How emanators fooled the internet (hsr emanator downgrade) (mods needed)

[Mbpoops]

1. For starters, how does that affect anything? Secondly, in your own scan it says that emanators are crafted by aeons. Thirdly, even in some loading screen tips it says that emanators have their powers directly granted by aeons.

Because the op is also getting rid of aeons drawing directly from their aeons? Not to mention you brought up IT drawing directly from nous and nanook which is impossible because they dont draw from aeons directly

2. she was assimilated but that means she destroyed his head to replace it with herself.

So she died? Thanks

Idk who that is. Focus on the arguments please.

Sureeeeeee sure

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

I specified her "physical AP" though. As in, her physical stats. Not her equipment

Correlation? Physical attacks are SS and AP. Non-physical attacks can still be AP but not SS.

Because the op is also getting rid of aeons drawing directly from their aeons? Not to mention you brought up IT drawing directly from nous and nanook which is impossible because they dont draw from aeons directly

Well that part is also inaccurate.

"[Emanators are] Pathstriders with power directly granted by the Aeons. They are incomparably more powerful than mere mortals. They are typically enforcers of Aeons' wills."

Okay what exactly do you think being blessed by an aeon means? As I already said, nothing would change. it doesn't even matter because aeons = paths anyway.

So she died? Thanks

yes but not before she stopped his ascension and neutralized the bigger threat.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

"[Emanators are] Pathstriders with power directly granted by the Aeons. They are incomparably more powerful than mere mortals. They are typically enforcers of Aeons' wills."

Okay what exactly do you think being blessed by an aeon means? As I already said, nothing would change. it doesn't even matter because aeons = paths anyway.

If you’re standing on this and think Emanators are equal, are you arguing March = Zephyro? Why didn’t March just beat Iron Tomb by tag teaming witj Herta? Why did March struggle fighting the Doomsday Beast in a 1v4?

 

[Mommyleona]

HSR scaling is so tiring
Overall i agree with OP

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

If you’re standing on this and think Emanators are equal, are you arguing March = Zephyro? Why didn’t March just beat Iron Tomb by tag teaming witj Herta? Why did March struggle fighting the Doomsday Beast in a 1v4?

You've been pressing likes on op's posts everytime. Are you even reading my arguments and responses or what? He asked a similar question and I answered like two times already. Scroll up. Let's be serious...

 

[SuperNova55555]

Correlation? Physical attacks are SS and AP. Non-physical attacks can still be AP but not SS.

It means Herta doesn't scale to other Emanators physically. And if she doesn't no reason to assume the others do as well

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

You've been pressing likes on op's posts everytime. Are you even reading my arguments and responses or what? He asked a similar question and I answered like two times already. Scroll up. Let's be serious...

Answer the question. Simple yes or no. Is March equal to Zephyro?

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

It means Herta doesn't scale to other Emanators physically. And if she doesn't no reason to assume the others do as well

That's just factually wrong. It's in the rules.

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

Answer the question. Simple yes or no. Is March equal to Zephyro?

No? March's power is yet dormant. Evernight on the other hand... who knows.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

No? March's power is yet dormant. Evernight on the other hand... who knows.

So due to one reason or another one Emanator cannot unleash the same power as another

Ok so Evernight let everyone die to Zephyro right?

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

So due to one reason or another one Emanator cannot unleash the same power as another

Ok so Evernight let everyone die to Zephyro right?

-facepalm-

March is not an emanator as of now. Her powers are not awakened.

When? In the alternate timeline? They never went to amphoreus and evernight was never awakened either.

 

[Mbpoops]

-facepalm-

March is not an emanator as of now. Her powers are not awakened.

so was she just dressing up here?

 

[Mbpoops]

so was she just dressing up here?

i should also add we accept her as an emanator on her profile

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

-facepalm-

March is not an emanator as of now. Her powers are not awakened.

When? In the alternate timeline? They never went to amphoreus and evernight was never awakened either.

All Pure Children of Anasrava are Emanators.

