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Oke, a thread at the end of the first month of new year, i'm dying, literally and metaphorically, anyway
Credit to @Killerdrone123 @ProfectusInfinity and some others
In this thread I would explain why neutral space in Dragon Ball would qualify for Low 1-C but first let me explain to you what does parallelism means
Parallelism
To properly discuss the Neutral Space, we first need to clarify what parallelism entails in a dimensional context.
In geometry, two objects are considered parallel if they can be extended infinitely without ever intersecting. However, this property depends on the dimensional framework they exist within.
In 1-D space, two line segments cannot be parallel if they occupy the same axis; extending them guarantees intersection.
In 2-D space, lines can be parallel because they are displaced along a second axis.
In 3-D space, planes can be parallel only if they are displaced along a third spatial axis.
Generalizing this, entire 4-D spacetimes cannot be truly parallel unless they are displaced along an additional spatial dimension.
Thus, if multiple spacetime continuums exist such that they never intersect or overlap regardless of expansion, they must be embedded within a higher-dimensional axis specifically, a space with at least one additional spatial axis beyond standard spacetime.
The Neutral Space in Dragon Ball
Actually we already have this discussion in my previous thread, and it was accepted, but for a clear explanation in case anyone is confuse, let's get back to it
In Dragon Ball, there exists a construct known as Neutral Space, where the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 tournament took place.
Now, Neutral Space is a construct that contains all 12 Macrocosms of the Dragon Ball multiverse in such a way that these macrocosms do not touch or physically interact with one another. It has also been explicitly referred to as a “different space between the universes", meaning it is a space that separate universe
As seen in the images above, both universes appear to be separated by Neutral Space and are positioned parallel to each other. Furthermore, Goku and the others were literally present within this space when Super Shenron was summoned. This clearly indicates that the universes are not directly connected to one another but are instead separated by Neutral Space. Neutral Space also appears to contain stars and galaxies, suggesting that it functions as a realm or space of its own rather than being a mere void.
https://imgur.com/tPttLT5
https://imgur.com/a/llJ8hp7
In order for Neutral Space to contain these 4-dimensional macrocosms—which are parallel to each other and do not interact regardless of expansion—it would require displacement along a higher-dimensional axis, namely an additional spatial dimension beyond the standard three. This would ensure that no matter how far these macrocosms extend, they would never intersect or overlap.
Additionally, Neutral Space should be at least 2-C or larger in scale, as it is capable of containing 12 separate 4-dimensional macrocosms, each with its own independent time dimension.
Based on tiering logic, this would place Neutral Space at 5-dimensional (5D). However, it would not qualify as Low 1-C, as that would require proof that this higher spatial axis has significant extent. That said, there may be alternative arguments that could establish such significance and potentially justify a Low 1-C tier
Time Axis of Neutral Space
Now, as I explained above, Neutral Space is 5D, with a size of at least 2-C or possibly higher something that is already accepted and mentioned in the cosmology blog of DB.
During the U7 vs U6 tournament arc, Hit is shown using his technique Time-Skip within the Neutral Zone. This technique explicitly allows Hit to move into the future, effectively skipping forward in time. Now some might confuse it with the ability Hit later displayed in his fight with Goku later on but it was stated by Vados that in order for Hit to use his dimensional creating he needs to store time that he skip and it is an ability he learned later on - something that even Hit mentions himself that he wasn't using time skip when he was fighting Goku.The successful use of Time-Skip in Neutral Space demonstrates that this realm does not lack time altogether; rather, it possesses its own temporal framework. Consequently, Neutral Space must have an independent time axis, separate from and not governed by the temporal flow of the twelve macrocosms. Neutral zone having its own independent Time Axis was already accepted in this thread
This independent axis would generate an uncountably infinite number of snapshots of this 5D space, making it significant enough to qualify as Low 1-C. Consequently, the entirety of Neutral Space would scale to Low 1-C.
To summarize, Neutral Space is a realm that contains and separates multiple 4D macrocosms, which establishes it as 5D. Additionally, it has its own independent time axis, resulting in an uncountably infinite set of 5D snapshots. This combination is sufficient to classify Neutral Space as Low 1-C.
Now, as it is already accepted that DB cosmology has a hypertimeline overarching the entire multiverse, the multiverse/Neutral Space would therefore be Low 1-C as a whole. This hypertimeline would generate an uncountably infinite number of snapshots of this Low 1-C structure, effectively making it 6D / 1-C overall.
Scaling
Anyone who affect the timeline will get 1-C rating
Vote:
Agree: Qawsedf234 Reiner04 DarkDragonMedeus
Neutral: LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Credit to @Killerdrone123 @ProfectusInfinity and some others
In this thread I would explain why neutral space in Dragon Ball would qualify for Low 1-C but first let me explain to you what does parallelism means
Parallelism
To properly discuss the Neutral Space, we first need to clarify what parallelism entails in a dimensional context.
