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Is there not abilites high tier jedi only have or are they just said as early then jedi knight/master ?
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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi
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Honestly, the only difference I noticed between Padawan/Jedi Knights/Masters is the experience/optimization/efficiency in using the Force Powers.
If you take Cal Ketis, Kanan, Erza, Ahsoka, etc., you'll see that they aren't that different from the Knights and above, except for their experience using the powers, etc. That's why I didn't divide the Jedi into Padawan, Knight, and Master, since, from what I've observed, there's no difference in the number of powers they possess.
If you remember or notice any different powers that these 3 categories have, I would be happy to know.
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I mean, to be honest, we have one thing.
Luke mentions in "Secrets of the Jedi" that some Jedi Masters can do Yoda's absorption feat (Or something similar but not exactly the same?). But that's it, he doesn't cite names or examples, and he says "some," meaning not all.
It doesn't help that whenever the absorption/redirection feat that Yoda performs is mentioned, he only uses Yoda himself as an example and nobody else.
So it's so vague that I just ignore it.
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I think it looks good I think imo, though I need to keep up with SW content faster to get the whole of it
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Okay, I'll start drafting the CRT.
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Star Wars Canon: Super Mega rework of the Force page + A ton of scans
Hello Hello my friends, how are you all? I kind of promised in the last CRT that it would be the Force Spirit physiology thing. But I decided to do this first. Everyone knows the Force (canon) page, I think? Anyway, it was my first Star Wars project here on the wiki and I didn't like how it...
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If I were to create a tab later (after the Force Spirit thing) for the Nightsisters,
What would they be compared to? Untrained (but controlling their powers), Initial Jedi, or Jedi? They don't have standard Jedi/Sith training. So I'm a bit hesitant to put "they should be comparable to Jedi," I was at most thinking of Initial Jedi since those are more basic powers (like telekinesis, being guided by the Force, etc.).
But I'm not sure. Does anyone have any opinions?
What would they be compared to? Untrained (but controlling their powers), Initial Jedi, or Jedi? They don't have standard Jedi/Sith training. So I'm a bit hesitant to put "they should be comparable to Jedi," I was at most thinking of Initial Jedi since those are more basic powers (like telekinesis, being guided by the Force, etc.).
But I'm not sure. Does anyone have any opinions?
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Honestly, isn't there anyone who can help Hagane with the calculations and data? I much prefer to focus on gathering information, creating explanatory pages, etc., rather than dealing with physical statistics and scale (although I can help with that using millions of scans).
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Still busy replacing all the Legends calcs, but I guess I can help with the occasional key Canon calc after my Legends thread is finished (hopefully within a couple weeks).
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Of yours, I’m planning on using your Kenobi laser calc to replace some of the dubious ancient offsite MGLT calcs, and once it gets accepted also replace the Palpatine travel speed calc with your recalc. By the way, do you mind getting a CGM to rubber stamp that last one when you have time?
Side note: I’m also busy going through all the inverse scaling stuff and I can’t help but cringing at so much of it. Who decided to make Prime Marka Ragnos as listed below Jaden Korr?
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Regarding the Death Star and FTL lasers. (canon)
The Death Star's laser is always called a SuperLaser, so it makes sense that it's FTL.
The Death Star's laser is always called a SuperLaser, so it makes sense that it's FTL.
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Does anyone here think that Maul is more like Sisyphus or Icarus?
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They waged war against the Jedi in Legends, but I don't know about the new canon.
At the very least, Talzin and Merrin should have those abilities, in my opinion, since the former is a Force user on Sidious' level and the latter defeated a Jedi Master empowered by the dark side.
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Considering the damn thing took both Imperial and Republic space to pound town, maybe a tenth.How much of the Eternal Fleet would you guys say is on screen in this image?
Two thirds? Half? A quarter?
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I’m trying to calculate its mass, but the issue is that none of the cutscenes actually shown the entire fleet at once, always just a part of it. Rather frustrating.
Considering it was supposed to occupy the entire galaxy at once, a tenth would make sense, but based on what is on screen… considering it trails off to the top and bottom and only continues to the left I might have to lowball it as half.
I don’t suppose you know of any better clips to use to count all the ships (preferably during Vaylin’s assault on Odessen or later so I don’t have to account for losses prior to the battle)?
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Lowball it to half, sure. But, I don't recall any better shots off the top of my head.
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Nightsisters sandbox
Even while affected by a tranquilizing drug, having his vision distorted, and facing 3 invisible Nightsisters (one of them being Asajj Ventress), Dooku managed to defeat them.