Evernight has been part of March the whole time. She makes a brief appearance pre Penacony.

 

[Ezalipaz]

while March power as Remembrance Emanator is not awakened yet her power as Enigma Emanator is already awakened in the form of Evernight so to say that March is not Emanator level yet is just not true

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

She was using evernight's power at that fight yes. But the two are two distinct personas with different powers similarly to characters like Crazy Jane. The "main" persona does not have the powers of the others.

" "Evernight": And wipe the name "Pure Child of Anāsrava" from your mind. "Evernight": I am an obsession whose purpose is to protect you. The only memories I have are "yours.""

Not. Emanator. Yet.

 

[Mbpoops]

She was using evernight's power at that fight yes. But the two are two distinct personas with different powers similarly to characters like Crazy Jane. The "main" persona does not have the powers of the others.

She was using evernight’s power in the fight she just cant use evernight’s power is basically what you are saying

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

She was using time's authority and the memosprites. We don't know yet how it works and whether she can tap into Evernight whenever she wants. i also didnt see her use evernight's powers btw.

Also, are we discussing plot holes in the story or trying to scale? Because why are you asking me such weird questions? "why dont they team up to fight zephyro" like tf? Why doesn't zatanna solve every crisis with a spell if she is nigh omnipotent? why doesn't superman catch every villain on earth? don't be like that. that stuff doesn't belong here.

 

[Mbpoops]

Also, are we discussing plot holes in the story or trying to scale? Because why are you asking me such weird questions? "why dont they team up to fight zephyro" like tf? Why doesn't zatanna solve every crisis with a spell if she is nigh omnipotent? why doesn't superman catch every villain on earth? don't be like that. that stuff doesn't belong here.

Most the time these stories are self contained to certain characters in hoyo tho we SEE herta there and they get an army with the xienshou, galaxy rangers, etc the fact they needed this despite emanators supposedly being equal in strength means that they arent equal

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

Most the time these stories are self contained to certain characters in hoyo tho we SEE herta there and they get an army with the xienshou, galaxy rangers, etc the fact they needed this despite emanators supposedly being equal in strength means that they arent equal

bro. this has to be bait. how many times must we go through the fact that irontomb was a godlike being that needed the help of fuli, nous and the trailblaze (the most broken path in the verse) to kill. stop counting him as an regular emanator. he's a god-killer.

we need an actual moderator in this thread because what? why doesn't every faction then send their emanators to battle out everything and the winner takes it all or something. lets come up with random scenarios and questions to support our argument i guess. this wasnt meant to be a theorycrafting thread.

also that is quite literally what the anti-destruction alliance is trying to do? locate the ravagers and take them down?

 

[Mbpoops]

bro. this has to be bait. how many times must we go through the fact that irontomb was a godlike being that needed the help of fuli, nous and the trailblaze (the most broken path in the verse)

When was the trailblaze the most broken path?? Their aeon is dead yo (missing)

to kill. stop counting him as an regular emanator. he's a god-killer.

Yes COMPLETE IRONTOMB is but not incomplete irontomb incomplete irontomb we currently accept as a regular emanator

we need an actual moderator in this thread because what? why doesn't every faction then send their emanators to battle out everything and the winner takes it all or something. lets come up with random scenarios and questions to support our argument i guess. this wasnt meant to be a theorycrafting thread.

Ive asked but this isnt a god of war thread gotta be patient

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

When was the trailblaze the most broken path?? Their aeon is dead yo (missing)

being able to rewrite destiny and the future seems fairly strong to me ngl

Yes COMPLETE IRONTOMB is but not incomplete irontomb incomplete irontomb we currently accept as a regular emanator

i think that shouldn't be the case either. "incomplete" irontomb is far from a regular emanator... he already has all the accumulated energy, the blessings and the powers of destruction and erudition. why is he considered a regular one?

