How emanators fooled the internet (hsr emanator downgrade) (mods needed)

[Mbpoops]

In that case, you should find it and add the scan to prevent further confusion.

Yea ill just have to find it gimme a bit

Also for the case of Sunday, why are we using the Scepter calc for him? The scepter calc involves subatomization of a the asdana galaxy, as oppose to Sunday simply just manipulating it. Those are two different kind of feats. It would be much better to use GBE for the Sunday, in which case it would be on the higher end of 3-C to maybe baseline 3-B.

I thought i had sunday at baseline 3-B (its probably just statistics) i can update it to that then

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Wait can I ask the exact reason why SoE is Low 1-C…

No clue, probably because Divine Keys are made of Herrscher Cores which is connected to the CoF which is the Imaginary Singularity (0 Dimensions, origin of all dimensions, weird stuff)

 

[Mbpoops]

Yea ill just have to find it gimme a bit

So this is the proof i was given… take it as you will

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Do you have a scan relating to the Ravagers all being relative to each other? I can buy Zephyro upscaling from this with him being the strongest and all that, but the other require more evidence.

 

[Mbpoops]

No clue, probably because Divine Keys are made of Herrscher Cores which is connected to the CoF which is the Imaginary Singularity (0 Dimensions, origin of all dimensions, weird stuff)

Its just singularity rebuild from alien space zeroth wouldnt scale to this

 

[Mbpoops]

I guess phainon genuienly is the only low 1-C character excluding singlarity rebuild and aeons notice how its kevin’s expy

 

[SuperNova55555]

No clue, probably because Divine Keys are made of Herrscher Cores which is connected to the CoF which is the Imaginary Singularity (0 Dimensions, origin of all dimensions, weird stuff)

Ye but this isn’t Low 1-C unless they can utilize the power of the Cocoon in it’s entirety

 

[Mbpoops]

Ye but this isn’t Low 1-C unless they can utilize the power of the Cocoon in it’s entirety

Only singularity rebuild can since it reverts dimensions back to their point of origin which is the CoF zeroth can get nuked

 

[SuperNova55555]

Only singularity rebuild can since it reverts dimensions back to their point of origin which is the CoF zeroth can get nuked

That’s sounds like hax icl

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

So this is the proof i was given… take it as you will

I’m ngl this feels a bit flimsy

 

[Mbpoops]

That’s sounds like hax icl

Then just give it range with layered dimension manip or smthn lol

 

[Mbpoops]

Actually n

Then just give it range with layered dimension manip or smthn lol

actually is just like extreme gravity manip welt like verbatim states this

 

[SuperNova55555]

Then just give it range with layered dimension manip or smthn lol

As I said, it’s literally higher-dimensional hax as I said.

Actually n

actually is just like extreme gravity manip welt like verbatim states this

Yeaa?? That’s why I’m so confused on why it’d be L1C. It’s js hax, or at best abuses the Cocoon itself which wouldn’t be scalable to SoE intrinsically anyways

 

[Mbpoops]

As I said, it’s literally higher-dimensional hax as I said.


Yeaa?? That’s why I’m so confused on why it’d be L1C. It’s js hax, or at best abuses the Cocoon itself which wouldn’t be scalable to SoE intrinsically anyways

Unless someone has a better argument im fine with this since SRB kinda messes up scaling when you get to HoStars and UES thought it should keep range imo

 

[SuperNova55555]

Imo nobody below Irontomb at Self-Coronation, Cyrene using the universe’s memories and Khaslana at max power should get Low 1-C if I’m being completely honest

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Only singularity rebuild can since it reverts dimensions back to their point of origin which is the CoF zeroth can get nuked

just argue he destroyed alien space which is actual higher D realm, so the only thing you get is low 2-C AP only and low 1-C range

 

[Mbpoops]

Imo nobody below Irontomb at Self-Coronation, Cyrene using the universe’s memories and Khaslana at max power should get Low 1-C if I’m being completely honest

The only reason they are low 1-C is cus firenon

 

[SuperNova55555]

just argue he destroyed alien space which is actual higher D realm, so the only thing you get is low 2-C AP only and low 1-C range

Is it confirmed it destroyed the entirety of Alien Space? Also, iirc that’s a space created by the Aline Key, ye? Do we have confirmation it extends the entirety of the higher dimension (i.e it is infinite)?

 

[Mbpoops]

just argue he destroyed alien space which is actual higher D realm, so the only thing you get is low 2-C AP only and low 1-C range

Having R>F over the universe so low 1-C alien space is fine imo SRB destroying it and what not welt did ascend to alien space

 

[SuperNova55555]

The only reason they are low 1-C is cus firenon

No each of them separately have a Low 1-C feat lol.

But all of them going down to Low 2-C along with Aeons in my next thread

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Unless someone has a better argument im fine with this since SRB kinda messes up scaling when you get to HoStars and UES thought it should keep range imo

Zephyro antifeat no way???

 

[Mbpoops]

No each of them separately have a Low 1-C feat lol.

