Marvel abilities addition

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[Apex_Predator_GX]

This thread deserves more attention.

 

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[Eseseso]

Will check it out later

 

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[Eseseso]

Looking over it, most of it seems fine except for the layers, for it to be layered resistances/hax, it has to involve a hax that overcomes someone else's resistance in a non-quantifiable way.

I also don't really agree with Reed being a low-tier sorcerer since he literally says in the scan when he's fighting Doom that he's using the power of science (the opposing concept against magic) and that it's "Sorcerer Supreme [Doom] vs Scientist Supreme [himself]". The rest of the stuff for Reed is fine.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Looking over it, most of it seems fine except for the layers, for it to be layered resistances/hax, it has to involve a hax that overcomes someone else's resistance in a non-quantifiable way.

fair point, can I still note on their profiles that xemnu’s mind manipulation can affect doctor strange and that hulk is resistant to xemnu’s mind manipulation to show how potent xemnu’s mind manipulation is and how good hulk’s resistance to mind manipulation is, also isn’t immortality type 1 non quantifiable so it can still be layered

Edit: also isn’t corruption non quantifiable

I also don't really agree with Reed being a low-tier sorcerer since he literally says in the scan when he's fighting Doom that he's using the power of science (the opposing concept against magic) and that it's "Sorcerer Supreme [Doom] vs Scientist Supreme [himself]".

I forgot to include This in there, anyways can it be listed as possibly magic since reed said he was using science but doom said he was using spells that doom invented while fighting dormammu

 

[Eseseso]

fair point, can I still note on their profiles that xemnu can mind control doctor strange and that hulk is resistant to xemnu’s telepathy to show how potent xemnu’s telepathy is and how good hulk’s resistance to telepathy is,

If you list the scans for that then it can count as 1 layer of resistance.

also isn’t immortality type 1 non quantifiable so it can still be layered

Only if he resists some sort of age hax that would kill someone with normal Type 1 immortality

I forgot to include This in there, anyways can it be listed as possibly magic since reed said he was using science but doom said he was using spells that doom invented while fighting dormammu

The scan you linked doesn't state him using spells. Doom does note that Strange went to the Astral Dimension so it would be dimensional travel

 

[Rgerdeena]

If you list the scans for that then it can count as 1 layer of resistance.

They’re in the OP

Only if he resists some sort of age hax that would kill someone with normal Type 1 immortality

Okay

Now that I think about it could that be used for layered type 5 since the literal concept of death said he can’t die which would mean that he’s not bound by her and it would be layered since death can kill beings with type 5 immortality

The scan you linked doesn't state him using spells. Doom does note that Strange went to the Astral Dimension so it would be dimensional travel

Gah, accidentally clicked the wrong page in my earlier comment how did I manage to fail to include it twice lol, Here it is, also I purposefully excluded dimensional travel because a page later doom basically banned reed from the astral plane

 

[Eseseso]

They’re in the OP

Okay

Now that I think about it could that be used for layered type 5 since the literal concept of death said he can’t die which would mean that he’s not bound by her and it would be layered since death can kill beings with type 5 immortality

Not sure about Layered Type 5 but it could be layered resistance

Gah, accidentally clicked the wrong page in my earlier comment how did I manage to fail to include it twice lol,

I've done the same thing lol

Here it is,

While I can see your argument, Doom seems to refer more to the techniques themselves, which are Reed copying his spells through the use of science.

Honestly good for Reed, while I love Marvel magic it's about time Marvel science, the literal opposing concept, got some respect

also I purposefully excluded dimensional travel because a page later doom basically banned reed from the astral plane

Oh yeah (though since Doom died it might have done away, like how his ban on Dormammu entering Earth's dimension stopped once he stepped down and died)

 

[Rgerdeena]

Not sure about Layered Type 5 but it could be layered resistance

The definition of type 5 is “Characters who exist unbound by conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed” if death herself says that a being can’t die that would mean they are by definition not bound by death and hulk doesn’t exist since he’s a fictional character so he automatically gets type 5 lol, also I agree that death could have layered death manipulation and subsequently hulk would have resistance to layered death manipulation

While I can see your argument, Doom seems to refer more to the techniques themselves, which are Reed copying his spells through the use of science.

