Takaba vs Makima

[Tuxidoe_Redo]

Fumihiko Takaba

Fumihiko Takaba (髙たか羽ば 史彦ふみひこ, Takaba Fumihiko?) is a character in the Jujutsu Kaisen series. He was a comedian before awakening his cursed technique during the culling games and becoming one of the strongest competitors and his role was vital in defeating the Special Grade past sorcerer...

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Makima

Makima (マキマ?) is the enigmatic leader of Public Safety Devil Extermination Special Division 4 as well as the Chief Cabinet Secretary's Personal Devil Hunter. Her true identity is later revealed to be that of the Control Devil, the fear of control and domination embodied who seeks to utilize the...

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Speed equalized

 

[Rogue_Forge]

How does Takaba lose this? what are Makima's actual win cons here

 

[Arkenis]

She outstaminas him or just picks him off.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

She outstaminas him

They both have Superhuman Stamina

or just picks him off.

Elaborate

 

[Arkenis]

They both have Superhuman Stamina

And he does not have her stamina. Also her minions could realize how his ability works over times and start playing into it like Kenjaku did.

Elaborate

She has hundreds of km range or just hundreds of meters, its SBA, she can just use bang.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

She has hundreds of km range or just hundreds of meters, its SBA, she can just use bang.

Ok so how does she get through any of these

Reality Warping, Toon Force & Subjective Reality (Thought-based; Comedian allows Takaba to make what he considers is "funny" to become reality.)

• Attack Reflection & Power Nullification

• Damage Nullification (Whenever Takaba is "damaged" from an attack, any effect it had on him is erased as if it never even happened without needing to use Reverse Cursed Technique.)
  • Limited Invulnerability (1 Layer; Can make it so he doesn't take any damage from an attack, despite Cursed Energy being able to hurt invulnerable Cursed Spirits, though this depends on if he thinks it would be funny to happen.)

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Also I just noticed takaba is missing a lot of abilities

 

[Arkenis]

Ok so how does she get through any of these

Just keeps attacking until he can't think of anything funny anymore. Or bfrs after she's exhausted other stuff.

Edit: Also, as I said before, they can win by playing into his skits.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Just keeps attacking until he can't think of anything funny anymore. Or bfrs after she's exhausted other stuff.

It would take a really long time for him to stop thinking of new stuff, and I'm pretty sure he is willing to just kill all her devils in the same way he kills all of Kenjaku's Cursed Spirits

Also I don't think BFR would work because Takaba does have Teleportation (although its just a possibly)

 

[Arkenis]

It would take a really long time for him to stop thinking of new stuff, and I'm pretty sure he is willing to just kill all her devils in the same way he kills all of Kenjaku's Cursed Spirits

Humans≠curses. Though he could've killed Iori on his first kick so ig? Still a lot to kill.

Also I don't think BFR would work because Takaba does have Teleportation (although its just a possibly)

Probably not gonna think to use it and her bfr is interdimensional

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Probably not gonna think to use it and her bfr is interdimensional

Could he not just Reflect it or Power Null?

Also Telepathy would allow him to know what she has and work around it before she uses it

And I don't see any resistance to Empathy Manipulation on Makima's page, there's a high chance she'll get compelled to go along with his comedy instead of using a hax ability, of which only a few of would work anyways

 

[Arkenis]

Could he not just Reflect it or Power Null?

Why would he find that funny?

Also Telepathy would allow him to know what she has and work around it before she uses it

And compel her to work within it. So she'll probably figure out how to turn it against him just like Kenjaku.

And I don't see any resistance to Empathy Manipulation on Makima's page, there's a high chance she'll get compelled to go along with his comedy instead of using a hax ability, of which only a few of would work anyways

Didn't stop Kenjaku from using his curses nor did it stop him from working to beat it.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

And compel her to work within it. So she'll probably figure out how to turn it against him just like Kenjaku.


Didn't stop Kenjaku from using his curses nor did it stop him from working to beat it.

Your comparing this fight to Kenjaku's fight despite Kenjaku literally saying he's going to lose with his normal stuff

Kenjaku didn't "win" because he made Takaba run out of jokes, he "won" because he satisfied Takaba

I say "won" in parenthesis because he didn't actually win, he just made Takaba give up by satisfying his desire for comedy

I find it hard to believe Makima's stick in the mud personality would be able to satisfy Takaba

 

[Arkenis]

Your comparing this fight to Kenjaku's fight despite Kenjaku literally saying he's going to lose with his normal stuff

Kenjaku didn't "win" because he made Takaba run out of jokes, he "won" because he satisfied Takaba

I say "won" in parenthesis because he didn't actually win, he just made Takaba give up by satisfying his desire for comedy

I find it hard to believe Makima's stick in the mud personality would be able to satisfy Takaba

I say won in the same way Kenjaku won too. Nothing implies she can't just play into it. I'll wait for other opinions before voting though.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

I say won in the same way Kenjaku won too. Nothing implies she can't just play into it. I'll wait for other opinions before voting though.

tbf, Takaba prolly can't win because he won't kill her, doesn't have BFR and I don't even know what he can do while not bloodlusted

meanwhile Makima just cant do shit to him besides a few abilities, most of which she's literally never used

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Maybe they should both be bloodlusted idk, seems pretty boring rn

 

[ShionAH]

No. You can’t beat Takaba just by playing along, thats exactly how you lose actually.

