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Hello everyone, good afternoon. This thread will discuss the misunderstanding between Stories and Plot in the Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint Verse. I will also add a few points that were missed in the explanation of Status.
Before that, I want to emphasize that this thread was created by my friends, and I am only re-explaining it here. For the explanation, you can see it below:
With this, the thread is complete and ready to be evaluated. I would like to ask for your opinions on the thread I have presented here.
Agree:
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Before that, I want to emphasize that this thread was created by my friends, and I am only re-explaining it here. For the explanation, you can see it below:
Reality can be formed because of the existence of Stories/Fables. This is proven by the Star Stream, which is referred to as the World of Stories, because everything can exist through the presence of Stories. Stories also have various structures such as letters, words, sentences, and paragraph. These Stories are what shape a reality within the Star Stream.
Stories already existed even before the universe itself came into being. This is called The One, a state in which the universe of Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint had not yet been formed. Another term for The One is the First Stories.
As stated earlier, everything exists through Stories, including the existence of living beings. They can exist because of Stories that serve as the foundation for the formation of the soul. This is called Core Stories, also known as Thema. Thema becomes the fundamental component of a being’s soul and existence. The reason why Jonghyuk can be Jonghyuk and Sookyung can be Sookyung is because of this Thema.
The existence of constellations also depends on Stories. If their Stories are forgotten by the Star Stream, then their existence will disappear. That is why constellations always strive to spread their Stories, so that they become more widely known within the Star Stream and their existence becomes stronger.
Stories also serve as the main source of power, such as statistics, stigma, skill, and more. The levels of Stories are divided into several grades, which are referred to as Status.
Stories already existed even before the universe itself came into being. This is called The One, a state in which the universe of Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint had not yet been formed. Another term for The One is the First Stories.
As stated earlier, everything exists through Stories, including the existence of living beings. They can exist because of Stories that serve as the foundation for the formation of the soul. This is called Core Stories, also known as Thema. Thema becomes the fundamental component of a being’s soul and existence. The reason why Jonghyuk can be Jonghyuk and Sookyung can be Sookyung is because of this Thema.
The existence of constellations also depends on Stories. If their Stories are forgotten by the Star Stream, then their existence will disappear. That is why constellations always strive to spread their Stories, so that they become more widely known within the Star Stream and their existence becomes stronger.
Stories also serve as the main source of power, such as statistics, stigma, skill, and more. The levels of Stories are divided into several grades, which are referred to as Status.
The Final Wall is a boundary that separates the Worldline from the Oldest Dream. The Final Wall records everything from beginning to end; all things in the world, including The One, Stories, and Scenarios, are documented within it.
The contents of the Final Wall consist of Plot and Narrative Devices created by the Oldest Dream to contain its dreams. For the Oldest Dream, it is like reading a novel that contains various stories within it.
The Final Wall can also contain infinite stories. It has no end, stretches endlessly, and does not possess the concept of “breaking.”
The Final Wall also has five Fragments, known as the “Five Walls.” These five fragments determine the themes of the Star Stream’s worldview and serve as the key to accessing the archive of Stories within the Final Wall. The Fragments of the Final Wall are not bound by Status, as they function as the foundational themes of the Star Stream and are part of the Final Wall as a Narrative Device.
Below are the five Fragments of the Final Wall:
• Wall that divides Good and Evil (these are two Fragments, but they come as a pair) • Wall of Samsara • Wall of Communication • Wall that divides Reality and Fiction (Fourth Wall)
The contents of the Final Wall consist of Plot and Narrative Devices created by the Oldest Dream to contain its dreams. For the Oldest Dream, it is like reading a novel that contains various stories within it.
The Final Wall can also contain infinite stories. It has no end, stretches endlessly, and does not possess the concept of “breaking.”
The Final Wall also has five Fragments, known as the “Five Walls.” These five fragments determine the themes of the Star Stream’s worldview and serve as the key to accessing the archive of Stories within the Final Wall. The Fragments of the Final Wall are not bound by Status, as they function as the foundational themes of the Star Stream and are part of the Final Wall as a Narrative Device.
