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Comprehensive Review of the Instant Death

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Didn't really wanna interfere but I am just gonna point something out. Isn't Yogiri like a logic/law of the Ultimate Ensemble also isn't the guy like everywhere and has existed since the beginning of time ? If so I feel like this entire thing is kinda circular.
If Yogiri exists across all of space & time then it's quite natural for the "eyes" to be countless or Infinite however I fail to see how contextually Yogiri's True form being Infinite in scope/range has any correlation with the size of the Abyss since the countless eye statement with respect to the Abyss is talking about how the entire space of the Abyss is filled with eyes.
Abyss -> Undefined scope
Yogiri's TF eyes -> Countless that filled up the Abyss
Yogiri's eyes -> Is everywhere
Is the justification attempting to argue the significance of a space by arguing that because an abstract being that has existed since the beginning of time is there that means that space scales to the full extent of his range ?
Like his eyes in that scene scale to the space of the Abyss not the other way around....
 
Ehh so for the countless D it dosnt mean infinite dimensions. Take a look at última Godzilla, he has Countless D as hax, but dosnt mean it’s H1B, both context here just refer to the fact there are too many dimensions, that’s all
 
Actually, after reading through the scans carefully, I think an Abyss being Universal size should be fine. Although the text states he can only appear where the two dimensions intersect, it seems these intersection points are continous and exist across the entire Celestial Foundation since he can travel freely between the dimensions and can go almost anywhere, it suggests that while these two planes exist parallel to each other (since it is accessible from nearly everywhere), the free movement is only possible through certain points (intersection points), which, even if are continous and exist almost everywhere, aren't present exactly at all places. They likely intersect at enough points to make free movement feasible from nearly any location but not that they intersect at every point. Something like this img:
 
And do you have the proof that everyone agreed to 8D...?
Cause from what I'm Seeing no one agreed to 8D.
Can you quote one stuff massage where stuff explicitly accepted 7D and 8D ?
Where in this thread was 7-8D accepted? Do you have proof that that was the accepted premise? Proof for these statements??

So proof? Name the people and quote their statements. L1C is 5D no one disagreed with that. 7-8D is whats being disagreed with. So who are these employees that disagree with L1C? I'm not being rude, I'm being blunt. Cause it's quite annoying when you accuse someone and treat them like sh##
And disingenuous tones is enough to make some not want to participate in the conversation any longer.
So i was going over this thread yesterday. And i just realized, Azerty was asked which staff agreed to 7D or 8D 3 times (or more idk), and every single time it was ignored, instead of actually quoting where the staff agreed. I know this is in the final part where the staff basically all agreed with Cipher's summary/conclusion, and are discussing final points, but just wanted to put this out.

But anyways, I hope this CRT can be closed soon. This was dragged on for too many pages for no specific reason, and I believe even the staff wants to reach a conclusion soon, instead of going back and forth for another 10 pages. I think we can all agree with Cipher's and Reiner's conclusions mentioned so far, if anyone has objections please just mention them now 🙏
 
Actually, after reading through the scans carefully, I think an Abyss being Universal size should be fine. Although the text states he can only appear where the two dimensions intersect, it seems these intersection points are continous and exist across the entire Celestial Foundation since he can travel freely between the dimensions and can go almost anywhere, it suggests that while these two planes exist parallel to each other (since it is accessible from nearly everywhere), the free movement is only possible through certain points (intersection points), which, even if are continous and exist almost everywhere, aren't present exactly at all places. They likely intersect at enough points to make free movement feasible from nearly any location but not that they intersect at every point. Something like this img:
I finally agree with you; of course, this makes sense.
@Oblivion_Of_The_Endless
 
So i was going over this thread yesterday. And i just realized, Azerty was asked which staff agreed to 7D or 8D 3 times (or more idk), and every single time it was ignored, instead of actually quoting where the staff agreed. I know this is in the final part where the staff basically all agreed with Cipher's summary/conclusion, and are discussing final points, but just wanted to put this out.

But anyways, I hope this CRT can be closed soon. This was dragged on for too many pages for no specific reason, and I believe even the staff wants to reach a conclusion soon, instead of going back and forth for another 10 pages. I think we can all agree with Cipher's and Reiner's conclusions mentioned so far, if anyone has objections please just mention them now 🙏
"The question is very simple. After agreeing to the Abyss, Low 1C, the Sea will become 1C, the higher universes 7D, and the Final Set 8D, because the Final Set also contains worlds that go beyond everything we know—so much so that all the gods cannot perceive them and are not even aware of their existence due to how far these worlds transcend everything. However, the Absolute God, who is the greatest and most powerful of the gods, stated that just because we cannot perceive these universes does not mean they do not exist. Therefore, the Final Set will be 8D.
All I did was add one level after agreeing to the Abyss."
 
"The question is very simple. After agreeing to the Abyss, Low 1C, the Sea will become 1C, the higher universes 7D, and the Final Set 8D, because the Final Set also contains worlds that go beyond everything we know—so much so that all the gods cannot perceive them and are not even aware of their existence due to how far these worlds transcend everything. However, the Absolute God, who is the greatest and most powerful of the gods, stated that just because we cannot perceive these universes does not mean they do not exist. Therefore, the Final Set will be 8D.
All I did was add one level after agreeing to the Abyss."
The question is very simple, and 3 different people typed it in 3 different ways. So I'll also type it here
Which staff member accepted 7D or 8D?
Well no point in asking since none of them accepted.
Well since Azerty also agreed with reiner, can the thread starter or a staff member or anyone just type a summary or conclusion of the thread, which the staff accepted. We can finally conclude and close this thread today.
 
Actually, after reading through the scans carefully, I think an Abyss being Universal size should be fine. Although the text states he can only appear where the two dimensions intersect, it seems these intersection points are continous and exist across the entire Celestial Foundation since he can travel freely between the dimensions and can go almost anywhere, it suggests that while these two planes exist parallel to each other (since it is accessible from nearly everywhere), the free movement is only possible through certain points (intersection points), which, even if are continous and exist almost everywhere, aren't present exactly at all places. They likely intersect at enough points to make free movement feasible from nearly any location but not that they intersect at every point. Something like this img:
In addition to this, being referred to as 'alternate' or 'parallel' realities is generally considered a strong indication that they are complete universes, provided the context supports it per our standards. And since the term 'dimensions' is being used here to refer to either a dimensional axis otherwise universe itself, I believe this can be used as further supporting evidence for a Universal size. The standard i am referring to:
  • Being labeled as "Entire Alternate Realities" generally indicates them being called universes, but the context and semantics should preferably be specified.
 
It should be technically, since Qaw said if Abyss will be proven as significant it would bump 1D.

However I prefer wait UMR to agree or disagree with Reiner view there
As far as I remember, he said the (somewhat) opposite: the main thing giving The Sea its rating is the dimensionality of the Abyss and not its size
 
As far as I remember, he said the (somewhat) opposite: the main thing giving The Sea its rating is the dimensionality of the Abyss and not its size
The Sea would not be 1D higher unless it subsumed the Abyss spatio-temporally. I don't see that here. It's just the 2-C version of Low 1-C.
 
The Sea would not be 1D higher unless it subsumed the Abyss spatio-temporally. I don't see that here. It's just the 2-C version of Low 1-C.
Yes, the sea as well. The sea has a temporal dimension, and it can contain countless celestial foundations. Each celestial foundation is classified from 2B to 2A, and there are infinitely many of them. There is also a hierarchical structure within the sea. Additionally, there is a five-dimensional abyss, and others like it. There are also other five-dimensional structures similar to the abyss within the sea. All of this exists within the infinite sea, and the sea also possesses a temporal dimension. I have clarified the matter here.
 
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