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My apologies, but ugh.Sentry is almost here again… The preview is great…
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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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MrKerf
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You and Rgerdeena are both dead to me.My apologies, but ugh.
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I think dimension of Manifestation being considered an upper realm is more interesting imho. Even more so with the Living Tribunal being... in charge? of it?View attachment 942
Well, we knew most of this before, but the Storm writer contradicts that the Phoenix Force/White Hot Room is supposed to be below the land of couldn't be/can't be (The Griever?), which in turn is supposed to be below the Never Queen who is the land of what might be/should be, if I remember the titles correctly.
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hmm, maybe dimension of manifestations has some connection to the superflow, because living tribunul’s the most powerful being in the superflow with everyone above him being beyond it
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Well, it is the whole idea of his Jungian shadow personality going around being a genocidal nihilistic mass-murderer. I don't find that inspiring at all. My apologies.
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I mean, from what little I know about Sentry, I don't think it's SUPPOSED to be inspiring...Well, it is the whole idea of his Jungian shadow personality going around being a genocidal nihilistic mass-murderer. I don't find that inspiring at all. My apologies.
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True, so we'll have to see if further issues support this.View attachment 942
Well, we knew most of this before, but the Storm writer contradicts that the Phoenix Force/White Hot Room is supposed to be below the land of couldn't be/can't be (The Griever?), which in turn is supposed to be below the Never Queen who is the land of what might be/should be, if I remember the titles correctly.
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Not really, it'll just remove 1 layer.This will make our layers into high 1-A fall apart
Especially since the modern writers still display the WHR as "the white page which the comics are written on".
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How do we know the Upper Realms are even ordered and not just a list?View attachment 942
Well, we knew most of this before, but the Storm writer contradicts that the Phoenix Force/White Hot Room is supposed to be below the land of couldn't be/can't be (The Griever?), which in turn is supposed to be below the Never Queen who is the land of what might be/should be, if I remember the titles correctly.
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we don’t, everyone(including myself) kind of just assumed they were ordered
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no? we know there are levels of Trascendence becuase the stories where we meet those realms show it, the own map dont even tell us if was just naming realms without order or anything, hell, it say "Eternity every-expanding Universe (Space-time)" instead multiverse
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What is making the High 1-A fall apart then? Sorry, once it gets up to High 1-A my understanding of the tiering system ends.
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The white hot room has meta qualitive superiority over the beyond, the land of can be shall be has meta qualitive superiority over the land of couldn’t be shouldn’t be, the house of ideas has meta qualitative superiority over the land of can be shall be, if the white hot room was above the land of can be shall be it would make us lose a layer due to land of can be shall be no longer having meta qualitive superiority over something beyond the white hot room, I was being dramatic, to be funny, by equating losing a layer with making the high 1-A fall apart
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In Defenders Beyond we did receive a hierarchical transcendental order for them.
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That makes sense but this list from Storm specifically is missing a lot from what I can tell. I think it gives a decent general outline for the hierarchy but I don't think it should be used for our scalingIn Defenders Beyond we did receive a hierarchical transcendental order for them.
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Apologies, but isn't, within the confines of the narrative, that isn't a hierarchy chart but a map.
Like due to the metaphysical nature of everything, it does work to an extent as well as a cosmology hierarchy
but those demigods don't have that there to list out who is above who. They're basically just discussing charting out their path towards freeing Susanoo and where they have to go in order to get there.
Like due to the metaphysical nature of everything, it does work to an extent as well as a cosmology hierarchy
but those demigods don't have that there to list out who is above who. They're basically just discussing charting out their path towards freeing Susanoo and where they have to go in order to get there.
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No need for the apologies, everything you said is correct
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Also question, why does Magik's sword still have the specified weakness of not able to kill non-magical beings when that's not been true for over a decade now?
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Do you have scans, I know virtually nothing about Magik so I have no idea if you’re correct
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The first time she destroys something non-magical with the soul sword is when she cuts a sentinel in half in issue 1 of Bendis' Uncanny X-men
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eh seems legit, but like I said I know almost nothing about her so I’m probably not the best person to judge how consistent it is that it can effect non magic stuffThe first time she destroys something non-magical with the soul sword is when she cuts a sentinel in half in issue 1 of Bendis' Uncanny X-men
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Yes. Agreed. Defenders:Beyond was much more reliable.
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Well, Bendis recurrently has no idea what he is doing in terms of logical coherence and continuity of the storytelling.The first time she destroys something non-magical with the soul sword is when she cuts a sentinel in half in issue 1 of Bendis' Uncanny X-men
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That isn't the only time, and I know that, I just use it as the first time.Well, Bendis recurrently has no idea what he is doing in terms of logical coherence and continuity of the storytelling.
Another example not far after is Magik killing Sinister by decapitating him in the lemire run.
And here's her cutting Raza's arm off from Hickman's run
and her decapitating Sabertooth during WoR
and her killing brood
fall of Krakoa
And here's her cutting Raza's arm off from Hickman's run
and her decapitating Sabertooth during WoR
and her killing brood
fall of Krakoa
Decided to provide a wide array across different eras
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I am officially convinced that it can interact with non magical stuffThat isn't the only time, and I know that, I just use it as the first time.
Another example not far after is Magik killing Sinister by decapitating him in the lemire run.
And here's her cutting Raza's arm off from Hickman's run
and her decapitating Sabertooth during WoR
and her killing brood
fall of Krakoa
Decided to provide a wide array across different eras
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We need a massive update on her and a lot of the untouched profiles. I want to do a Robbie Reyes one eventually
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Magic’s weird when it comes to scaling if you’re not skyfather tier and up, that’s probably why
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I was referring to the character but even still I think you make sense.
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I mean isn't she always kinda like that?So the latest issue of "The Mortal Thor" is out, and Amora the Enchantress is being a major piece of shit there as usual.
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Yes, but here she is scheming to do horrible things to her own son for the sake of hollow power-lust, who is a very nice person I might add (to the degree of being a major peacemaker), arguably considerably more so than his father Thor.
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