Below are the five Fragments of the Final Wall:
• Wall that divides Good and Evil (these are two Fragments, but they come as a pair) • Wall of Samsara • Wall of Communication • Wall that divides Reality and Fiction (Fourth Wall)
So, the conclusion is:
Plot Manipulation within Stories is excluded here, because Stories are merely a Fundamental Aspect that contain Information Manipulation Type 2 and Conceptual Manipulation Type 2.
Meanwhile, Plot Manipulation in Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint only exists within the Final Wall, as it has already been explained that the contents of the Final Wall are the Plot/Narrative Devices of the Oldest Dream.
The following characters scale to having Plot Manipulation abilities:
• Oldest Dream, as the one who created the Final Wall to contain its dreams.
• Dokkaebi King.
• Secretive Plotter & Outer God King (they can manipulate the Final Wall through brute force using their Stories, but this is limited).
• Han Sooyoung & Hakhyun (but only indirectly through Snowfield).
• All fragmented versions of Kim Dokja that are scattered across existence.
I think I can add a few more layers to the Status hierarchy:
• 3rd-Grade Demon / Demon Earl
This is a status that can only be possessed by Demon species. Demons with this status far surpass Viscount-grade and Baron-grade, which are generally on par with or above Top Incarnation level.
• 2nd-Grade Demon / Demon Marquis
Starting from Demon Earl, the difference in status between Demon Duke, Marquis, and Earl becomes extremely vast.
• 1st-Grade Demon / Demon Duke
Demons who have far surpassed Demon Marquis, and whose existence in the Demon Realm is only below the Demon King.
• Outer God Vice-King
Entities ranked among the Outer Gods, positioned just below the Outer God Kings.
• Oldest Dream
An Absolute Being that has transcend everything, including the Final Wall.
• 3rd-Grade Demon / Demon Earl
This is a status that can only be possessed by Demon species. Demons with this status far surpass Viscount-grade and Baron-grade, which are generally on par with or above Top Incarnation level.
• 2nd-Grade Demon / Demon Marquis
Starting from Demon Earl, the difference in status between Demon Duke, Marquis, and Earl becomes extremely vast.
• 1st-Grade Demon / Demon Duke
Demons who have far surpassed Demon Marquis, and whose existence in the Demon Realm is only below the Demon King.
• Outer God Vice-King
Entities ranked among the Outer Gods, positioned just below the Outer God Kings.
• Oldest Dream
An Absolute Being that has transcend everything, including the Final Wall.
With the addition of these statuses, the hierarchy would be as follows:
Layer 0 – Incarnations (Main Scenarios 1–8)
Layer 1 – Incarnations (Post Main Scenario 9)
Layer 2 – Top-Tier Incarnations
Layer 3 – Demon Earl
Layer 4 – Demon Marquis
Layer 5 – Demon Duke
Layer 6 – Disaster
Layer 7 – Original 73rd Demon King
Layer 8 – Low-Grade Dokkaebis
Layer 9 – Kim Dokja (Nameless Constellation)
Layer 10 – Stage 1–2 Transcendents
Layer 11 – Historical-Grade Constellations
Layer 12 – Cheok Jungyeong (Strongest Historical-Grade)
Layer 13 – Intermediate Dokkaebis
Layer 14 – Stage 3–4 Transcendents
Layer 15 – Narrative-Grade Constellations
Layer 16 – Indescribable Distance (Clone)
Layer 17 – Great Old Ones (Outer Gods)
Layer 18 – Myth-Grade Constellations
Layer 19 – Nameless Mist / Apocalypse Dragon
Layer 20 – Outer God Vice-King
Layer 21 – Outer God Kings
Layer 22 – Dokkaebi King & Wenny King
Layer 23 – Final Wall
Layer 24 – Oldest Dream
With this, the thread is complete and ready to be evaluated. I would like to ask for your opinions on the thread I have presented here.
Agree:
Disagree: