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(Accepted)-[CRT] Lloyd de Saloum (Tensei Shitara Dai Nana Ouji Dattanode) - Tier Upgrade

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Hello everyone, this is my first CRT. Please excuse any terminology errors or typos, as I am still getting used to the format. I kindly ask everyone to keep the discussion civil and avoid any toxic behavior or hate speech.

Without further ado, let’s get straight into the content. Since the previous thread for this series has become inactive, and the original author, @K'rimuru , might be busy, I have decided to create this new CRT to continue the proposal.

Purpose: This CRT is intended to propose a Tier upgrade for Lloyd de Saloum from the series "Tensei Shitara Dai Nana Ouji Dattanode".

I have compiled all the relevant data, feats, and justifications in my Sandbox profile linked below:
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LadyVeldanava/Lloyd Planet level

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Summary of the Revision:
Tier Upgrade: Proposing a significant upgrade to Lloyd's current Tier based on new feats/calculations.

New Abilities & Hax: Adding several new abilities and hax that were previously missing or recently revealed.

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To ensure a smooth conclusion, I’ve provided these options for the final rating. Which one do everyone think is the most appropriate?

Option 1: Possibly 5-B

Option 2: At least High 6-A, possibly far higher

Option 3: At least High 6-A, possibly 5-B (Accepted)

Option 4: 5-B

Lloyd magic could destroy the world, along with humanity
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Votes

Agree : @Mido02 (Option 4) , @HUBN_999 (Option 4), @LoudestProcedure (Option 4), @Celestial_Pegasus (Admin) (Option 3), @LephyrTheRevanchist (Admin) (Option 3 Same as @Celestial_Pegasus)

Neutral :

Disagree :
 
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As op as this dude he really has big weakness that will work against him in next debates

Also why 9-B in the first key ? I'm pretty sure he showed feats that is beyond that like destroying the atmosphere for example
 
Mido02 said:
As op as this dude he really has big weakness that will work against him in next debates

Also why 9-B in the first key ? I'm pretty sure he showed feats that is beyond that like destroying the atmosphere for example
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Sorry, I'm having trouble finding the feat. Please hold on a moment.
 
LadyVeldanava said:
Exactly, someone has already calculated it.
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I see good it seems you guys at least prepared this honestly this feat is the most flashy one in season 1 that comes to my mind so I don't know if there's other feats that is as powerful or even more powerful than it in season 1
 
Mido02 said:
I see good it seems you guys at least prepared this honestly this feat is the most flashy one in season 1 that comes to my mind so I don't know if there's other feats that is as powerful or even more powerful than it in season 1
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Is there anything else I need to adjust?
 
I disagree with light speed, even if it's being proposed just as possibly. Needs more proof to pass our standards.

Looking over the rest, many scans show them name dropping spells and effects, but don't actually show the effects being done (for example, the EE just had the character explaining what the sphere does). I'd prefer if these were included among the scans, to gauge the potential limits of the abilities.

Edit: Actually, an even easier way to add this is through a Techniques section in the profile. Then you can add more details without bloating the powers and abilities section. For example, for the Clay clones; are they true clones (as in, they share the powers of the original) or do they just look like the character? You can also specify Control Magic strictly copies martial arts techniques through the body puppetry effect of his own body, stuff like that.
 
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LephyrTheRevanchist said:
I disagree with light speed, even if it's being proposed just as possibly. Needs more proof to pass our standards.

Looking over the rest, many scans show them name dropping spells and effects, but don't actually show the effects being done (for example, the EE just had the character explaining what the sphere does). I'd prefer if these were included among the scans, to gauge the potential limits of the abilities.

Edit: Actually, an even easier way to add this is through a Techniques section in the profile. Then you can add more details without bloating the powers and abilities section. For example, for the Clay clones; are they true clones (as in, they share the powers of the original) or do they just look like the character? You can also specify Control Magic strictly copies martial arts techniques through the body puppetry effect of his own body, stuff like that.
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I have removed the light speed stats as suggested. Regarding the destructive capability, since there are no direct feats shown yet but another character explicitly stated that he can destroy the world, would it be acceptable to list it as Possibly,Likely 5-B instead? I believe using Possibly,Likely reflects that it is based on a statement rather than a shown action.
 