Kenjaku won because he is a professional comedian, genius thats a thousand years old and was able to create a joke where TAKABA IS THE STRAIGHT MAN. Making him the butt of the joke and satisfying his love for comedy is how you beat him

Makima isn’t just far less experienced in such field but she genuinely sucks at feeling or understanding humans so it’s just absurd to claim she would be able to pull it off.

Eventually Takaba would mess Makima’s mind (since he does it through soul resonance its possible that it would work on Makima) enough to force a win, although its likely a stomp as she has no shot

 

[Tuxidoe_Redo]

G

 

[GunshyFever]

Snip

Or Makima would just find Tabaka unamusing from the start, considering that he is human and a comedian at that. She would likely just control him or read his mind from the get-go and once she figures out what he can do, she would keep him as a valuable asset in Public Safety and alter his memory about his origins. The stomp is actually in Makima's favor here.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Or Makima would just find Tabaka unamusing from the start, considering that he is human and a comedian at that. She would likely just control him or read his mind from the get-go and once she figures out what he can do, she would keep him as a valuable asset in Public Safety and alter his memory about his origins. The stomp is actually in Makima's favor here.

Innate Domain :/

 

[GunshyFever]

Makima's control is completely supernatural, that shouldn't be an issue

 

[LaserPrecision]

Makima's control is completely supernatural, that shouldn't be an issue

That makes it less likely to work. If it were biological through means like pheromones or smth it would actually work because it could enter through the nose into the brain. But if it's supernatural, she's just trying to straight up magic hax their brain.

 

[ShionAH]

Takaba’s Comedian can stop Cursed Techniques which include Mind Manipulation.

 

[GunshyFever]

That makes it less likely to work. If it were biological through means like pheromones or smth it would actually work because it could enter through the nose into the brain. But if it's supernatural, she's just trying to straight up magic hax their brain.

Makima is not attempting to grow anything inside him, which would still make control applicable. Plus her control itself has interdimensional range, so even with innate domain proposals, Makima would still be able to attack.

Takaba’s Comedian can stop Cursed Techniques which include Mind Manipulation.

Do you have any reliable examples which help him in this scenario?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Makima is not attempting to grow anything inside him, which would still make control applicable. Plus her control itself has interdimensional range, so even with innate domain proposals, Makima would still be able to attack.

It's not just for growing stuff instead of people tho :/ (Well, it currently is since the cursed energy page sucks so take that as you will).

Can you prove she can mindhax someone from interdimensional range? Controlling someone she's already controlled and or contracted is different from mind washing someone from a dimension away. A link is already established atp (Assuming ur referring to Prinz).

 

[ShionAH]

Do you have any reliable examples which help him in this scenario?

What do you mean? Its on the profile, he can make techniques that should have worked on him never ever worked on him in the first place

 

[GunshyFever]

It's not just for growing stuff instead of people tho :/ (Well, it currently is since the cursed energy page sucks so take that as you will).

Can you prove she can mindhax someone from interdimensional range? Controlling someone she's already controlled and or contracted is different from mind washing someone from a dimension away. A link is already established atp (Assuming ur referring to Prinz).

Fairs. I'll actually hold off considering I'm interested with the innate domain shenanigans.

What do you mean? Its on the profile, he can make techniques that should have worked on him never ever worked on him in the first place

Assuming you are talking about the damage manipulation, that only occurs when he is being damaged. Which is not happening in a scenario where Makima could plausibly use conquest.

 

[ShionAH]

It can stop techniques which as a power system include Mind Manipulation

 

[GunshyFever]

I don't believe any mind manip in JJK works the same as Makimas and nonetheless, you can't V.E Makimas abilities into cursed techniques, considering that Chainsaw Man does not have an energy system.

 

[Lynieryz]

[Makima FRA]

 

[Epiccheev]

Chainsaw Man does not have an energy system.

It runs on Demonwatts

 

[Tuxidoe_Redo]

O

 

[Tuxidoe_Redo]

O

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Actual Gigachad vs Goon Material.

 

[Arkansalter2]

I'd root for incon.
Takaba's CT legit just lolno's evrything Makima has.
At the same time, Makima won't die because of
1: Regen
2: Takaba's character.

I'll go with incon.

 

[Mbpoops]

Tbf would takaba even kill makima? He just wants to make people laugh

 

[Arkansalter2]

Tbf would takaba even kill makima

No. Because he doesn't.

"Takaba is a huge pacifist and will not kill his opponents."

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

No. Because he doesn't.

Incon then.

 

[Tuxidoe_Redo]

No. Because he doesn't.

U can win via incap, killing isnt necessary

 

[Thermor]

I'd root for incon.
Takaba's CT legit just lolno's evrything Makima has.
At the same time, Makima won't die because of
1: Regen
2: Takaba's character.

I'll go with incon.

Tbf would takaba even kill makima? He just wants to make people laugh

Actually if Takaba can befriend people with his mind manipulation, it can be counted as a victory. We had a Frisk vs Atreus matchup where Frisk won due to social influencing Atreus to be friends.