Most Badass Turtle in History Vs. Most Badass Turtle Today

[Poketmonsrs]

cause I still dont know the AP gap

Gerson scales to the Titan which is scaled from 16.88 ExaFoe. Bowser scales to Grand Stars, which scale to 49.70 PetaFoe. So Gerson is 339.637826962x stronger

 

[Bruhtelho]

Gerson scales to the Titan which is scaled from 16.88 ExaFoe. Bowser scales to Grand Stars, which scale to 49.70 PetaFoe. So Gerson is 339.637826962x stronger

Wrong Calc for Bower, I already pointed this out at the start of the thread, "Bowser has a calc on his profile in the Grand Star Key since they create galaxies and it that puts him at 3.7921589 zettaFOE", its why he has a 4-A and 3-C tier cause it creates galaxies.

 

[Poketmonsrs]

Wrong Calc for Bower, I already pointed this out at the start of the thread, "Bowser has a calc on his profile in the Grand Star Key since they create galaxies and it that puts him at 3.7921589 zettaFOE", its why he has a 4-A and 3-C tier cause it creates galaxies.

Oh. Then Bowser is 224.65396327x stronger then Gerson

 

[God_of_perversion]

Gerson's soul dura neg

It's a great thing Gerson has a physically dura neg

Bowser can deal with most of Gerson's danmaku by hunkering down in his shell with can no-sell

It's a really great thing Gerson has physical dura neg

He can also suck up all of Gerson's projectile

Ain't stopping his dura negs + Gerson has many attacks that can't be absorved such as his hammer stomp

or use Zone Speed slow down his perception to more easily avoid Gerson's danmaku

Anal prediction + skill stomp + teleportation + after image creation takes care of this,enemies in deltarune can also fight even while being sleepy and having their strenght drained by Ralsei

Even if Gerson tries to trap Bowser in Green Soul mode, he can reflect the wave of energy to avoid i

It's a good thing Gerson has show to be able to use his Green soul mode even without his energy wave (pure tought based activation)

Bowser can easily suck up Gerson with his much higher LS

Teleportation takes care of this

cook him with his fire (Gerson's resistance is 537.222c while Bowser's fire can harm peeps who no-sell lava which is between 700c and 1200c),

There is a on going crt to make darkness resistence outscale plasma heat so it's fine

 

[koopa3144]

It's a great thing Gerson has a physically dura neg

It's a really great thing Gerson has physical dura neg

Bowser can pretty easily reflect or avoid Dualbuster. Can Gerson even do Dualbuster on his own?

Gerson has many attacks that can't be absorved such as his hammer stomp

If he tries that while Bowser is inhaling thats just gonna get him sucked up even faster.

Anal prediction

Which he has only used to predict Guei's basic bullet pattern. It's a big stretch to say he can use his Analytical Prediction to make peeps get hit by his danmaku.

skill stomp

Bowser pretty hard clears in skill here. He has much more combat experience fighting much more versatile foes. He's able to beat master martial artists like Jinx even after he committed the party's every move to memory, and is comparable to PM, who can beat The Master and Prince Mush, who are also master martial artists.

teleportation

Iirc the only attack Gerson really spams TP for is Hitting Shell, which isn't danmaku. Bowser can also just counter it by punching the shell away, stopping it with his TK, or just by inhaling it.

after image creation takes care of this

Gerson's afterimage attacks aren't gonna do much since Bowser can just block them with his shell (especially since they're 224.65396327x weaker than it)

enemies in deltarune can also fight even while being sleepy and having their strenght drained by Ralsei

Zone Speed is Bowser slowing his own perception so everything else appears slow. He's not applying anything to Gerson.

It's a good thing Gerson has show to be able to use his Green soul mode even without his energy wave (pure tought based activation)

While true, I feel like thats kinda a stretch to say, I'd argue it's prob either just a gameplay thing or cause Susie was already hit with the energy wave Gerson, which lets Gerson put her in green soul whenever he wants afterward. But, even if it's not, not much really changes since Bowser just blocks all the spears with his shell.

Teleportation takes care of this

Bowser can instantly suck up comparable peeps in a few moments. Gerson has a much lower LS than them and will likely be sucked up instantly.

 

[ArachDusa]

It's a great thing Gerson has a physically dura neg

It's a really great thing Gerson has physical dura neg

Ain't stopping his dura negs + Gerson has many attacks that can't be absorved such as his hammer stomp

Anal prediction + skill stomp + teleportation + after image creation takes care of this,enemies in deltarune can also fight even while being sleepy and having their strenght drained by Ralsei

It's a good thing Gerson has show to be able to use his Green soul mode even without his energy wave (pure tought based activation)

Teleportation takes care of this

There is a on going crt to make darkness resistence outscale plasma heat so it's fine

Bowser can pretty easily reflect or avoid Dualbuster. Can Gerson even do Dualbuster on his own?

If he tries that while Bowser is inhaling thats just gonna get him sucked up even faster.

Which he has only used to predict Guei's basic bullet pattern. It's a big stretch to say he can use his Analytical Prediction to make peeps get hit by his danmaku.

Bowser pretty hard clears in skill here. He has much more combat experience fighting much more versatile foes. He's able to beat master martial artists like Jinx even after he committed the party's every move to memory, and is comparable to PM, who can beat The Master and Prince Mush, who are also master martial artists.

Iirc the only attack Gerson really spams TP for is Hitting Shell, which isn't danmaku. Bowser can also just counter it by punching the shell away, stopping it with his TK, or just by inhaling it.

Gerson's afterimage attacks aren't gonna do much since Bowser can just block them with his shell (especially since they're 224.65396327x weaker than it)

Zone Speed is Bowser slowing his own perception so everything else appears slow. He's not applying anything to Gerson.

While true, I feel like thats kinda a stretch to say, I'd argue it's prob either just a gameplay thing or cause Susie was already hit with the energy wave Gerson, which lets Gerson put her in green soul whenever he wants afterward. But, even if it's not, not much really changes since Bowser just blocks all the spears with his shell.

Bowser can instantly suck up comparable peeps in a few moments. Gerson has a much lower LS than them and will likely be sucked up instantly.

Should I count either of these as votes -
Also what does LS stand for

 

[Poketmonsrs]

Also what does LS stand for

Lifting Strength

 

[ArachDusa]

Bump, I guess

 

[Poketmonsrs]

Bump

 

[Poketmonsrs]

Bump