites against Nori? We've quite literally only seen him use his nanites against helpless people who can't fight back against him. Uzi, Eldritch J's heart which was just running away and Nori which we don't know how their "fight" even went.

Uzi always had solver, just active their abilities in a further episode, otherwise it wouldn't explain why she was able to regenerate her head after N acid.

I specifically said she didn't have the Solver active at that time. N only hit her hand with his tail, why does her "head" matter?

potentially ignoring conventional durability in the process.
Also it doesn't matter, like I already said that N can just target it to his head like he tried to use it against Uzi, it should blind or even slow his prepection

If I threw acid at someone, it would obviously negate their durability. But there's a difference between throwing acid at someone or inserting a needle into them.

 

[Mythic381]

As for the heat thing, wouldn't it require N to be in Adam's holy light for a period of time?

Adam vaporized Pentious' blimp in a second.

Either way if we're going in-character match-up, Adam will underestimate N like he did Alastor and will likely go hand-to-hand rather than using holy light.

"If we're going in-character match-up" gee, almost like that's how it works in match-ups here, everyone is argued about what they do in character. He still wouldn't dodge his holy light.

 

[RealDuker98]

That doesn't make any sense? V is a disassembly drone, all disassembly drones have neutralizing saliva. She would literally regenerate from it.

Except that still would be extremely painful. Also if N accidently hits her in a place her she can't use her saliva.

How does her size relate to whether or not the acid would've worked on her? He could flown literally anywhere, hit her with his tail and flew away, but he didn't.

Because the acid would take time to actually be effective against a large foe. Also the fight ended in like 10 seconds + he had no time to utilize it or he would've been blown to shreds.

Your only counterargument to this is "Cyn should just block him in a way to use nanites with claws" Yet ignore that she was unable to block him slicing her head off.

Again they had like no time and had to even breathe let alone think about using his nanite tail. N used his blades as they were faster and more effective.

She didn't even successfully hit anyone with the sword by the way.

In her profile it says she skilled at using her sword

• Weapon Mastery (Cyn shows proficient use of a sword during her battle against Uzi, N, and V)

The guy is also made of light so I don't really understand how acid manipulation would realistically even work on him.

Sure but he also has skin, flesh and other parts.

He underestimated Alastor and was still only hit when he was surprise attacked.

No... A lot of the attacks came from in front of him

He literally dodged all of Alastor's other attacks.

He blocked like 2 attacks

I specifically said she didn't have the Solver active at that time. N only hit her hand with his tail, why does her "head" matter?

She did though... Given the fact that everytime she looks at a mirror it breaks and a solver symbol appears in her visor.

If I threw acid at someone, it would obviously negate their durability. But there's a difference between throwing acid at someone or inserting a needle into them.

I mean no??? If the needle is inserting acid into someone that will function practically the same.

Adam vaporized Pentious' blimp in a second.

Pulverisation is accepted

"If we're going in-character match-up" gee, almost like that's how it works in match-ups here, everyone is argued about what they do in character.

I was clarifying. Got a ******* problem with that?

He still wouldn't dodge his holy light.

My point was how Adam won't rely on his holy light... And you replied with "He still wouldn't dodge his holy light."

 

[Niko]

That doesn't make any sense? V is a disassembly drone, all disassembly drones have neutralizing saliva. She would literally regenerate from it.

N had a crush on V and didn't want to hurt her. Like he genuinely cares for her.

How does her size relate to whether or not the acid would've worked on her? He could flown literally anywhere, hit her with his tail and flew away, but he didn't.

His nanite acid tale storage is like the size of a heart or bigger, but the Eldritch Size is way bigger than he can generate.

Your only counterargument to this is "Cyn should just block him in a way to use nanites with claws" Yet ignore that she was unable to block him slicing her head off.

And? He did slice her head off, thought that would at least temporarily shut her down, but it didn't because Cyn is a G.

You're ignoring that she was also put of her misery by Khan. So not only was she being killed by the nanites, but the process was also sped up by Khan. This is also ignoring the fact that Nori doesn't even have resistance to regeneration negation.

