VeneficaAuthor's 2nd Country Class Tourney (Low 6-B, 6-B, and High 6-B allowed) (8/8)

[VeneficaAuthor]

Hello all! It's been over a year and a half since I last hosted a tournament, and lately I've felt that itch again, and Exsenna's latest tourney just ended so here we are. FCOC's forum is generally less active than it was around two years ago, so I'm hoping to revive it through this as well. The first Country Class tourney was very active, so here's to hoping.

Anyway, exactly like before, this is a 'Country Class tourney', meaning that any character whose AP value falls into the country-level spectrum is permitted. A lot of the rules will be the same, although I'm going to be more lenient towards hax this time around since I would like some strong challengers. Speaking of, as far as submissions go, I'd like anyone who plans to enter here to only submit a character they believe has a good chance to win. If you think they'll get stomped, don't put them in. This should make for more interesting debates.

High 6-B characters will be looked at through a more strict lens due to this tourney allowing characters they could easily one shot. Abilities which allow someone to surpass High 6-B will also not be allowed, including powers such as reactive evolution and the like.

Without further ado, on to the rules. They are virtually the same as the first country tourney.

Ground Rules:
Characters who reach Tier Low 6-B, 6-B, and High 6-B are allowed to participate in this tournament. But there are a few rules to determine the hax levels these characters are allowed to have, including:

1. No time hax, plot hax, fate hax, or any similar power which can completely override a battle.
2. Regeneration is allowed to range from Low to High-Mid, no higher is permitted.
3. Optional equipment is restricted unless specified.
4. The People Fighting start 100 Meters away from each other.
5. Submit 2 characters at Max.
6. Vs Battles Characters aren't encouraged, but will be accepted if there is waning participation.
7. Any ability surpassing High 6-B is completely restricted.
8. All matches have Speed Equalized.
9. All matches take place in an endless, empty, flat plain. Zero environmental advantages. This rule will not apply if a specific character cannot survive beyond a specific environment.
10. Provide exact AP values when possible.
11. Only submit profiles that will not be subject to any substantial updates in the near future.
12. Only submit characters you believe have a good chance to win.
13. No updating the abilities in profiles during the tourney's runtime.
14. Reserved spots are allowed for up to three days.
15. Hax will be judged on a case by case basis.

I'm also opening to adding or altering the current rules to make the tourney as optimal as possible. Good luck and have fun!

ALL FIGHTERS:

1. Soul (FlipLaScript, 521.023 Teratons of TNT, Adult Key, Red Flower)
2. Jukido Midoriya (Spinoirr, 18.65 Teratons of TNT, Final War Arc)
3. Selena (Boss, 4.2657... teratons, Last General)
4. Jez Firth (Username, 453.37 Teratons of TNT, Early game)
5. Bowser (DiamondDrone, 611 Teratons, 2024/Bowser vs Eggman)
6. Exetior (ARandomDude, 17.71 teratons, Sonic key)
7. Naruto (Exsenna, 3.59 teratons, death battle)
8. SMBZ Mario (Venefica, 9.92878 Teratons of TNT, 2006)

 

[FlipLaScript]

No FLIPpin way

Lets go i've been wanting to see how my country tier guys would fare in a tournament

I'd like to submit:

Soul (Scales to 521.023 Teratons of TNT, Adult Key with access to the Red Flower)
Prime Tomato (Massively upscales from 6.138 Teratons of TNT, in his Prime Tomato key for obvious reasons. Similarly to Soul starting out overclocked in the 2nd generals of grove tournament it'd probably be for the best to specify that he would start in his 3rd form)

Prime Tomato's absurd heat should make up for the AP disadvantage :3

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

No FLIPpin way

Lets go i've been wanting to see how my country tier guys would fare in a tournament

I'd like to submit:

Soul (Scales to 521.023 Teratons of TNT, Adult Key with access to the Red Flower)
Prime Tomato (Massively upscales from 6.138 Teratons of TNT, in his Prime Tomato key for obvious reasons. Similarly to Soul starting out overclocked in the 2nd generals of grove tournament it'd probably be for the best to specify that he would start in his 3rd form)

Prime Tomato's absurd heat should make up for the AP disadvantage :3

Tomato is good

I just have questions about Soul, since I've seen his matches. He has invulnerability which becomes applicable when he is running, correct? Fighting is a very movement based activity, and alongside possessing the ability of 30 seconds of unrestricted invulnerability even without moving, would this not make him invulnerable 99% of the time? Combined with fear stuff and apparently gargantuan laser attacks, he might be too much. I said I want strong challengers, but I still want fair debates.

