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After the scans are done, it’s definitely something I wouldn’t mind taking a swing at, cause we’ve got more than just that feat for the base cast.
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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TheStinkeer
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Honestly? Super Sonic being easy to scale in comparison to the base cast. Like there's still some annoying stuff you gotta deal with but in comparison to base scaling where it feels like even just a FTL Base Sonic is too much to ask for, it's smooth sailing
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I feel like Sonic NOT being plain immeasurable speed on this website feels like the most gatekeepy spite-scaling ever. It feels like it's there to have Sonic be as restricted as possible while dancing around this blatant scaling. Never have I seen any statements of the White Space augmenting his speed or that even being an implication for that matter. In BOTH versions of Gens, Sonic's speed is being emphasized as being able to traverse time. It either IS or ISN'T immeasurable speed, not this weird fancy-dancy stuff where it's "oh well Sonic's speed was amped somehow yeah that's the reason why he's that fast in this specific game of Sonic LITERALLY using his speed to restore time". Otherwise, it may as well not even be a tier and moreso an ability. I personally find Sonic NOT being immeasurable based off of statements and scaling that is as clear as day to be a next level form of delusion and ignorance, tbh.
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Agreed, and I feel like it’s something that needs to be addressed at some point.
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Hell, technically wasnt Sonic CD's time travel also due to Sonic's speed alone? at just lightspeed but still lol
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IIRC that was the lightspeed + the sing posts in little planet
TheStinkeer
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Yeah, it's the combination of Sonic's light speed and the signs that time travel becomes possible in CD. The CD manual states the same and emphasizes the use of the signs
Still kinda sucks no other manual keeps the light speed statement tho, like yeah we got feats in game and the mega collection statement but it's nice having something so blatant
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Darn, my memory failed me. So this is what it feels like to be Shadow :V
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"Where's that DAMN fourth place trophy?"
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I know that the removal of things from Sonic Runners hasn't been done yet (Omegabronic said he would take care of the things related to Runners)
But I just checked Sticks' page, and it basically depends on Runner.
That's a problem
But I just checked Sticks' page, and it basically depends on Runner.
That's a problem
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I am extremely sorry... i got caught up in a lot of stuff, and i ended up forgetting this, i didn't meant to leave it open like this
After the IMGUR stuff is solved we can solve this too
iirc the runners stuff was being removed? Def heard some people talking about it,
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Don't worry, it's understandable.
Let me fill you in.
In short, on the cosmology page, we accept Sonic Runners as its own universe. You mentioned removing it directly from even that, but that's not important right now.
The fact that the profile presented is from the main continuity Stick, and since we now accept that Runners is another universe, all the information from Runners should disappear.
Honestly, my thought was simply to delete the page or leave it in a sandbox so it could be repaired after the Imgur thing is resolved. Because :
- Once you remove Runners, the only other source of their AP is a link to Sonic Comic: Special Stage, which simply doesn't work.
- I think half of its optional equipment also comes from Runners, or is that just what the rest of the verse has? (I think)
- And skills don't have cites of where they come from.
- And I don't think any of the links to Sonic Channel seem to be working.
Honestly, I think she was also affected by the Imgur issue, so leaving her in a sandbox for the time being, until someone inevitably overhauls her profile (which is the bare minimum she needs), might alleviate the problem a bit for everyone else.
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When you put it that way...
Not to mention but actual traversing through time feats rather than dimensional travel
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She shouldn't even have a page, you might as well try to delete it ngl. She barely appeared in the game-verse or done anything.
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There's smth that has been bugging me for a while.
In order to affect a character that has an enhanced AE1, as their verse shows an "order of aspects", do you need an enhanced NPI/CM1 or a higher-dimensional AP can do the trick?
In order to affect a character that has an enhanced AE1, as their verse shows an "order of aspects", do you need an enhanced NPI/CM1 or a higher-dimensional AP can do the trick?
