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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

The only agenda I see is trying to give Demon Charlie (No rage amp) Adam downscaling when he called her attempts cute and, after feeling pain from her trient, blitzes and one punches her with being clear as day that he was toying with her and the rest of the cast and only getting very very annoyed with Alastor but nothing more
How kind of Adam to hold back his 5-B AP to 9-A levels and let Charlie stab him
That's not a blitz. If I punch someone and they fail to block, that doesn't mean I'm a blitz tier above them, especially since that same person successfully stabbed me while I was looking straight at them. It does mean I have faster reflexes but that's less a matter of raw speed and moreso superior skill.

I'm obviously not saying that Adam was 100% serious during that fight, he did call it cute, but he definitely took the fight more seriously after realizing that Charlie can hurt him and the fact that Charlie was mostly fine after taking a backhand and a punch to the face shows that she's not millions of times weaker. Especially since the moment Adam got his hand on her, he very quickly expressed his intent to kill her right then and there.
 
How kind of Adam to hold back his 5-B AP to 9-A levels and let Charlie stab him
You miss understand. He definitely Tier 5 when he got stabbed, when he was slapping around charlie and caused her to bleed from the head from a back hand, yeah he's not tier 5.
also, we see him outspeed her twice and we see in the second exchange that she tried to block was too slow so he's definately faster and we see what he did to someone on a higher tier
 

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You miss understand. He definitely Tier 5 when he got stabbed, when he was slapping around charlie and caused her to bleed from the head from a back hand, yeah he's not tier 5.
I personally disagree. I don't really see why he'd make himself millions of times weaker even after getting stabbed in the shoulder and knowing he could die, but whatever, I don't really care enough to continue going back and forth. It just seems like we have different standards for downscaling.
also, we see him outspeed her twice and we see in the second exchange that she tried to block was too slow so he's definately faster and we see what he did to someone on a higher tier
The first one was explicitly a surprise attack, but I can concede to him being faster, just not a blitz tier above, otherwise he'd never have gotten hit in the first place.

Imo the only blitzes in the Hellaverse are Alastor and Vox's pseudo-teleportations.
 
Should have been Baxter, aka Mr. I conveniently became a hacker only because it's needed for the plot, instead of Al
 
Yeah im pretty confident that Sukuna would win regardless of any classic Death Battle weirdness but it
still would've been cool as shit.
You never know how they'd scale the MoL feat, but yeah it would have been dope
Though a DB cast doesn't guarantee an episode or that exact opponent.
Plus Sukuna probably has better options
 
Something I just noticed:
Looking at the MoL calculation,
1. No matter how many times I put it into Relativistic Ke calculators, I get 7.293e+33, no 7.269e+33 like the calc says
2. the final image from the frame count and the image used for pixel scaling are different. The difference is only one frame, but the distance traveled by the clouds and the shockwave are different between the two images.
If I'm correct, that breaks the speed of the KE to 159578380.96 m/s (0.53 c) and the AP to 5.790e+33 (1.38 Yottatons)​
 
Something I just noticed:
Looking at the MoL calculation,
1. No matter how many times I put it into Relativistic Ke calculators, I get 7.293e+33, no 7.269e+33 like the calc says
2. the final image from the frame count and the image used for pixel scaling are different. The difference is only one frame, but the distance traveled by the clouds and the shockwave are different between the two images.
If I'm correct, that breaks the speed of the KE to 159578380.96 m/s (0.53 c) and the AP to 5.790e+33 (1.38 Yottatons)​
Behold! The dreaded Lucifer downgrade!
 
You miss understand. He definitely Tier 5 when he got stabbed, when he was slapping around charlie and caused her to bleed from the head from a back hand, yeah he's not tier 5.
That literally does not make any sense however way you try to put it.
also, we see him outspeed her twice
The first time is outright not "outspeeding her" She was flying to Vaggie, Adam intercepted her and talked for a second with Charlie not attempting to do absolutely anything, as she didn't focus on him.

The second one is literally just Adam successfully landing a punch against someone who doesn't know what to properly do in a fight.

To be fair, Adam talking while staring at Charlie obviously made him millions of times slower when he was apparently "blitzed him." So him being able to weaken himself makes sesne.
 
Something I just noticed:
Looking at the MoL calculation,
1. No matter how many times I put it into Relativistic Ke calculators, I get 7.293e+33, no 7.269e+33 like the calc says
2. the final image from the frame count and the image used for pixel scaling are different. The difference is only one frame, but the distance traveled by the clouds and the shockwave are different between the two images.
If I'm correct, that breaks the speed of the KE to 159578380.96 m/s (0.53 c) and the AP to 5.790e+33 (1.38 Yottatons)​
Regarding the calculator, I think it's your mistake, since I've already tried recalculating those effects several times, and they all gave higher values than that, and this has already been thoroughly reviewed. As for the other errors, this calculation has a lot of strange things in it. If someone, instead of trying to discard the effect completely, only considers the tremor caused until a better calculation of the dispersions exists, I would agree.

But no, all the discussions only seek to completely dismiss the feats of the dispersals.
 
for the ending

Adam comes back, kills Lucifer, beats Alastor again, kills Charlie, enslaves Vaggie as a soldier, kills the rest of the cast and takes over Hell
 
to much repetition
Still a type. Argument invalidated.
A royal who still treats others like garbage.
That's why she's a royal
Charlie isn't, Lucifer isn't, Vaggie isn't, Stolas isn't (yes he isn't).
Charlie is too stupid to be one
Lucifer is too stupid to be one
Vaggie is.
Stolas is a lot worse than an asshole
Sonic is at BEST, in his earlier 20s.
That's not a child though? He's a manchild
She yells to much
You yell too much
I.M.P doesn't kill hellborn, or royalty.
They can theoretically kill Earth royalty.
Al has nothing to do with this conversation.
And Sonic apparently did?
No, Stolas isn't.
...? Stolas is literally a dogshit dad outside of this joke stuff
 
Stolas was a good father, but he let his lust get the better of him than his family. The Asmodeus episode also showed this, literally stating that he abandoned his daughter because of lust.

But I doubt this will be a point of contention or that it will really be discussed in the series.
 
Stolas was a good father, but he let his lust get the better of him than his family. The Asmodeus episode also showed this, literally stating that he abandoned his daughter because of lust.

But I doubt this will be a point of contention or that it will really be discussed in the series.
It was talked about, it's literally the entire reason Octavia disowned him, she straight up calls him out for abandoning her for Blitzø
 

DOOMSLAYER VS JIN WOO (AURA BATTLE)
Look the part about this that is related to Hellaverse
 
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