Idk what you tryna prove.

Are you like purposefully ignoring what I write? He underestimated Alastor and was still only hit when he was surprise attacked. He literally dodged all of Alastor's other attacks.

Speed and skill difference, let's go back to speed equalized match.

It does mean that at some point they will stop. The guy is also made of light so I don't really understand how acid manipulation would realistically even work on him.

Liquid light

I specifically said she didn't have the Solver active at that time. N only hit her hand with his tail, why does her "head" matter?

He was aiming for the head.

If I threw acid at someone, it would obviously negate their durability. But there's a difference between throwing acid at someone or inserting a needle into them.

I think he was saying like "throw a punch" but it's acid

 

[Mythic381]

Except that still would be extremely painful. Also if N accidently hits her in a place her she can't use her saliva.

And knocking her out apparently isn't? He also regenerated Uzi, he, he could do the same for V.

Because the acid would take time to actually be effective against a large foe. Also the fight ended in like 10 seconds + he had no time to utilize it or he would've been blown to shreds.

It wouldn't if you attack a vital area. For the millionth time, he quite literally had time prior to doing it.

Again they had like no time and had to even breathe let alone think about using his nanite tail. N used his blades as they were faster and more effective.

It was only more effective to help Thad escape. The nanites would've been more helpful in the fight itself.

In her profile it says she skilled at using her sword

Do you know what Adam has on his profile?

• Martial Arts (Should be superior to Vaggie and Lute defeated, Alastor and stomped Charlie in battle)

Obviously Adam is as skilled at martial arts as Cyn is at sword mastery.

Sure but he also has skin, flesh and other parts.

By virtue of that ability, he would default get resistance to natural acids.

No... A lot of the attacks came from in front of him

That's not true? During the whole fight, Alastor only landed 2 hits: When he uppercutted him with a surprise shadow, and when he threw him away. So why does it matter that a lot of the attacks came in his view? He still didn't get hit from them.

He blocked like 2 attacks

Okay? What's that disproving?

She did though... Given the fact that everytime she looks at a mirror it breaks and a solver symbol appears in her visor.

It literally only started doing that since episode 2. And I know that because I watched the show you know.

I mean no??? If the needle is inserting acid into someone that will function practically the same.

That's if the needle itself even pierces through it successfully.

Pulverisation is accepted

Not true.

Holy Manipulation, Light Manipulation, Energy Projection, Magic and Heat Manipulation (Can conjure and utilize beams of Holy Light with either his Guitar-Axe or with his bare hands, Even a weaker attack from his Holy Light was able to completely vaporize Sir Pentious' Blimp)

I was clarifying. Got a ******* problem with that?

I do with practically how you were talking to me earlier.

My point was how Adam won't rely on his holy light... And you replied with "He still wouldn't dodge his holy light."

Because that's not how Adam fights. If he struggles to successfully land attacks against his opponent, or isn't doing much damage, He will use his holy light.

 

[Mythic381]

N had a crush on V and didn't want to hurt her. Like he genuinely cares for her.

Que N knocking out V.

His nanite acid tale storage is like the size of a heart or bigger, but the Eldritch Size is way bigger than he can generate.

He's not going to insert it into their whole body? Just a vital small area that would cause damage.

And? He did slice her head off, thought that would at least temporarily shut her down, but it didn't because Cyn is a G.

It didn't, I mean the whole fight is literally hitting her and her just instantly regenerating. The nanites arguably would've done better with their negation.

Idk what you tryna prove.

That Adam can regenerate from the acid/nanites.

Speed and skill difference, let's go back to speed equalized match.

Alastor is way more skilled than Adam with his abilities and attacks, yet Adam was dodging him. It's not like Alastor was slower in any way too.

Liquid light

By virtue of that ability, he would default get resistance to natural acids.

He was aiming for the head.

That's point I'm replying to is literally saying:

otherwise it wouldn't explain why she was able to regenerate her head after N acid.

This is literally just assuming she would've actually regenerated her head.