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I thought of something that's a bit funny while wondering about Cell vs Metal Sonic. Okay so I was thinking over the validity of filler arc scaling for Dragon Ball in particular for the feat of Goku and Pikkon crossing the afterlife to get to Hell and then I thought of how similar that feat is to Lumina crossing several dream worlds in Sonic Shuffle in scope even if absolutely nobody uses that for Sonic speed scaling.
But then out of nowhere came the thought. Is Sonic Shuffle just unironically the Sonic equivalent to Dragon Ball filler, except it's canon despite having next to no relevance? I don't know I just thought that is a kind of funny comparison because we don't really think of Sonic having "filler" even though in practice some games might as well be filler.
But then out of nowhere came the thought. Is Sonic Shuffle just unironically the Sonic equivalent to Dragon Ball filler, except it's canon despite having next to no relevance? I don't know I just thought that is a kind of funny comparison because we don't really think of Sonic having "filler" even though in practice some games might as well be filler.
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We call those spin-off titles.
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And out of nowhere, it becomes the pillar of Sonic's cosmology
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It depends on the potency of the AE I believe, but I believe sometimes higher-dimensional AP wouldn't work by default unless the character could like... bust the entire cosmology they're both inhabiting. Some beings with Abstract Existence might still be fine after, depending on their abstraction and whatnot.
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Yeah exactly we don't think of Sonic as having "filler" even though it basically does have that in practice. Although I asked about Sonic Shuffle specifically because does it not feel like filler in a way that most other spin-offs just don't? Like using a two part checklist for a random game to illustrate my point.
Sonic Battle
Is mentioned implicitly or explicitly in future material.
️(Yes Shadow Dark Beginnings and also Sonic Advance 3.)
Has plot relevance outside of itself.
️(Emerl returns in Shadow Dark Beginnings and is also part of project shadows lore. Not a lot but relevance is there.)
So because of those reasons Sonic Battle doesn't necessarily feel like "filler" but then when you apply a similar checklist to Sonic Shuffle it just doesn't check off unless you are really generous with Ariem claiming to have a creator in Sonic Dream Team which makes it feel more like filler than most other Sonic spin-offs.
Lol yeah.And out of nowhere, it becomes the pillar of Sonic's cosmology
On that note it would be kind of hilarious if Death Battle downplayed all conventional scaling for Metal Sonic for no reason, but then out of absolutely nowhere pulled Sonic Shuffle scaling out to make Metal Sonic stomp even though Metal Sonic already wins with the aforementioned conventional scaling.
I know that won't ever happen but the mental image of Death Battle relentlessly downplaying Metal Sonic for absolutely no reason only to casually pull out universal or higher Sonic Shuffle scaling at the last minute to give Metal Sonic the win anyways is so stupid it's funny.
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Thank you. I asked because I feel like Game Super Forms are in a strange situation: either you stomp them or they stomp you.
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My thread is complete and I've posted it,
I apologize in advance
Sonic the Hedgehog: The Prime World multi-universe size problem (and downgrade)
Hello! This should be fast (probably no) Basically, what we're going to discuss is the idea that the main universe is the size of several universes. (I wanted to wait until I finished seen Sonic Prime, but someone seems to be advocating for removing the infinite universe size, which...
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Dude... we said we already had our hands full with the IMGUR problem and broken links... why are you giving even MORE stuff to worry about instead of WAITING?... that is VERY inconsiderate of youMy thread is complete and I've posted it,
I apologize in advance
Sonic the Hedgehog: The Prime World multi-universe size problem (and downgrade)
Hello! This should be fast (probably no) Basically, what we're going to discuss is the idea that the main universe is the size of several universes. (I wanted to wait until I finished seen Sonic Prime, but someone seems to be advocating for removing the infinite universe size, which...vsbattles.com
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Oh. Well that makes three major CRTs at once.My thread is complete and I've posted it,
I apologize in advance
Sonic the Hedgehog: The Prime World multi-universe size problem (and downgrade)
Hello! This should be fast (probably no) Basically, what we're going to discuss is the idea that the main universe is the size of several universes. (I wanted to wait until I finished seen Sonic Prime, but someone seems to be advocating for removing the infinite universe size, which...