Also, how much heat exactly does the red flower imbue into Soul's attacks? I couldn't find an exact value. If there isn't one, I'll take an estimate

 

[FlipLaScript]

I just have questions about Soul, since I've seen his matches. He has invulnerability which becomes applicable when he is running, correct? Fighting is a very movement based activity, and alongside possessing the ability of 30 seconds of unrestricted invulnerability even without moving, would this not make him invulnerable 99% of the time? Combined with fear stuff and apparently gargantuan laser attacks, he might be too much. I said I want strong challengers, but I still want fair debates.

The 30 second bonus invulnerability is locked behind being overclocked (which he doesnt have access to here due to pushing him to 6-A values), and the fear stuff is locked behind rage power, which has only been used once in canon in a situation involving losing his friends. Overclocked cant be used here and I highly, highly doubt that any opponent can get him into a position in which he'll use rage power :0

As for the base invulnerability, it only applies when running specifically. This means that jumping, swinging and doing anything that isn't running (as long as it's not paired with running, which he hasn't been shown to do yet), won't make him invulnerable. It'll be less of a talking point than in past tournaments now that I've looked back at the doc and constituted on what counts as running lmao

As for the laser attacks...yeah, they're big, and there's no contradictions to that. It has a width of 21.59 meters, which is large to say the least. The good news is that without access to his buffs like overclocked and rage power, there will be absolutely no increases to the size of the things :3

Also, how much heat exactly does the red flower imbue into Soul's attacks? I couldn't find an exact value. If there isn't one, I'll take an estimate

Good question actually

Given that it can burn Connor, who has a resistance to fire and should be able to tank atmosphere re-entry speeds (given that he entered a planet with a breathable atmosphere without any protection twice), it should upscale from 1,650 degrees celsius. It also stays on until its put out (now that I think about it, you can probably remove the red flower as optional equipment if you'd like :0)

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

The 30 second bonus invulnerability is locked behind being overclocked (which he doesnt have access to here due to pushing him to 6-A values), and the fear stuff is locked behind rage power, which has only been used once in canon in a situation involving losing his friends. Overclocked cant be used here and I highly, highly doubt that any opponent can get him into a position in which he'll use rage power :0

As for the base invulnerability, it only applies when running specifically. This means that jumping, swinging and doing anything that isn't running (as long as it's not paired with running, which he hasn't been shown to do yet), won't make him invulnerable. It'll be less of a talking point than in past tournaments now that I've looked back at the doc and constituted on what counts as running lmao

As for the laser attacks...yeah, they're big, and there's no contradictions to that. It has a width of 21.59 meters, which is large to say the least. The good news is that without access to his buffs like overclocked and rage power, there will be absolutely no increases to the size of the things :3


Good question actually

Given that it can burn Connor, who has a resistance to fire and should be able to tank atmosphere re-entry speeds (given that he entered a planet with a breathable atmosphere without any protection twice), it should upscale from 1,650 degrees celsius. It also stays on until its put out (now that I think about it, you can probably remove the red flower as optional equipment if you'd like :0)

I see

I think the red flower is fine. Generally speaking Soul should be good to go

 

[FlipLaScript]

I see

I think the red flower is fine. Generally speaking Soul should be good to go

Lets goooo

 

[Spinoirr]

Rainbow Dash: Upscales to 7 Teratons of TNT from 5.47565244 Teratons of TNT

Jukido Midoriya (Final War Arc): 18.65 Teratons of TNT, up to 6-A with Acceleration Comet, however given its a Up to and varies, for this the cap is up to 760 Teratons

 

[FlipLaScript]

Jukido Midoriya (Final War Arc): 18.65 Teratons of TNT, up to 6-A with Acceleration Comet, however given its a Up to and varies, for this the cap is up to 760 Teratons

Im pretty sure the 6-A stuff would just not be allowed rather than cap off at 760 teratons :0

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Rainbow Dash: Upscales to 7 Teratons of TNT from 5.47565244 Teratons of TNT

Jukido Midoriya (Final War Arc): 18.65 Teratons of TNT, up to 6-A with Acceleration Comet, however given its a Up to and varies, for this the cap is up to 760 Teratons

Gonna hold off on rainbow dash for now since I only want to let main wiki characters in if fcoc can't fill it up on its own. Do you have anyone else from FCOC?