Ive asked but this isnt a god of war thread gotta be patient

i see. well let's just wait then. all in all, i do agree with you that the profiles require some better curating.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Someone drop a tldr bcs this is so incoherent im crying

 

[Mbpoops]

Op side:

Basically emanators characters in hsr that very blatantly vary in power yet for some reason they are all chainscaled to eachother currently (to the highest degree mind you) despite showing clear differences in strength so this thread is to remove the crossscaling between emanators. This also comes with the downgrade of a lot of the characters in the verse

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Well, all Lord Ravagers do and you're especially arguing Phantylia here to be 3-B in which Phantylia itself is a Lord Ravager. High-level Honkai Energy defaults to Low 1-C because Durandal scales to the Ether Bathtub & There's actually a higher level than High-level Honkai Energy and that is Lord Ravager-level in the page in which obviously they'd default to Low 1-C with the feats that Irontomb has. If you think that's not how UES work then nuke it; You'd be surprised by how hard it is to nuke a creation feat and everyone scaling to them because of UES, don't get me started when there's so many examples of Emanators drawing their powers from their own Paths and their statistics increasing drastically after.

I believe I don't even have to respond to the other person as all the arguments here could easily be debunked solely by the fact that the UES consistency makes it so that 3-B is legit impossible, the threads I've linked earlier should've told you how hard it is to make them be 3-B instead of you know, accepting them as Low 1-C.

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[PedjaTarzan]

^

Then remove low 1-C from everyone exluding complete irontomb and Fulirene and the amped ******* , what even makes zephyro low 1-C if hes below Complete Irontomb and his feat with welt cant even be scaled to physicals because its a shared feat + we dont know if he even survived outside assumption that he turned them into sin thirsters which is something only nihility can do

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I mean they are right, be as entilted as you are to even make this possible u have to nuke UES, or at least the tier where this ues scales you
But then you get everyone back at tier 3 which is something what you literally did here
You still have all emanators and tier 3 and therefore u still have this chainscaling with the only difference being its tier 3 and not tier 1
You can just start by scaling emanators with no feats to chadwick bomb, but that same bomb nukes scepters who alr have tier 3 ap so its still tier 3 thru its dura and ues (no scepter cant have tier 5 dura and tier 3 ap if it literally survives a strike from irontomb that wiped out entire fleet)
so what you are left with is hoyo just forgetting what is consistency and how to properly tier shit
As for pathstriders keeping up with emanators, can you actually name me pathstriders who actually have put emanators in genuine trouble because.
Lygus: He only got pushed back and then ee had to resort to remembrance hax to not get one shot by his serious self
Feixiao: Literally had schizophrenic episode of fighting herself while being restrained by 3 people (ignore how its absolute PIS that they even survived considering she was bloodlusted)
Incomplete irontomb already had 2 emanators fight him
and for sunday its either that he got nerfed or we got buffed by robin so choose what it is here

 

[Mbpoops]

Then remove low 1-C from everyone exluding complete irontomb and Fulirene and the amped ******* , what even makes zephyro low 1-C if hes below Complete Irontomb and his feat with welt cant even be scaled to physicals because its a shared feat + we dont know if he even survived outside assumption that he turned them into sin thirsters which is something only nihility can do

tbh i dont mind making zephyro 3-B aswell and low 1-C with white hole since it matches zeroth.

I mean they are right, be as entilted as you are to even make this possible u have to nuke UES, or at least the tier where this ues scales you

brother... please i beg of you explain how you think UES works. just becuase ONE character performs a feat with UES does NOT make all characters scale to that feat. everyone in fate would be T0, everyone in dragon ball would be 1-C, do you see the problem here?

