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Toothless vs Bowser (Illumination)

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Bowser (Illumination):
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Rules:
  • Both in 8-B
  • Bowser will only be able to use his fire breath and the Super Star
  • Toothless from the third movie is used, where he already has his prosthesis so that he can fly alone without Hiccup's help.
  • The speed is not equal: Toothless is supersonic and Bowser is subsonic
  • The fight takes place in Berk and it is at night
 
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Yeah toothless being able to fly makes Bowser pretty screwed here. Sure, his fire breath can go decently far like tens or so meters but not that far, but toothless's can go like several tens of meters. Not to mention that Toothless's unrivaled agility would make tagging him very hard if not impossible for Bowser.
Toothless, low diff. Prob a stomp.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Yeah toothless being able to fly makes Bowser pretty screwed here. Sure, his fire breath can go decently far like tens or so meters but not that far, but toothless's can go like several tens of meters. Not to mention that Toothless's unrivaled agility would make tagging him very hard if not impossible for Bowser.
Toothless, low diff. Prob a stomp.
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JustANormalLemon said:
Isn't bowser only 8-B with the star? the same star that is only a tempporary power boost
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No, it's even 8-B without the Power Stars; that would probably be 7-C. Bowser is 8-B because he survived the attack that destroyed part of his airship.
 
JustANormalLemon said:
No, large Building level without the star
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Durability can also give you an AP scale; another example is the MCU's Thanos, who is at least High 6-A, because Thanos survived the power surge of the Infinity Gauntlet, which Rocket Raccoon described as being of "ridiculous cosmic proportions," adding that "no one has ever seen anything like it." This feat demonstrates durability but is also applicable to AP. Even the MCU section explains that Thanos is at least High 6-A because of this
In this case, Bowser is 8-B because he survived the attack that destroyed part of his airship.
 
ARCH0207 said:
Durability can also give you an AP scale; another example is the MCU's Thanos, who is at least High 6-A, because Thanos survived the power surge of the Infinity Gauntlet, which Rocket Raccoon described as being of "ridiculous cosmic proportions," adding that "no one has ever seen anything like it." This feat demonstrates durability but is also applicable to AP. Even the MCU section explains that Thanos is at least High 6-A because of this
In this case, Bowser is 8-B because he survived the attack that destroyed part of his airship.
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No, not how that works, I will not enter the explanations here just know if is not on the profile It don't count, bowser isn't 8-B in anything other then Dura by It self
 
JustANormalLemon said:
No, not how that works, I will not enter the explanations here just know if is not on the profile It don't count, bowser isn't 8-B in anything other then Dura by It self
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If the Thanos example isn't enough for you, here's another example of how durability can grant AP: Another example is when Paramount's Sonic withstood the power of the Eclipse Cannon along with Shadow. And guess what? That's also reflected in the AP of both hedgehogs.
Bowser is also 8-B because he survived the attack that destroyed part of his airship.
Look, and you still refuse to accept that durability can grant AP even though I gave you two examples from the same context, well, I don't know what else to tell you, compadre.
 
ARCH0207 said:
If the Thanos example isn't enough for you, here's another example of how durability can grant AP: Another example is when Paramount's Sonic withstood the power of the Eclipse Cannon along with Shadow. And guess what? That's also reflected in the AP of both hedgehogs.
Bowser is also 8-B because he survived the attack that destroyed part of his airship.
Look, and you still refuse to accept that durability can grant AP even though I gave you two examples from the same context, well, I don't know what else to tell you, compadre.
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Again, this isn't my opnion this is how things work here, Bowser isn't 8-B and that's It, you need to make a CRT if you want to change It
 
ARCH0207 said:
Durability can also give you an AP scale; another example is the MCU's Thanos, who is at least High 6-A, because Thanos survived the power surge of the Infinity Gauntlet, which Rocket Raccoon described as being of "ridiculous cosmic proportions," adding that "no one has ever seen anything like it." This feat demonstrates durability but is also applicable to AP. Even the MCU section explains that Thanos is at least High 6-A because of this
In this case, Bowser is 8-B because he survived the attack that destroyed part of his airship.
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His AP isn't from taking the stones thing It's from having the stones that can achive this level of power
ARCH0207 said:
If the Thanos example isn't enough for you, here's another example of how durability can grant AP: Another example is when Paramount's Sonic withstood the power of the Eclipse Cannon along with Shadow. And guess what? That's also reflected in the AP of both hedgehogs.
Bowser is also 8-B because he survived the attack that destroyed part of his airship.
Look, and you still refuse to accept that durability can grant AP even though I gave you two examples from the same context, well, I don't know what else to tell you, compadre.
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Sonic can harm shadow, shadow can harm sonic who can survive the strengh of It's own punches, that's where the AP comes from not directly from the dura
 
JustANormalLemon said:
His AP isn't from taking the stones thing It's from having the stones that can achive this level of power

Sonic can harm shadow, shadow can harm sonic who can survive the strengh of It's own punches, that's where the AP comes from not directly from the dura
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That's not what they say in their profiles; their profiles clearly state that it was their durability that earned them that AP, not what you're saying. The profiles clearly state "DURABILITY."
 
ARCH0207 said:
That's not what they say in their profiles; their profiles clearly state that it was their durability that earned them that AP, not what you're saying. The profiles clearly state "DURABILITY."
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OMG It don't matter anyway sinse that's not how It is in bowser profile, if you disagree go make a CRT about It
 
JustANormalLemon said:
Sonic can harm shadow, shadow can harm sonic who can survive the strengh of It's own punches, that's where the AP comes from not directly from the dura
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Strong enough to hold his own against Super Shadow, and held off the laser of the Eclipse Cannon alongside him, though he was knocked out by the effort.
 
ARCH0207 said:
Characters like Post-Awakening Thor, Iron Man's nanotech armours and Captain America with Mjölnir are at least Multi-Continent level due to Thanos surviving the power surge from the Infinity Gauntlet that Rocket Raccoon described as being of "ridiculously cosmic proportions", adding that "no one's seen anything like it"
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They scale to that because they can all harm Thanos, who can withstand that level of energy. From what I can tell Bowser doesn't have any feats of hurting people that can hurt him. I've never seen the movie tho but going off of just the profile it doesn't seem like he does. Your AP doesn't automatically get scaled from your durability. Stone walls are a thing after all

I'm not seeing anyway for Bowser to hurt Toothless given High 8-C AP vs 8-B durability, nor am I seeing any way for Bowser to counter the range difference & the fact that Toothless can fly. Pretty sure this is a stomp
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
They scale to that because they can all harm Thanos, who can withstand that level of energy. From what I can tell Bowser doesn't have any feats of hurting people that can hurt him. I've never seen the movie tho but going off of just the profile it doesn't seem like he does. Your AP doesn't automatically get scaled from your durability. Stone walls are a thing after all

I'm not seeing anyway for Bowser to hurt Toothless given High 8-C AP vs 8-B durability, nor am I seeing any way for Bowser to counter the range difference & the fact that Toothless can fly. Pretty sure this is a stomp
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So you're voting for Toothless?
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
I'm saying this match can't happen because there's no way for Bowser to win under the current circumstances. You can't add stomp matches
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I've been thinking, and I believe the only way Bowser can have an 8-B in AP is with the Super Star, what do you think?
 
Voting Toothless. Bowser can harm Toothless with the star but it may wear off before he can beat him.
 
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