Jukido is good, but yeah I'll have to cap him unless it's purely a technique. He gains that extra power from absorption correct?

 

[Spinoirr]

Gonna hold off on rainbow dash for now since I only want to let main wiki characters in if fcoc can't fill it up on its own. Do you have anyone else from FCOC?

Jukido is good, but yeah I'll have to cap him unless it's purely a technique. He gains that extra power from absorption correct?

Yeah

 

[FlipLaScript]

What's the verdict on alt battles submissions? :0

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

What's the verdict on alt battles submissions? :0

Those are perfectly fine!

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

What's the verdict on alt battles submissions? :0

I know you already have two submissions but this tourney hasn't caught on quite like I wanted, so you can submit from from alt's now if you like

 

[FlipLaScript]

I know you already have two submissions but this tourney hasn't caught on quite like I wanted, so you can submit from from alt's now if you like

Oh fr? Nice :]

Since I dont have any country tier characters in Alt Battles myself (and have exhausted the country FC/OC characters i have), I'll pull from the community source that is DEATH BATTLE! and submit DEATH BATTLE!'s Bowser, being the only one I could find who I think would have a shot at top 3 territory.

For equipment, I think the best equipment would be limiting him to the star rod and magic wand. Given that he has the highest AP value of the current tournament participants at 611 Teratons, giving him any of his optional equipment seems unfair, especially with how busted they can be (I see the transmutation attached to the magic wand, but for reasons I'll explain in tournament threads later in the tournament I dont think it'll be super in character to use) :0

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Oh fr? Nice :]

Since I dont have any country tier characters in Alt Battles myself (and have exhausted the country FC/OC characters i have), I'll pull from the community source that is DEATH BATTLE! and submit DEATH BATTLE!'s Bowser, being the only one I could find who I think would have a shot at top 3 territory.

For equipment, I think the best equipment would be limiting him to the star rod and magic wand. Given that he has the highest AP value of the current tournament participants at 611 Teratons, giving him any of his optional equipment seems unfair, especially with how busted they can be (I see the transmutation attached to the magic wand, but for reasons I'll explain in tournament threads later in the tournament I dont think it'll be super in character to use) :0

He's good to go

 

[Bossbrosish]

I'm going to nominate Selena and Mateo (Last General Arc key for both)

Selena and Mateo scales to 1.0664435944782 Teratons and Selena is 4.2657743779128 Teratons with her full power state

 

[FlipLaScript]

Damn the tournament already died and it hasnt even started

A lot of the FC/OC members with country tier characters who submitted in the last tourney are inactive nowadays (Notably Cathy, FroggyTron & Javen, although the latter isnt super well known for country tiered characters im pretty sure), which might be a contributing factor :0

While there are still some people who'll probably submit FC/OC characters (Theres the SMBZ guys who people submit to tourneys often, Karuu has a few 6-Bs in Killer Nhazul and, if I'm not wrong, Vene could submit one of his characters if wanted), it may be good to open up VSBW submissions now, since it'll gain another spot with rainbow dash and Rayfire implied that he may have a VSBW character that would work :u

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Karuu has a few 6-Bs in Killer Nhazul

You should ask him about that

A lot of the FC/OC members with country tier characters who submitted in the last tourney are inactive nowadays (Notably Cathy, FroggyTron & Javen, although the latter isnt super well known for country tiered characters im pretty sure), which might be a contributing factor :0

I think they largely have zero interest in anything to do with fcoc anymore ngl. Except froggy. He’s just super busy as far as I know. It’s been that way for months.

Vene could submit one of his characters if wanted

I can… but do I WANT to

 

[FlipLaScript]

You should ask him about that

I did because why not, he said that he'll try and find someone :3

EDIT: he changed his mind lmao

I think they largely have zero interest in anything to do with fcoc anymore ngl. Except froggy. He’s just super busy as far as I know. It’s been that way for months.

Damn man I just barely missed some of the goats of 2019-2023 FC/OC

I wonder what Froggy's busy on though...

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

EDIT: he changed his mind lmao

Why??

I wonder what Froggy's busy on though...

It's college

 

[Rayfire]

I think they largely have zero interest in anything to do with fcoc anymore ngl.