But then you get everyone back at tier 3 which is something what you literally did here

they vary in T3 though not by much but thats just a verse issue. the verse genuienly has no feats higher than t3 EXCEPT phainon. i wouldnt even count cyrene and irontomb as tier 1 at most 2-A but they scale off firenon so yea

You still have all emanators and tier 3 and therefore u still have this chainscaling with the only difference being its tier 3 and not tier 1

they vary and do not chainscale (at least some of them dont scale off eachother ofc the ones we see comparable scale to eachother example jing yuan and phantylia, lygus and herta etc etc)

You can just start by scaling emanators with no feats to chadwick bomb, but that same bomb nukes scepters who alr have tier 3 ap so its still tier 3 thru its dura and ues (no scepter cant have tier 5 dura and tier 3 ap if it literally survives a strike from irontomb that wiped out entire fleet)

yap?

so what you are left with is hoyo just forgetting what is consistency and how to properly tier shit

idk what ur on abt bro

As for pathstriders keeping up with emanators, can you actually name me pathstriders who actually have put emanators in genuine trouble because.

i already did in the op. though i will admit some are iffy we do accept them as emanators (saber 1 tapping skaz = saber 1 tapping zephyro ig lol)

Lygus: He only got pushed back and then ee had to resort to remembrance hax to not get one shot by his serious self

so we beat him and he comes back with admin hax.. which was talked about easrlier in the thread

Feixiao: Literally had schizophrenic episode of fighting herself while being restrained by 3 people (ignore how its absolute PIS that they even survived considering she was bloodlusted)

well apparantly feixiao isnt an emanator and her profile is a straight up lie. we shouldnt accept her as an emanator only her stand (according to supporters)

Incomplete irontomb already had 2 emanators fight him

proves the thread right

and for sunday its either that he got nerfed or we got buffed by robin so choose what it is here

this one lowkey fair enough we had a whole plan n shit

 

[Mbpoops]

Then remove low 1-C from everyone exluding complete irontomb and Fulirene and the amped ******* ,

also is this not what the thread is doing?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

tbh i dont mind making zephyro 3-B aswell and low 1-C with white hole since it matches zeroth.

Okay so then what do you do with hi3 and kevin genuenly no diffing this same zeroth, mind you this isnt even hisnstrongest form as he then has upgraded shamash, diabolican form and then deliverance form what do we do about that? You want to remove low 1-C based on this but forget this is verse wide tiering that affects everything from hi3 to hsr

brother... please i beg of you explain how you think UES works. just becuase ONE character performs a feat with UES does NOT make all characters scale to that feat. everyone in fate would be T0, everyone in dragon ball would be 1-C, do you see the problem here?

Find me where i said this means everyone and their mother scales to this, im pretty sure it quotes what nether said abt HE potency, and like if u remove low 1-C from them entirely (as if they have any low 1-C feat after the downgrades) then why even bring it up in the entire thread

they vary in T3 though not by much but thats just a verse issue.

this is also applicable for tier 2 and tier 1 so it either means u literally wanted it gone bcs u dont like them being tier 1 or is there a genuine difference that completely gaps characters in power

the verse genuienly has no feats higher than t3 EXCEPT phainon. i wouldnt even count cyrene and irontomb as tier 1 at most 2-A but they scale off firenon so yea

Zephyro

they vary and do not chainscale (at least some of them dont scale off eachother ofc the ones we see comparable scale to eachother example jing yuan and phantylia, lygus and herta etc etc)

So why do you even propose same tiering for them even after the downgrade vro

yap?

W dodge

idk what ur on abt bro

i already did in the op. though i will admit some are iffy we do accept them as emanators (saber 1 tapping skaz = saber 1 tapping zephyro ig lol)

Then u just dont say “well they are same tier but still vary in power” instead u just separate tiers properly

so we beat him and he comes back with admin hax.. which was talked about easrlier in the thread

No he just fell down and got up seconds later tho link me the part of thread if u can

well apparantly feixiao isnt an emanator and her profile is a straight up lie. we shouldnt accept her as an emanator only her stand (according to supporters)

@SuperNova55555 and u call me out for complaining abt profiles, these mofos write anything
anyway feixiao IS an emanator wether by herself or the spiritus, thats her EXPLICIT status

proves the thread right

then write it in that way and dont cram in everything if only 3-4 points make sense and rest are just there for whatever reason

 