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LadyVeldanava said:
I have removed the light speed stats as suggested. Regarding the destructive capability, since there are no direct feats shown yet but another character explicitly stated that he can destroy the world, would it be acceptable to list it as Possibly 5-B instead? I believe using Possibly reflects that it is based on a statement rather than a shown action.
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For statements such as these, we typically default to surface wiping instead (specially for this case where they go on to suggest this will wipe humanity), which is High 6-A if it will be achieved via explosion.

Worst case scenario, slap a "At least [previous tier], possibly far higher ([destroy the world scans])" and call it a day
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
For statements such as these, we typically default to surface wiping instead (specially for this case where they go on to suggest this will wipe humanity), which is High 6-A if it will be achieved via explosion.

Worst case scenario, slap a "At least [previous tier], possibly far higher ([destroy the world scans])" and call it a day
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At least Large Island level Possibly far higher (Lloyd magic could destroy the whole world... and all of humanity with it! , His innocent curiosity is about to destroy this whole world!) ??
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I think 5-B (or at least High 6-A) is fine since the visual literally shows Lloyd having the world within his grasp. That implies levels far beyond High 6-C and leads credence to the idea of him actually being a surface wiper bare minimum.
 
Kachon123 said:
I think 5-B (or at least High 6-A) is fine since the visual literally shows Lloyd having the world within his grasp. That implies levels far beyond High 6-C and leads credence to the idea of him actually being a surface wiper bare minimum.
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Yeah, but keep in mind, the High 6-A end is strictly for explosions. Which is why I also offered the absolute least of "far higher".

Edit: Although, planetary range should be uncontroversial based on that same scan, yeah.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Yeah, but keep in mind, the High 6-A end is strictly for explosions. Which is why I also offered the absolute least of "far higher".
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That's true. In that case, I still much prefer 5-B with a possibly/likely rating attached than the "far higher" option.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Yeah, but keep in mind, the High 6-A end is strictly for explosions. Which is why I also offered the absolute least of "far higher".

Edit: Although, planetary range should be uncontroversial based on that same scan, yeah.
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So, it's settled on 'High 6-A, possibly far higher', right?

For the Range, how should I phrase the explanation?
 
LadyVeldanava said:
So, it's settled on 'High 6-A, possibly far higher', right?
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If @Celestial_Pegasus prefers that or just plain "Possibly 5-B", I'm honestly fine with either.

LadyVeldanava said:
So, it's settled on 'High 6-A, possibly far higher', right?

For the Range, how should I phrase the explanation?
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"Planetary with Magic (Stated capable of destroying the world (scan with the twisting skies), can punch through the atmosphere (scan)"

Something like that.
 
LadyVeldanava said:
To ensure a smooth conclusion, I’ve provided these options for the final rating. Which one do everyone think is the most appropriate?

Option 1: Possibly 5-B

Option 2: At least High 6-A, possibly far higher

Option 3: At least High 6-A, possibly 5-B

Option 4: 5-B
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Celestial_Pegasus said:
Option 3 works imo.
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Thank you very much. Since I’m new here and still learning the process, I was wondering how many staff members need to agree before the thread can be closed? Also, what is the proper way to close it once we’ve reached a conclusion?
 
LadyVeldanava said:
Thank you very much. Since I’m new here and still learning the process, I was wondering how many staff members need to agree before the thread can be closed? Also, what is the proper way to close it once we’ve reached a conclusion?
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It can be applied with us two. There's nothing too controversial in the rework to warrant more than 2 ayy
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
It can be applied with us two. There's nothing too controversial in the rework to warrant more than 2 ayy
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In that case, we can close the thread now. But to close this thread, where do I need to notify? Should I update the profile myself, or will a staff member handle the edits?
 
Aside from the light-speed being removed and Tier High 6-A being added, what other changes were made? So I can fix them in my blog and update it tomorrow.
 
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