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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

Without relativistic KE? Sure. I do think it can be higher considering Heaven is larger than Earth. This depends on whether we assume which of the realms is earth-sized.
I'm pretty sure we're currently assuming Heaven to be Earth-sized
 
I mean, why not Hell? Both would encompass more creatures than Earth and the dead. It would make more sense for Hell to be Earth-sized and Heaven to be larger.
The Heaven is bigger thing comes from Charlie's voice actor so dunno how reliable it is Especially when Heaven seems to be under the Pentagram in the sky
 
Typo. Argument invalid.
She's a royal. Argument invalid.
Everyone is an asshole here. Argument refuted.
-Womanchild
Sonic is a manchild. Argument wrong.
-CHILLONA
What?
-Murderer (not a amasing crime to be honest)
Welcome to "Immediate Murder Professionals." Argument discombobulated.
-hypocrite
So is Alastor. Argument in-valid
-neglectful parent
All owls are. Argument fails to satisfy the condition of logical necessity
 
It logically makes sense narratively. Redemption would be pointless if not.
Hearsay told me that apparently Viz is going to tackle something along those lines with Heaven's population in the future, so I dunno
Hell isn't even a planet to begin with, and at least with its layers, seems to run on non-euclidean geometry too.
 
Typo. Argument invalid.
to much repetition
She's a royal. Argument invalid.
A royal who still treats others like garbage.
Everyone is an asshole here. Argument refuted.
Charlie isn't, Lucifer isn't, Vaggie isn't, Stolas isn't (yes he isn't).
Sonic is a manchild. Argument wrong.
Sonic is at BEST, in his earlier 20s.
She yells to much
Welcome to "Immediate Murder Professionals." Argument discombobulated.
I.M.P doesn't kill hellborn, or royalty.
So is Alastor. Argument in-valid
Al has nothing to do with this conversation.
All owls are. Argument fails to satisfy the condition of logical necessity
No, Stolas isn't.
 
Womanchild
Counter-argument
Seductive-Stella-with-phone-signed-print.webp
 
Okay so after rewatching the MoL feat, I'm now convinced that the Gates of Heaven are located on one of the rings, they were hit straight on, and this shot matches really well with that angle:
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To be fair, HB is the one more focused about other rings. Though it would make sense for the Morningstars as there's no reason they can't travel between rings.
I was moreso thinking about the creation of Hell and all that but you're right
 
Watching Lucifer possibly lose his own planetary feat is like watching murder drones go down to unknown and small building level all over again, however I hope that like that verse it gets fixed too, because it's literally something that can only really scale to him and amped Charlie, and the FTL thing is pretty ok for anyone equal to or above FP Alastor (except that bird beak peck)
 
Watching Lucifer possibly lose his own planetary feat is like watching murder drones go down to unknown and small building level all over again, however I hope that like that verse it gets fixed too, because it's literally something that can only really scale to him and amped Charlie, and the FTL thing is pretty ok for anyone equal to or above FP Alastor (except that bird beak peck)
Dw at worst Lucifer (and Adam) will go down to small country level
 
We've been over this, Al can downscale Adam, and it would make so much more sense if he only scales to his own small town feat, also angy Charlie, you forgot her
Al currently doesn't downscale Adam, but you're right that I forgot about Rage Charlie (though I believe she should downscale Adam in her normal Demon Form, cause she took several blows from him, even after he got stabbed and took the fight a bit more seriously, though he's still stronger ofc)
 
At this point i don't even know where the scaling of this Verse is going.
But lets see if i got this right.

Anonymous-Learner is preparing a CRT involving 3 newly accepted feats that will get Lower-Middle Tier characters up to Building-Large Building.
I also believe he said something about a Downgrade for speed but don't remember much else.

And just now someone is trying to nuke Planetary for Adam(In which i wouldn't be too against) and LUCIFER, The guy who actually preformed the feat, And
honestly that's nonsense but atleast from what I've seen the lowest he could end up is Small Country which is too low to me but still passable i guess.

Ok did i miss anything or is this actually all the major news for Hellaverse Scaling right now?
 
Al currently doesn't downscale Adam, but you're right that I forgot about Rage Charlie (though I believe she should downscale Adam in her normal Demon Form, cause she took several blows from him, even after he got stabbed and took the fight a bit more seriously, though he's still stronger ofc)
Niffty full tanked a HL beam, we gonna make her downscale Adam?
 
At this point i don't even know where the scaling of this Verse is going.
But lets see if i got this right.

Anonymous-Learner is preparing a CRT involving 3 newly accepted feats that will get Lower-Middle Tier characters up to Building-Large Building.
I also believe he said something about a Downgrade for speed but don't remember much else.

And just now someone is trying to nuke Planetary for Adam(In which i wouldn't be too against) and LUCIFER, The guy who actually preformed the feat, And
honestly that's nonsense but atleast from what I've seen the lowest he could end up is Small Country which is too low to me but still passable i guess.

Ok did i miss anything or is this actually all the major news for Hellaverse Scaling right now?
nah, you got it.
 
Niffty full tanked a HL beam, we gonna make her downscale Adam?
We don't know if she got hit straight on or if she mostly tanked the shockwave but I'm leaning towards the latter considering the beam hit right in front of Vaggie and Charlie and she was nowhere in sight, so she probably was a bit further away
 
Pure agenda driven comment I am crine
The only agenda I see is trying to give Demon Charlie (No rage amp) Adam downscaling when he called her attempts cute and, after feeling pain from her trient, blitzes and one punches her with being clear as day that he was toying with her and the rest of the cast and only getting very very annoyed with Alastor but nothing more
 
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