I think he was saying like "throw a punch" but it's acid

Okay? That's not really a better argument. Inserting a needle with acid isn't the same as throwing acid at someone.

 

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That doesn't make any sense? V is a disassembly drone, all disassembly drones have neutralizing saliva. She would literally regenerate from it.

Yeah, you trying to follow sense while forgetting N as character itself, that's not how it gonna work, he doesn't need nor a have a actually reason to use it against V and with the fact that he had crush on her and he didn't tried to fight against her much because she is still a close person to him (in the plot episode) , so doing allat for nothing and only trying to make it worse wouldn't make sense for a N as character (this is aslo make me wonder if you even watched the show cuz I actually have a questions like why did you tried to use argument why N didn't used acid against possessed Uzi even though he didn't tried to kill her much)

How does her size relate to whether or not the acid would've worked on her? He could flown literally anywhere, hit her with his tail and flew away, but he didn't.

This is already was demonstrated , N tried to use rockets it get failled, N tried to use chainsaw but it failed too and eldritch J still continue to grow other limbs, trying to inject acid into her when they had other limbs, were larger in size, and it was impossible to recognize where her real part was because J made several holograms in which one could get confused about what was real and what wasn't should be only one way from this situation is just using Uzi Ruilguin to atomized a J Eldritch form.

You're ignoring that she was also put of her misery by Khan. So not only was she being killed by the nanites, but the process was also sped up by Khan. This is also ignoring the fact that Nori doesn't even have resistance to regeneration negation.

Not really "killed" but her core was still there anyway, procces was stopped when her CPU/procces was immediately stopped working, then N core just left from the body without knowledge what she happened to her in lore. (but she is alive so) My point is that it's just should prove how much it should take a time for acid to destroy a worker drone body, Uzi was lucky one that N was here otherwise her body should be destroyed in procces

She didn't even successfully hit anyone with the sword by the way. She just kept swinging it at Uzi,

Her sword actually hit J , but whatever.
Is just Uzi that's skilled and can adapt to her skill , otherwise, it shouldn't elaborate a reason why she can keep up with all of them in 1vs3 and I still don't talk about that most of the time it's because Uzi saving their ahh or she fighting against Uzi, so I wouldn't say that it shouldn't downgrade her combat skill while keeping with three of them alone

while teleporting, until she recklessly threw it at Uzi, which caused her to throw it. She absolutely didn't do anything meaningful with it to be considered good at using swords.

You stuck at the same scene where she just showed projections of herself to confuse Uzi but She just predicted her next move otherwise she would get hit.

Are you like purposefully ignoring what I write? He underestimated Alastor and was still only hit when he was surprise attacked. He literally dodged all of Alastor's other attacks.

Getting forget that I said huh ? Yeah because he literally didn't try to lock in and keep shi talking, so that's why he catched by surprise attack, it should work with the same N, just continue fight until he'll adapt to his combat and just use nanites fews times in him

It does mean that at something point they will stop. The guy is also made of light so I don't really understand how acid manipulation would realistically even work on him.

I ironically enough, that's just ignoring my part where I already committed about this one, I do not think that he made of pure light but some special light which not related to normal light (kinda the same as holy light not being a actually light itself)

Do you even know when he decided to use his nanites against Nori? We've quite literally only seen him use his nanites against helpless people who can't fight back against him.

Huh, that's very bold of you to claim that Uzi is a "helpless" drone, while this helpless drone can stand up to a dissembly drone like J. And yes, there are literally statements where Nori recognized his face and Nori only confirmed it due to the statement "this thing killed your freaking mother." So most of the points indicate that he was the one using nanites on Nori.
And yeah, you forget one thing, but Cyn create a dissembly drones to hunt other solver host's, like V literally killed one of those hosts (Yeva) and acid should help to neutralize their regeneration
?

If I threw acid at someone, it would obviously negate their durability. But there's a difference between throwing acid at someone or inserting a needle into them.

It will be the same ? because it acts like a stinger, injecting an acid after targeting the object they're attacking