[PedjaTarzan]

also is this not what the thread is doing?

you still kept welt zephyro acheron and if im not wrong incomplete irontomb as tier 1

 

[Mbpoops]

you still kept welt zephyro acheron and if im not wrong incomplete irontomb as tier 1

Did you misread the end of the thread?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Did you misread the end of the thread?

ok so its either everyone is 3-C or that everyone is 3-C with acheron zephyro and welt having low 1-C ap since its genuenly both included in thread idk what you on bro

 

[Mbpoops]

Okay so then what do you do with hi3 and kevin genuenly no diffing this same zeroth,

Nothing? Zeroth is low 1-C im not changing that here? Please read the op?

mind you this isnt even hisnstrongest form as he then has upgraded shamash, diabolican form and then deliverance form what do we do about that? You want to remove low 1-C based on this but forget this is verse wide tiering that affects everything from hi3 to hsr

Ill touch hi3 in another thread most of that scaling is from dudu anyway but this literally doesnt affect like anyone in hi3 like at all

Find me where i said this means everyone and their mother scales to this, im pretty sure it quotes what nether said abt HE potency, and like if u remove low 1-C from them entirely (as if they have any low 1-C feat after the downgrades) then why even bring it up in the entire thread

Nether was saying HIGH LEVEL DEFAULTS TO LOW 1-C BECAUSE OF DURANDAL he said nothing about potency and you never answered my question you just asked another question

this is also applicable for tier 2 and tier 1 so it either means u literally wanted it gone bcs u dont like them being tier 1

Bro. Look at the verse. EVERYONE SCALES TO LOW 1-C when its supposed to be only god tiers. We have yunli on the same tier as nanook and to make it worst the justifications are stuff like destroying galaxies?? No one except phainon and aeons genuienly show low 1-C feats irontomb and cyrene just scale off firenon

or is there a genuine difference that completely gaps characters in power

Yes. Read the thread we’vre been over this unless you genuienly believe herta is boxing zephyro, phantylia is boxing zephyro, skaz is boxing irontomb etc

Zephyro

Again idm bringing him down and giving him low 1-C with white hole

So why do you even propose same tiering for them even after the downgrade vro

Well they arent the same tier lol. And again there just arent any feats higher than this please show one scaleable HSR feat above 3-B

W dodge

That part made no sense bruh

Then u just dont say “well they are same tier but still vary in power” instead u just separate tiers properly

You cant separete the tiers with no feats and again they are separated in the op though ofc not by a wide margin BECAUSE THERES GENUIENLY NO GREATER FEATS

No he just fell down and got up seconds later tho link me the part of thread if u can

You can see his hand sinking WE WON he just used admin hax

@SuperNova55555 and u call me out for complaining abt profiles, these mofos write anything
anyway feixiao IS an emanator wether by herself or the spiritus, thats her EXPLICIT status

Now im hearing conflicting arguments. Can we please pick a side and stay on it (not saying you are saying both woomy) im hearing that jing yuan and fei xiao are NOT emanators only their stand but now im hearing they are emanators so which one is it?

then write it in that way and dont cram in everything if only 3-4 points make sense and rest are just there for whatever reason

Yea im not the best at writing crts no excuses ill do better next time

 

[Mbpoops]

ok so its either everyone is 3-C or that everyone is 3-C with acheron zephyro and welt having low 1-C ap since its genuenly both included in thread idk what you on bro

No everyone past sunday is 3-B and everyone pre is 3-C+ unless i made some errors in the ratings

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Nothing? Zeroth is low 1-C im not changing that here? Please read the op?

Ill touch hi3 in another thread most of that scaling is from dudu anyway but this literally doesnt affect like anyone in hi3 like at all

what do you mean it doesnt affect hi3 at all
it has been made clear that welt can fight emanators
TB is S ranker and you can use Kianas statement, with only downside being that you would cap her there which theres no reason to anyway so yeah you SHOULD have tackled verse here too, especially that outside cocoon literally no one has low 1-C feat either
Ryusuke thing is hax based and CoF is just him

Nether was saying HIGH LEVEL DEFAULTS TO LOW 1-C BECAUSE OF DURANDAL he said nothing about potency and you never answered my question you just asked another question

Bro. Look at the verse. EVERYONE SCALES TO LOW 1-C when its supposed to be only god tiers. We have yunli on the same tier as nanook and to make it worst the justifications are stuff like destroying galaxies?? No one except phainon and aeons genuienly show low 1-C feats irontomb and cyrene just scale off firenon

Just remove low 1-C lil bro

Yes. Read the thread we’vre been over this unless you genuienly believe herta is boxing zephyro, phantylia is boxing zephyro, skaz is boxing irontomb etc

Again idm bringing him down and giving him low 1-C with white hole

And then UES kicks in and places him low 1-C anyway

Well they arent the same tier lol. And again there just arent any feats higher than this please show one scaleable HSR feat above 3-B

You have jobbed at your own argument bcs you are the one who proposed this, you are the one who said they VARY but also dont have big GAP and now u say this…

That part made no sense bruh

You cant separete the tiers with no feats and again they are separated in the op though ofc not by a wide margin BECAUSE THERES GENUIENLY NO GREATER FEATS

Just find who is genuenly galaxy level (Lord ravagers Generals and Acheron)
and who isnt (Erudition goons and every other featless emanator we have)

You can see his hand sinking WE WON he just used admin hax

Ill look at this later

Now im hearing conflicting arguments. Can we please pick a side and stay on it (not saying you are saying both woomy) im hearing that jing yuan and fei xiao are NOT emanators only their stand but now im hearing they are emanators so which one is it?

Dan Heng tells you that to be emanator u must use blessing from the Aeon, Spirituses are blessings direclty given from Lan, Generals use the spirituses and literally have “invalid rating” something every emanator (or implied emanator like sampo and luocha) have
Black swan calls them emanators, they are not inferior to lord ravagers and we literally have huaiyan fighting celenova and jing yuan fighting phantylia, what rocket science do you need for this, generals ARE emanators
this is like basic literacy test like genshin 1.1 quest with fake sky shit

Yea im not the best at writing crts no excuses ill do better next time

you better do, because this is genuenly undoable crt

 

[PedjaTarzan]

No everyone past sunday is 3-B and everyone pre is 3-C+ unless i made some errors in the ratings

And like what makes them 3B post sunday?

 

[Robo432343]

Even if you disagree you can’t deny that even the very fodder characters being low 1-c is strange

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Even if you disagree you can’t deny that even the very fodder characters being low 1-c is strange

Hes just gonna make them tier 4-3 anyway so like literally nothing is changed except they are tier 3 instead of tier 1, unless we just decide to keep emanators only tier 1 with no exception

 

[Mbpoops]

And like what makes them 3B post sunday?

Its in the op bro. Sunday affecting all of asdana tho which scales to 3-B cause its huge

 

[Mbpoops]

what do you mean it doesnt affect hi3 at all
it has been made clear that welt can fight emanators

So what???? Nobody scales off welt in hi3 he only fights kevin and gets no diffed why would this affect anyone currently with a profile

TB is S ranker

Talked abt already WE EVEN TALKED ABT IT OFF SITE

and you can use Kianas statement, with only downside being that you would cap her there which theres no reason to anyway so yeah you SHOULD have tackled verse here too, especially that outside cocoon literally no one has low 1-C feat either

What are you even talking about

Ryusuke thing is hax based and CoF is just him

No ine even brought up ryusuke. Matter of face he doesnt even have a profile why are we bringing him up?? This isnt relevant at all

Just remove low 1-C lil bro

Is that not what im doing?

And then UES kicks in and places him low 1-C anyway

You guys seriously dont know how UES workds

You have jobbed at your own argument bcs you are the one who proposed this, you are the one who said they VARY but also dont have big GAP and now u say this…

Well they do vary in the tiers lol how did i get “jobbed”. Please show me an actual feat in hsr above galaxy level that we can scale them too then.

