The Eminence In Shadow: Magic And Stats Upgrades And a Minor Upgrade For Alexia

[XxZetsuxX]

Since magic can make people surpass the limitations of the human body, they should reasonably upscale from feats perfomed without magic from humans

It would be something like this "They should be able to increase their senses to a level superior to Cid's when he doesn't use magic" in the following senses;

• (Enhanced Awareness - Cid is able to sense people who are trailing him)
• (Enhanced Smell - Was able to smell blood on someone from some distance, here again)
• (Enhanced Hearing - Is able to hear and process several conversations, heard two swords colliding when his friends did not, can perfectly hear an entire conversation from outside the window)
• (Enhanced Touch - Cid can perceive the subtle shaking of the earth generated by someone approaching)

The feats themself are already accepted and on his profile

Also following this thread which was kinda forgotten, i would like to add for the whole verse that they all scale to Alexia who tanked the shockwave that pulvurized a table and got sent flying to a wall which would place everyone at 1.5 Megajoules (downscales though)

I would also like to add this to Alexia;

Higher with Iris swordsmanship (Managed to match Zenon who was considered stronger than her)

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[Mr. Bambu]

I don't really understand where you're going with the senses justification. Like yeah, all of those are feats of enhanced senses, but you seem to be making it a broader statement about magic enhancing him. Is Cid non-magical? Are all magic users amplifying their senses?

That shockwave feat sucks, I'd disagree with it being used. Tanking a "shockwave" of an attack that pulverized a table is in no way going to inflict remotely the same damage as was done to the table itself. Absolutely not how that works.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I don't really understand where you're going with the senses justification. Like yeah, all of those are feats of enhanced senses, but you seem to be making it a broader statement about magic enhancing him. Is Cid non-magical? Are all magic users amplifying their senses?

All of these feats done by Cid is him without magic

Magic as stated above said feats, are capable of enhancing the user's senses to superhuman levels

The proposal here is basically magic users upscale Cid's senses while he is not using magic

That shockwave feat sucks, I'd disagree with it being used. Tanking a "shockwave" of an attack that pulverized a table is in no way going to inflict remotely the same damage as was done to the table itself. Absolutely not how that works.

Ah, that's a shame

EDIT: Would it be acceptable if the feat was point blank? Because Alexia was kinda shackled to the table and she narrowly dodged it, the energy dispersion shouldn't be that high

 

[Mr. Bambu]

All of these feats done by Cid is him without magic

Why do you phrase it like that?

Is he a magic user, and does he have access to these enhanced senses?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Why do you phrase it like that?

Apologies, i didn't double check

Is he a magic user, and does he have access to these enhanced senses?

He is, the thing is, in all of these situations, he was in a casual scenario that didn't require him to use it (Zefra can give further input once he gets online)

 

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[XxZetsuxX]

Is he a magic user, and does he have access to these enhanced senses?

I will try this again;

Cid when he was a infant, he stated that he used magic to alter his body for combat. So, his current body (without magic) is peak human hence why he has enhanced senses, his feats in the justifications, were all outside of combat

I hope this cleared these 2 answers

Next, there's the 2 scans on the CRT above (2 first scans) saying that people can increase their senses with magic with magic having a superhuman narrative

The proposal here is that magic users upscale Cid's peak human body senses with magic that is considered superhuman

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Magic can be used to boost the body to superhuman levels, and this includes senses, so that's cool, the question though is how do you know whether or not Cid in any of the examples given isn't using magic? Yea it's not stated, but it can very much be implied, though regardless the cast has superhuman senses, so I don't exactly see the point in arguing for or against it.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Magic can be used to boost the body to superhuman levels, and this includes senses, so that's cool, the question though is how do you know whether or not Cid in any of the examples given isn't using magic? Yea it's not stated, but it can very much be implied, though regardless the cast has superhuman senses, so I don't exactly see the point in arguing for or against it.

Because;

• (Enhanced Awareness - Cid is able to sense people who are trailing him) - This is him inside the school campus, he is just walking around after just getting tortured by false alligations, no reason to use magic when life is not in danger

• (Enhanced Smell - Was able to smell blood on someone from some distance, here again) - This should be answered by Zefra too, he knows the context

• (Enhanced Hearing - Is able to hear and process several conversations, heard two swords colliding when his friends did not, can perfectly hear an entire conversation from outside the window)

The first feat is him in the cafeteria in school, again, no need for magic, the 2nd feat was him hanging out with his 2 friends to school (iirc?), the 3rd feat was him in his room just looking outside of the window, no need for magic

• (Enhanced Touch - Cid can perceive the subtle shaking of the earth generated by someone approaching) - This needs to be answered by Zefra as he is the one who added game scans

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Also, the point of this CRT is to add these senses to magic users (upscaling from Cid without magic)

which are currently listed as Cid only feats

 

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[Zefra3011]

Magic can be used to boost the body to superhuman levels, and this includes senses, so that's cool, the question though is how do you know whether or not Cid in any of the examples given isn't using magic? Yea it's not stated, but it can very much be implied, though regardless the cast has superhuman senses, so I don't exactly see the point in arguing for or against it.

Because they are either him being taken by surprise or him acting as an NPC.

• (Enhanced Touch - Cid can perceive the subtle shaking of the earth generated by someone approaching)

For this one, after rereading the scene, he was in fact likely boosting his senses; this should go to "with magic."

• (Enhanced Smell - Was able to smell blood on someone from some distance, here again)

This isn't very straightforward, but I don't really think he was boosting his senses just because. I don't really see a reason why he would. I don't think he boosts them 24/7.

• (Enhanced Hearing - Is able to hear and process several conversations, heard two swords colliding when his friends did not, can perfectly hear an entire conversation from outside the window)

Here, it's Cid mainly acting as an NPC, and in the first scan, he just says "I have good hearing," which makes no sense when you're just boosting it like the entire verse unless your normal hearing is actually good. Plus, he had no real interest in those conversations.

• (Enhanced Awareness - Cid is able to sense people who are trailing him)

It's in the same scene where he doesn't heal his wounds because he wants to act as an NPC, so I'm not sure an NPC would boost his senses either.

I think Hearing and Awareness are fair to keep in "no magic." For the rest, I won't contest further if you believe they should be moved to "with magic".

 

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