Don't know if any of them will be applied but to anyone who'd know how do I get permission to help edit pages because I'd like to pitch in if any of the CRTs are applied?
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1. I warned everyone that its was coming (I also replied to myself, giving you direct access to the warning).
2. Mine can wait. Basically, I did it because if the one about eliminating the infinite size of the universe successs, they'll have to redo the calcs, and then if I did mine after, the calculations would have to be redone twice.
In short, I brought it up so that the people doing the calculations wouldn't have to do double the work, But all of you can ignore mine until the infinitely sized one is finished.
Meanwhile, I'll try to help with the scans problem.
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Not the point... You are still being inconsiderate with the amount of work we are still going through, given even MORE to do when we already didn't liked the current revisions doing just that IS factually inconsiderate... sorry to say, that this is very annoying
If it could... you would have actually waited to post it... you DIDN'T wait, that's the problem
So instead you gave us like, 10x the work to double edit every page in the verse? come on now, you should have known better, why did you think we were SPECIFICALLY ASKING for people to NOT do any major revisions until the IMGUR problem was done with?
No we can't... as it is posted and staff then go there and vote and other users also, who could also start editting pages and stuff... if you said before what the CRT was about I could have talked with you earlier and organized things better... but you didn't, you just said "a thread" which can encompass a lot of minor stuff and whatnot... I am not angry, just a little annoyed, I don't mean to sound aggressive or anything so i apologize if i came out like that
Appreciated
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Jokes aside, I'll at least give you points for warning us beforehand.
You wouldn't mind putting a pin in your CRT for now, right? Obviously I'm not saying let it die, and obviously you should engage with people who comment, but at least cut us a little slack in dealing with the other 2 CRTs fas well? Seem fair? @Sparkive
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Again... sorry if i sounded aggressive (Sometimes i sound like that even when i don't want to), I really don't hold it against you, was talking more about the situation than anything
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Okay but really is there a process for this or is it just ask a staff member to unlock the page, use source editing to adjust the ratings to their new values and then report that you changed the page? Or are normal users not allowed to do that even with permission? I genuinely don't know but I do mean it when I say I'd like to pitch in if possible assuming any of the CRTs are accepted of course.
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what edit work? I would do the resulting edit of this CTR myself, considering that it mostly involves changing one number in one part of the profiles, and I spent all of yesterday and part of today checking each page to make sure of that and not to lose anything. In the worst case scenario, the most you would have to do would be change a phrase in the cosmology blog, and Shake would have to change some numbers from 12 to 4.
I won't reveal who it is, because it would apparently get them in trouble with you, but I contacted another user to get their opinion on my argument, to make sure I wasn't just wasting people's time, but that there was a real reason to start the thread.
Ok
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I think i overreacted a little, sorry, we good?
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Yeah
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The thread if another CRT dropped today.
- Anyways this will be the last time I ask because silence is it's own awnser but do I need to do anything specific to be able to help with applying CRTs if any of them are accepted and if so what because I'd like to help edit pages?
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Time to make the most minor CRT
The thread if another CRT dropped today.
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does anyone else find it a bit weird that current superman is only on the same level as base sonic in terms of AP and tier?
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its a bit silly no? i love DC but I'm not very knowledgeable about his scaling, but isn't there a LOT of 1-A stuff for him?
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The thing you need to understand about Superman is him being 1-A is illegal. Was a controversy a few years back where a lot of power abuse happened. So yeah, anything like that is vehemently opposed with enough copium supplies to kill a herd of elephants.
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so basically since someone was pushing agenda a few years ago people just ignore that type of scaling for comics characters? or is it a thing exclusive to supes(since Wally and Barry don't have those limits)?
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