Yuh I still talk with them a lot outside of here. From the sounds of it debating isn’t really their shtick atm. There’s been tad bits of activity from them on the wiki but not here

Rayfire implied that he may have a VSBW character that would work :u

Yes

 

[ExSENNA]

Higher tier tournaments are much more difficult to fill. I experienced this as well in my tournaments where I had to downgrade to 8, but when I did tier 8 tournaments getting 16 was much easier

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Higher tier tournaments are much more difficult to fill. I experienced this as well in my tournaments where I had to downgrade to 8, but when I did tier 8 tournaments getting 16 was much easier

The first country class tournament had an excess of submissions, I think fcoc today is just significantly less active for whatever reason.

 

[FlipLaScript]

Why??

I dont know

It's college

Well that'll do it lmao

The first country class tournament had an excess of submissions, I think fcoc today is just significantly less active for whatever reason.

I can side with this, I had a country duos tournament a while ago (It went to shit but it did still happen) and submissions came in real quick :0

Yes

Vene, are we able to open up vsbw submissions? :0

 

[FlipLaScript]

I'm going to nominate Selena and Mateo (Last General Arc key for both)

(Also, are selena and mateo good to go?-)

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Neat

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

(Also, are selena and mateo good to go?-)

They are

Neat

Would you like to make a submission? I’m not about to let this tourney be majority main wiki…

I can side with this, I had a country duos tournament a while ago (It went to shit but it did still happen) and submissions came in real quick :0


Vene, are we able to open up vsbw submissions? :0

It would be cool if someone else from that tourney showed up here

I’ll still hold off on main wiki. As I said, I won’t let it be majority main wiki. At that point this should just be a main wiki tourney lol.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Would you like to make a submission? I’m not about to let this tourney be majority main wiki…

I’ll see what I can find

 

[Rayfire]

I’ll still hold off on main wiki. As I said, I won’t let it be majority main wiki. At that point this should just be a main wiki tourney lol.

I mean if you decide to cut this to 8 participants it won't be

 

[FlipLaScript]

I mean if you decide to cut this to 8 participants it won't be

If it were cut down to 8 then I would have a bit under half the submitted characters, I dont know if that's an option

Plus there's gotta be someone with country tier FC/OC, Joke or Alt Battles guys who'd be willing to submit :0

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I mean if you decide to cut this to 8 participants it won't be

Gonna give it more time man

If I cut it to 8, I’ll boot death battle bowser so flip doesn’t have 3 submissions. And prolly eliminate double submissions all together actually. So I guess flip would just have one

 

[Rayfire]

Aight

 

[FlipLaScript]

I’ll see what I can find

Manage to get anything yet? :3

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Manage to get anything yet? :3

Yep

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

can I submit this?

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

can I submit this?

The Regen cap is High-Mid, so unfortunately no. This character has Mid-High regen.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

For the sake of keeping the tourney from dying I'm actually going to switch it to 8 now.

So, here's how this will go. I'd like for Flip to choose between Soul and tomato for who he wants to stay in the tourney (not db bowser since he's on alt), and I'd also like for Boss to choose between Selena and Mateo for who should stay in the tourney since the new submission limit is one.

Jukido will stay as is.

So that puts us at 3/8. I may submit someone myself as well, so that would be half full. Surely we can find a couple more people to add someone from FCOC.

As for Mr. Flys, I would allow him if not for the regen thing, so someone else in that general area would be fine.

 

[FlipLaScript]

So, here's how this will go. I'd like for Flip to choose between Soul and tomato for who he wants to stay in the tourney (not db bowser since he's on alt)

Soul's still one of the best guys I have for actually winning the thing, so I'll go with him :3

can I submit this?

The Regen cap is High-Mid, so unfortunately no. This character has Mid-High regen.

Looks like you're picking out of Karuu's characters

Karuu does have 2 other characters who would work with the tournament's tiers and rules, those of which you could submit. There's Chapter 1-2 Nhazul & Mera Hecate (I could've sworn that Jez was 6-B at some point too, but ig that changed with episode 2)

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Soul's still one of the best guys I have for actually winning the thing, so I'll go with him :3

Sounds good

Karuu does have 2 other characters who would work with the tournament's tiers and rules, those of which you could submit. There's Chapter 1-2 Nhazul & Mera Hecate (I could've sworn that Jez was 6-B at some point too, but ig that changed with episode 2)

Mera would certainly not win, so Nhazul it is. Although, he's only fine because he supposedly loses the (very questionable) fate stuff in that key.

 

[Username_uhhhIdontknow]

Sounds good

Mera would certainly not win, so Nhazul it is. Although, he's only fine because he supposedly loses the (very questionable) fate stuff in that key.

Nice and what