That's what I thought at first. Thank you for confirming it.
Love your explanation.
Of course! No problem buddy
Thanks! Definitely a topic I've given a lot of thought to, as I always find the "indomitable will" aspect of his character to be very intriguing to me.
Think the statement applies to enemies sonic beated in base form, so like, super eggrobo and gang
I would prefer it doesn't but I'm also not gonna act like its the most BS thing ever to argue because there at least are things that can imply its possible.
I like to see it like this:
I personally subscribe to the Mid-End version at the least and can understand why the High-End version makes sense. I don't subscribe to Infinite scaling to monsters like Solaris or Dark Gaia.
I think the most quick and effortless way to argue it is to say "Eggman states the Chaos Emeralds give unimaginable power after Shuffle, therefore Chaos Emeralds > Precioustone as a baseline, Sonic knows the correct and real way to use Chaos Emeralds and is equal to Shadow's super form, who can freely draw power from the emeralds. Super Sonic fights Perfect Chaos, Super Egg Robot, and True Area 51 boss then base Sonic fights Perfect Chaos and Eggman's later "ultimate" weapons"
Being 100% honest, the majority of people (and I'm only including Sonic fans here) on this site don't buy it but a fair amount do.
I mean, I guess?
IMO it shouldn't even be there.
Tbf doesn't the same go for tier 2 Perfect Chaos? In terms of the greater Sonic lore and scaling he'd be there, at the very least in higher interpretations of the verse. But just looking at Adventure, in a vacuum, makes Perfect Chaos like 5-B, maybe High 3-A at best if the infinite power statements are taken fully literally
I think Sonic not tearing his arm off suggests some form of relativity, as in other threads that discuss similar feats (generally crushing stuff), Chaos would need to scale somewhat relative to Sonic (in both lifting and AP) as to not make it so that he'd get instantly toppled over, the struggle in of itself kind of implies relativity, even though its extremely minor
Look below. Seeing through the glass like panels might help. The Earth is outside of the blackhole, so it's tinted darker and moves relative to the player instead of swirling in the blackhole.
I've looked frame-by-frame, from each direction, and checked back on the ones present in the CRT and the most I could find was something that vaguely looked like Earth, but seemed more like a coincidence of the spinning galaxies. And something that was more than likely just a part of mobius strip
this is technically still an external link but If you're on any other social media, you can quickly post it there in another tab and drag it over to the VSBW reply, and delete it right after. At least that's how I do it.
With 1-C specifically, it just doesn’t feel right since that’s the same tier as the strongest Super Sonic level threats that can match him at his peak. We’re basically saying basenic > peak Emeralds, and while I don’t remember it being inherently contradictory if you count the multipliers and stuff, it’s still something that feels unintentional. If Sonic had his own feats scaling him to the cosmology then I wouldn’t deny using that argument, as again I don’t think it’s contradictory unless I’m missing something, but as long as there’s only upscaling statements I don’t think I can support 1-C basenic.
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Considering it's been 20 years and Sega still haven't figured out how to properly integrate Silver's abilities into gameplay and repeatedly gets left out (despite being a "main character"), it'll likely be your grandkids playing that Whisper game.
Sonic 06 was their try