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Dooku is really built different I see. Btw, since you’ve started gathering Nightsister scans, is there anything you’ve found on how their magic is different for regular force users?
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Do they use magic? An aspect of the Force that only seems to emerge on Dathomir.
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I finished the sandbox, what do you think? (I also added a note in case you're wondering why most of the Nightsisters don't use magic directly in combat like Merrin)
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I updated the sandbox with a rework of Mother Talzin's P&A.
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It's called magic at least. It's not limited to Dathomir
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On which other planet does Magicks originate?
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Star Wars Canon: Nightsisters and Mother Talzin
Hello While I wait for the Force page to change its name and a few other things from my previous CRT, I'll go ahead and make this CRT to save time. Basically, the Nightsisters category will be incorporated into the Force page (soon to be renamed Force Manipulation). Furthermore, I completely...
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On the Ahsoka show it’s revealed Dathomirians were originally extragalactic. We know they had it before they arrived on Dathomir because their original kingdom was called Witch Kingdom of the Dathmiri. Additionally the Great Mothers who remained in the other galaxy, had access to magic. They were able to empower one of the Ahsoka villains by having her undergo the same ritual Nightsisters use for their inductees, so it’s clearly the same power.
Most of the earlier statements about Dathomir remain mostly true like it being used for magic ichor, strength, & energy. Dathomir was likely chosen for its conductivity to their dark magic, rather than the source. We’ve already seen that some planets can be heavily interconnected with the force like Dagobah. So it’s now treated as an amplification of their power rather than its source.
Also, we know other groups exist that use force magic, albeit it seems very rare.
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Lol, the only expansions into force magic have been in mostly mid shows which is funny and sad. You also have the Acolyte lmao. At least we got something good out of the general shitshow
Though I actually think it might be possible that Abeloth comes back in some form now tbh. Even if it’s not as a major antagonist. Because I found a lot more random mentions of the Ones than I expected while reading about the Nightsisters. It was already partially canonical that they worshipped the Ones before Ahsoka got released for example.
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You see this is why my specialty is Old Republic, I don't have to deal with C R I N G E shows and subpar games!
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I think it would be interesting to hear more about other force deities, because we have confirmation at least some are real.
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While I was looking for content, I went to those RPGs to see if there was anything interesting about the Nightsisters and I found some interesting things.
There's the Force Power Influence that manipulates emotions. It would be really cool to use, but it's kind of problematic to use the FFG RPGs. Besides all the Legends content after 2014, and others that mix the two types of content.
I always try to only pick content that explains what's already in the canon or that doesn't contradict anything. But there are some more complicated things.
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Furthermore, the NPCs' Force Powers are somewhat inconsistent.
Old Ben has "Heal," despite it being a rare Force Power (in canon) that I think he never used. None of Vader's character sheets have the Force Power Forsee (I think that's the name. It's the Force Power for precognition), even though he's the character who demonstrates it the most in canon. Also, there's a character sheet for Maul without the Force Power Move (telekinesis).
It's funny that Darth Sidious's character sheet is huge and full of Force Powers, but he doesn't have Bind or Force Choke listed (Bind is the basic form of Choke, and Choke is the upgrade of Bind).
The game has this message here:
In other words, NPCs aren't limited by that list, etc., like the GM can include more.
But I think it would be a huge exaggeration to use that argument to add any force power since technically the GM can make an NPC have any of them, because, for example, there's also the existence of Heal, which isn't something everyone has.
What do you personally think about this?
There's the Force Power Influence that manipulates emotions. It would be really cool to use, but it's kind of problematic to use the FFG RPGs. Besides all the Legends content after 2014, and others that mix the two types of content.
I always try to only pick content that explains what's already in the canon or that doesn't contradict anything. But there are some more complicated things.
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Furthermore, the NPCs' Force Powers are somewhat inconsistent.
Old Ben has "Heal," despite it being a rare Force Power (in canon) that I think he never used. None of Vader's character sheets have the Force Power Forsee (I think that's the name. It's the Force Power for precognition), even though he's the character who demonstrates it the most in canon. Also, there's a character sheet for Maul without the Force Power Move (telekinesis).
It's funny that Darth Sidious's character sheet is huge and full of Force Powers, but he doesn't have Bind or Force Choke listed (Bind is the basic form of Choke, and Choke is the upgrade of Bind).
The game has this message here:
In other words, NPCs aren't limited by that list, etc., like the GM can include more.
But I think it would be a huge exaggeration to use that argument to add any force power since technically the GM can make an NPC have any of them, because, for example, there's also the existence of Heal, which isn't something everyone has.
What do you personally think about this?
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