In geometry, two objects are considered parallel if they can be extended infinitely without ever intersecting. However, this property depends on the dimensional framework they exist within.
In 1-D space, two line segments cannot be parallel if they occupy the same axis; extending them guarantees intersection.
In 2-D space, lines can be parallel because they are displaced along a second axis.
In 3-D space, planes can be parallel only if they are displaced along a third spatial axis.
Generalizing this, entire 4-D spacetimes cannot be truly parallel unless they are displaced along an additional spatial dimension.
Thus, if multiple spacetime continuums exist such that they never intersect or overlap regardless of expansion, they must be embedded within a higher-dimensional axis specifically, a space with at least one additional spatial axis beyond standard spacetime.
The Neutral Space in Dragon Ball
Actually we already have this discussion in my previous thread, and it was accepted, but for a clear explanation in case anyone is confuse, let's get back to it
In Dragon Ball, there exists a construct known as Neutral Space, where the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 tournament took place.
Now, Neutral Space is a construct that contains all 12 Macrocosms of the Dragon Ball multiverse in such a way that these macrocosms do not touch or physically interact with one another. It has also been explicitly referred to as a “different space between the universes", meaning it is a space that separate universe
As seen in the images above, both universes appear to be separated by Neutral Space and are positioned parallel to each other. Furthermore, Goku and the others were literally present within this space when Super Shenron was summoned. This clearly indicates that the universes are not directly connected to one another but are instead separated by Neutral Space. Neutral Space also appears to contain stars and galaxies, suggesting that it functions as a realm or space of its own rather than being a mere void.
https://imgur.com/tPttLT5
https://imgur.com/a/llJ8hp7
In order for Neutral Space to contain these 4-dimensional macrocosms—which are parallel to each other and do not interact regardless of expansion—it would require displacement along a higher-dimensional axis, namely an additional spatial dimension beyond the standard three. This would ensure that no matter how far these macrocosms extend, they would never intersect or overlap.
Additionally, Neutral Space should be at least 2-C or larger in scale, as it is capable of containing 12 separate 4-dimensional macrocosms, each with its own independent time dimension.
Based on tiering logic, this would place Neutral Space at 5-dimensional (5D). However, it would not qualify as Low 1-C, as that would require proof that this higher spatial axis has significant extent. That said, there may be alternative arguments that could establish such significance and potentially justify a Low 1-C tier
Time Axis of Neutral Space
Now, as I explained above, Neutral Space is 5D, with a size of at least 2-C or possibly higher something that is already accepted and mentioned in the cosmology blog of DB.
During the U7 vs U6 tournament arc, Hit is shown using his technique Time-Skip within the Neutral Zone. This technique explicitly allows Hit to move into the future, effectively skipping forward in time. Now some might confuse it with the ability Hit later displayed in his fight with Goku later on but it was stated by Vados that in order for Hit to use his dimensional creating he needs to store time that he skip and it is an ability he learned later on - something that even Hit mentions himself that he wasn't using time skip when he was fighting Goku.The successful use of Time-Skip in Neutral Space demonstrates that this realm does not lack time altogether; rather, it possesses its own temporal framework. Consequently, Neutral Space must have an independent time axis, separate from and not governed by the temporal flow of the twelve macrocosms. Neutral zone having its own independent Time Axis was already accepted in this thread
This independent axis would generate an uncountably infinite number of snapshots of this 5D space, making it significant enough to qualify as Low 1-C. Consequently, the entirety of Neutral Space would scale to Low 1-C.
To summarize, Neutral Space is a realm that contains and separates multiple 4D macrocosms, which establishes it as 5D. Additionally, it has its own independent time axis, resulting in an uncountably infinite set of 5D snapshots. This combination is sufficient to classify Neutral Space as Low 1-C.
Now, as it is already accepted that DB cosmology has a hypertimeline overarching the entire multiverse, the multiverse/Neutral Space would therefore be Low 1-C as a whole. This hypertimeline would generate an uncountably infinite number of snapshots of this Low 1-C structure, effectively making it 6D / 1-C overall.
Scaling
Anyone who affect the timeline will get 1-C rating
- Zeno, Infinite Zamasu eventually rating, Game characters
- Arale with her Plot hax
- Zeno, Angel's haxes and most Major Game's characters
- Time Ring, Time Machine
- No one
- Kai with their Kai Kai can get to Zeno's Palace which exists within this Space so they get this rating. Angels too, since they have similar capabilities. Super Shenron DBS also gets this as well.
- All characters who scale to 2 GoDs fighting (i.e., everyone who scales to 6 universes). 2 GoDs fighting would cause the destruction of their respective universes, meaning the destruction crosses the Neutral Space between universes.
Vote:
Agree: Qawsedf234 Reiner04 DarkDragonMedeus
Neutral: LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
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