But all of them going down to Low 2-C along with Aeons in my next thread

Ur thread isnt seeing the light of day till weaverMs thread

 

[SuperNova55555]

Having R>F over the universe so low 1-C alien space is fine imo SRB destroying it and what not welt did ascend to alien space

The higher dimension qualifying is fine but I’m asking is it confirmed that Alien Space is itself the higher dimension or is it infinite by itself? Since creating a higher-dimensional pocket dimension isn’t intrinsically infinite (i.e Low 1-C) just like how creating a normal pocket dimension isn’t infinite (i.e Low 2-C) inherently either

 

[Mbpoops]

How many layers of gravity manip would be needed to destroy higher dimensions

 

[SuperNova55555]

How many layers of gravity manip would be needed to destroy higher dimensions

Just good potency. Gravity already extends to higher dimensions intrinsically

 

[Mbpoops]

The higher dimension qualifying is fine but I’m asking is it confirmed that Alien Space is itself the higher dimension or is it infinite by itself? Since creating a higher-dimensional pocket dimension isn’t intrinsically infinite (i.e Low 1-C) just like how creating a normal pocket dimension isn’t infinite (i.e Low 2-C) inherently either

Tbh its never confirmed manga takes too long to load on mobile so i cant check but its just that its higher with R>F never size confirmed tho

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Is it confirmed it destroyed the entirety of Alien Space?

Yes after he destroyed ryusuke the space was destroyed and the key completely broke

Also, iirc that’s a space created by the Aline Key, ye? Do we have confirmation it extends the entirety of the higher dimension (i.e it is infinite)?

I dont have that confirmation, the entire scaling was accepted based on the fact ryusukes higher dimensional existence had significant difference compared lower ones like welt and was thus accepted as low 2-C at first.

 

[Mbpoops]

Im fine with “low 2-C possibly far high” for srb aswell

 

[SuperNova55555]

Tbh its never confirmed manga takes too long to load on mobile so i cant check but its just that its higher with R>F never size confirmed tho

I dont have that confirmation, the entire scaling was accepted based on the fact ryusukes higher dimensional existence had significant difference compared lower ones like welt and was thus accepted as low 2-C at first.

Yea but that’s the property of the dimension itself, not specifically of Alien Space.

And Low 1-C (or Low 2-C) requires you to destroy an infinite higher-dimensional object. So unless Alien Space is confirmed to be infinite then I don’t think it works. Unless there’s proof that it is the dimension itself but that doesn’t seem to be the case since Alien Space is pocket dimension created by the Key

 

[Mbpoops]

Btw i just wanna say if we nuke alien space here we need to change all the statements of destroying the universe from low 1-C to 2-A since the only reason the universe is accepted as low 1-C is from alien space (idk how tf this got accepted)

 

[SuperNova55555]

Btw i just wanna say if we nuke alien space here we need to change all the statements of destroying the universe from low 1-C to 2-A since the only reason the universe is accepted as low 1-C is from alien space (idk how tf this got accepted)

No. The existence of the infinite dimension itself is fine. But Alien Space itself isn’t the entire dimension.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Yea but that’s the property of the dimension itself, not specifically of Alien Space.

And Low 1-C (or Low 2-C) requires you to destroy an infinite higher-dimensional object. So unless Alien Space is confirmed to be infinite then I don’t think it works. Unless there’s proof that it is the dimension itself but that doesn’t seem to be the case since Alien Space is pocket dimension created by the Key

Ryusuke IS merged with the dimension itself, including entire alien space

 

[Mbpoops]

No. The existence of the infinite dimension itself is fine. But Alien Space itself isn’t the entire dimension.

I was just saying that (at least from what i was told) the R>F wasnt applied to just the soq but also real space.. so that would have to get removed because currently destroying the universe = low 1-C

 

[SuperNova55555]

Ryusuke IS merged with the dimension itself, including entire alien space

It specifies that only the pocket dimension created by the Alien Key (what Welt sees and wtvr) forms a single entity at a higher dimension, not the entire higher dimension itself.

I was just saying that (at least from what i was told) the R>F wasnt applied to just the soq but also real space.. so that would have to get removed because currently destroying the universe = low 1-C

Duuuh. Did you now js get it? This is one of the main reasons I’m downgrading Aeons. Real Space is explicitly 4D

 

[Mbpoops]

It specifies that only the pocket dimension created by the Alien Key (what Welt sees and wtvr) forms a single entity at a higher dimension, not the entire higher dimension itself.

It is the higher dimension itself later in the manga when welt sees the higher dimension its still apart of alien space it was the world that ryusuke was making to ascend humanity with

Duuuh. Did you now js get it? This is one of the main reasons I’m downgrading Aeons. Real Space is explicitly 4D

This shouldve been how it was..

 

[SuperNova55555]

It is the higher dimension itself later in the manga when welt sees the higher dimension its still apart of alien space it was the world that ryusuke was making to ascend humanity with

Elaborate this point

 

[Mbpoops]

Elaborate this point

If the manga loads…

 

[PedjaTarzan]

If the manga loads…

you mean this scans right?

 

[Mbpoops]

you mean this scans right?

Yes

 

[SuperNova55555]

Yes

Ok so what does that prove