Fair point

 

[Entity]

Doesn't Hulk already have resistance to death manipulation? He did that in the 80s

 

[Rgerdeena]

Doesn't Hulk already have resistance to death manipulation? He did that in the 80s

It’s not on his profile

 

[Entity]

It’s not on his profile

it happens in the issues 310 and 311

 

[Rgerdeena]

it happens in the issues 310 and 311

Doesn’t it say hulk died and then Bruce banner took hulk’s place, that particular example seems more like weird immortality type 4(likely the work of the green door) then resistance to death manipulation

 

[Eseseso]

Doesn’t it say hulk died and then Bruce banner took hulk’s place, that particular example seems more like weird immortality type 4(likely the work of the green door) then resistance to death manipulation

Btw I looked at OWUD #8 and Doom actually does say that Reed is attempting to combine science and sorcery and that he can magically merge multiple energies into Stormbreaker, so I think Lower level sorcerer should work just fine.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Btw I looked at OWUD #8 and Doom actually does say that Reed is attempting to combine science and sorcery and that he can magically merge multiple energies into Stormbreaker, so I think Lower level sorcerer should work just fine.

I’ll have to check the comic since the link say I’ve been blocked from that website and doesn’t say why

 

[Eseseso]

I’ll have to check the comic since the link say I’ve been blocked from that website and doesn’t say why

Here ya go

 

[Rgerdeena]

Here ya go

Thanks that saves me some time

overall it seems consistent that he was using a mix of science and magic

 

[Entity]

Doesn’t it say hulk died and then Bruce banner took hulk’s place, that particular example seems more like weird immortality type 4(likely the work of the green door) then resistance to death manipulation

His id "dies", so Hulk's persona is suppressed temporarily and Banner's emerges, then Banner transforms again in the Hulk, so he never truly died and the green door did not exist in 80s

 

[Rgerdeena]

His id "dies", so Hulk's persona is suppressed temporarily and Banner's emerges, then Banner transforms again in the Hulk, so he never truly died and the green door did not exist in 80s

You can die and be alive again later, that is the literal definition of type 4, and out of universe the green door hadn’t been invented yet in universe the green door had always been a thing so while that author probably didn’t intend for it too be the green door it still probably was the green door just bringing banner back after hulk died

 

[Entity]

You can die and be alive again later, that is the literal definition of type 4, and out of universe the green door hadn’t been invented yet in universe the green door had always been a thing so while that author probably didn’t intend for it too be the green door it still probably was the green door just bringing banner back after hulk died

In the scan that shows all the previous deaths of Banner in Immortal Hulk, this death is not shown. Hulk did not really die there, his ID was just suppressed and thus Banner emerged again, then transformed again into Hulk, while others just died. It is an unconventional resistance to death manipulation

 

[Rgerdeena]

In the scan that shows all the previous deaths of Banner in Immortal Hulk, this death is not shown. Hulk did not really die there, his ID was just suppressed and thus Banner emerged again, then transformed again into Hulk, while others just died. It is an unconventional resistance to death manipulation

At this point the disagreement is more about how we each interpreted what happened then anything that can be proved to the other so agree to disagree, if anyone else agrees with you then I’ll add it as further support for resistance to death manipulation

 

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[Ultimate-Rex1]

Bro, pls make explanation for why they should be get this abilities. For avoid asking about context in this scan

 

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Bro, pls make explanation for why they should be get this abilities. For avoid asking about context in this scan

The reason they get the abilities is fairly self explanatory for the most part, also I fail to see how explaining why they get the abilities addresses the context, me saying which comic they happened in is for the context

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

The reason they get the abilities is fairly self explanatory for the most part,

There many staffs would ask about context, to determine if it is a right or wrong ability,
For example:
Wanda can make sinking a city in the sea and turning it into a sea city

You know it's manipulate water as you know context, but another person don't know about context, and he think this is reality warping

also I fail to see how explaining why they get the abilities addresses the context, me saying which comic they happened in is for the context

I mean try to explain it, like this:

Self-Biological Manipulation & Body Control (Can manipulate his biological, for change his body to any shape like Horse)