Just find who is genuenly galaxy level (Lord ravagers Generals and Acheron)
and who isnt (Erudition goons and every other featless emanator we have)

Read. The. O.P.

Ill look at this later

Kk

Dan Heng tells you that to be emanator u must use blessing from the Aeon, Spirituses are blessings direclty given from Lan, Generals use the spirituses and literally have “invalid rating” something every emanator (or implied emanator like sampo and luocha) have
Black swan calls them emanators, they are not inferior to lord ravagers and we literally have huaiyan fighting celenova and jing yuan fighting phantylia, what rocket science do you need for this, generals ARE emanators
this is like basic literacy test like genshin 1.1 quest with fake sky shit

you better do, because this is genuenly undoable crt

what do you mean it doesnt affect hi3 at all
it has been made clear that welt can fight emanators
TB is S ranker and you can use Kianas statement, with only downside being that you would cap her there which theres no reason to anyway so yeah you SHOULD have tackled verse here too, especially that outside cocoon literally no one has low 1-C feat either
Ryusuke thing is hax based and CoF is just him

Just remove low 1-C lil bro

And then UES kicks in and places him low 1-C anyway

You have jobbed at your own argument bcs you are the one who proposed this, you are the one who said they VARY but also dont have big GAP and now u say this…

Just find who is genuenly galaxy level (Lord ravagers Generals and Acheron)
and who isnt (Erudition goons and every other featless emanator we have)

Ill look at this later

Dan Heng tells you that to be emanator u must use blessing from the Aeon, Spirituses are blessings direclty given from Lan, Generals use the spirituses and literally have “invalid rating” something every emanator (or implied emanator like sampo and luocha) have
Black swan calls them emanators, they are not inferior to lord ravagers and we literally have huaiyan fighting celenova and jing yuan fighting phantylia, what rocket science do you need for this, generals ARE emanators
this is like basic literacy test like genshin 1.1 quest with fake sky shit

Ur getting mad at me for hearing 2 opposing sides. YOU are saying they are emanators, plungin and nether are saying they ARENT emanators.

you better do, because this is genuenly undoable crt

I mean reiner voted so its pretty doable

 

[Mbpoops]

Ok now im actually concerned does anyone actually know how UES works just because one person scales a certain way from UES DOES NOT MEAN all characters scale this way. Like please be so for real and think about what ur saying here.

“High level honkai energy defaults to low 1-C”

Ok lets look at another verse that uses UES.. Fate.

The root (when the profile is finished n what not poor fate guys) scales to boundless and everyone with the UES would scale to boundless using this honkai energy logic. Lets use a different example cause fate is confusing

Ki in dragon ball. Please look at goku’s profile. Then look at Zeno’s profile. Notice how one is 1-C while the other is 2-C? Because UES does not scale the way you all are thinking THEY ARE STILL REQUIRED TO PERFORM A SIMILAR FEAT.

So saying lord ravengers, stellaron users, and emanators (even tho not all have honkai energy) in general automatically scale to low 1-C because of UES is just factually incorrect you dont scale from the UES you use the UES to perform feats with abilities that transfer to your ap stats.

Example: fireball blows up a galaxy. The fireball user’s ap, dc, speed, etc, would then scale to that despite not showing any physical feats (punching kicking etc).

Please think about the negative impact this will have on the wiki if you genuienly believe high level honkai energy automatically scales you.

Derailing my own thread with this one but its concerning to me that two people genuienly believe this desite talking to them about this same thing off site.

Edit: just to add on. Yes kid durandal uses high level honkai energy and fuses with the bubble world. This is unironically a better feat than anyone (except phainon irontomb and cyrene) has shown in hsr. Ive already said ill tackle hi3 scaling in another thread this thread has nothing to do with hi3 except welt but even then i said his scaling is so wacky it requires its own separate thread. Stop trying to loop hi3 into this